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Q
5th January 2014, 21:24
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Source (http://www.upinspire.com/inspire/555/this-3rd-grader-shocked-everyo).

And I was thinking I was eating healthy with my salad diet... :rolleyes:

Brutus
5th January 2014, 22:43
Well... Fuck.

Q
5th January 2014, 23:13
Well... Fuck.
I know right!

I'm kinda wondering how to setup a vegetable garden right now :lol:
Problem is: My garden has full sun and no shadow. So that kinda destroys plants :(

I suppose I'll buy more from bio-shops.

Sperm-Doll Setsuna
5th January 2014, 23:34
I suppose I'll buy more from bio-shops.

Yeah, feed that idiotic organic-food quackery hipster market with your money, keep that idiotic shitfest expanding like never before.

BIXX
5th January 2014, 23:44
Well shit.


Yeah, feed that idiotic organic-food quackery hipster market with your money, keep that idiotic shitfest expanding like never before.


Well, I fail to see why wanting to eat healthy should be looked down upon. What's your alternative? Feed that asshole McFood industry with your money? Either way you're fucked. I say if someone wants to buy organic, let them, if they want to buy non-organic, let them. Is it really worth your time to be a dick about it?

Q
5th January 2014, 23:49
Yeah, feed that idiotic organic-food quackery hipster market with your money, keep that idiotic shitfest expanding like never before.
My my, aren't you the responsible mod everyone should look up to.

But yeah, what are you suggesting precisely?

The Jay
6th January 2014, 00:02
The Agricultural Industry uses many such chemicals on all foods. Think of how they keep your salads from being wilted after transport by truck and storage at the store.

Ritzy Cat
6th January 2014, 00:28
This is only a result of industry because they have to pump all these chemicals and pesticides into crops so they can make the most money... It's all about profit, not about the actual quality of the food.

Of course, if we just remove the motive that causes them to try to grow as much horse shit as possible...

Frankly, I wouldn't be surprised if the life expectancy in, er, "developed" countries starts to go down with this type of thing.

Os Cangaceiros
6th January 2014, 01:08
Just because something is "organic" doesn't necessarily mean it's good for you (for the purposes of simplicity, "organic" means that it's been certified organic by the USDA). Similarly, just because something is "inorganic" doesn't mean it's bad for you. The USDA doesn't give wild-caught salmon the organic label because there's no way of telling exactly what an individual salmon has consumed, but salmon is a very nutrient-dense meat, full of EFA's and healthy protein.

Furthermore, I don't think that simply because something has been chemically-altered that it's necessarily bad for you. It reminds me of something someone posted on Facebook recently about how bottled water has potassium hydrochloride in it, something that's also used in lethal injections, which kind of ignores details like the concentration of dose, etc.

RedWaves
6th January 2014, 01:25
The Agricultural Industry uses many such chemicals on all foods. Think of how they keep your salads from being wilted after transport by truck and storage at the store.


There's a reason they put High Fructose Corn Syrup and several other chemicals in so much stuff. It's about the cheapest supply you can get, cause if those big corporations were to lose just even a dollar, you know it's the end of the world. The way America is set up, they don't give a fuck if people die or become obese from eating this shit. They rather the corporations do whatever they want.

Q
6th January 2014, 01:41
(for the purposes of simplicity, "organic" means that it's been certified organic by the USDA).
As a European, this means nothing to me. Here "organic" is used to mean: "Grown as naturally as possible, without the use of chemical pesticides or artificial fertilisers". Maybe the USDA follows a similar definition, I don't know and, frankly, don't really care.

Yes, there is a thing or two to say about doses and if there are some good sources on that, I'm all ears. I also wonder how such chemicals tend to build up over time in human bodies and, thus, become problematic over time. In any case, a potato not rooting because it is drained by a chemical is raising some serious red flags for me.

Os Cangaceiros
6th January 2014, 04:00
*shrug* I'm an American so that's the experience I can speak from. Most people buy their food from the supermarkets where I live and if they care about this shit, they'll look for the USDA Certified Organic label.

Os Cangaceiros
6th January 2014, 04:25
Although I too like food that's grown with minimal interference, that's hard to accomplish up north though, not much arable land. You can grow certain things like salad greens, though, spinach, etc, that's usually what I eat during the summer months, along with salmon. Generally I'm not terribly concerned with GMO's and that sort of thing, though, outside of the obvious fact that agribusiness is controlled by scum, etc etc blah blah blah

bcbm
6th January 2014, 04:40
i just eat what i feel like or think might be the best. seriously more worried about a million things that will hurt me before i worry about kraft mac and cheese or whatever

Art Vandelay
6th January 2014, 05:09
i just eat what i feel like or think might be the best. seriously more worried about a million things that will hurt me before i worry about kraft mac and cheese or whatever

Same with me, even as a vegetarian, I still assume that the vast majority of things I've ate have been sprayed with some sort of chemical. Truth be told, I probably wouldn't understand what exactly its effects were, even if it was explained to me. Especially as a smoker, I really don't care, cause I'm not going to be like: "oh nooooo, that vegetable had pesticides or whatever chemical sprayed on it, so now I can't eat it, lets eat something healthy.....hey wanny go for a smoke, since we just ate and cigs are best after meals and contain chemicals that if you dump in a landfill, its considered an environmental crime?"

F9
6th January 2014, 09:16
Its a conspiracyyy!!:grin: The fact that they dont grow bad as fast, is not that bad actually if you are asking me...

Tim Cornelis
6th January 2014, 09:30
This just proves that the chemicals used work, not that they are bad for your health.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Appeal_to_nature

Flying Purple People Eater
6th January 2014, 13:14
Why are people cracking down on eating healthy foods? Healthy diets and fitness are basically the only wonder-drugs in existence besides beetroot. Everything about you improves from excercise and fitness, from your mood to your stamina to your mind.


I'm not calling for people who are overweight to be abused for it (in fact, I think acts like that are ridiculously barbaric), so please don't caricaturise me as such. That said, I do think that people who actually make a conscious decision to damage their own bodily health out of what amounts to spite are pretty stupid.



This just proves that the chemicals used work, not that they are bad for your health.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Appeal_to_nature

What are you on about? The child in the video clearly stated the toxic nature of the chemicals and the complete saturation of supermarket vegetables with it. There is no 'appeal to nature' going on here, unless you wish to argue that complaining about toxic chemicals in supermarket produce is somehow equivalent to woodstock parades.

Tenka
6th January 2014, 15:43
http://pmep.cce.cornell.edu/profiles/extoxnet/carbaryl-dicrotophos/chlorpropham-ext.html This might be helpful to the discussion. Frankly, I'm more worried about pathogenic microbes than some chems used by dirty cappies to make their dirty food keep longer so they can make a bigger dirty profit. (And according to the wikipedia article, this chemical is also used in Germany, Austria and Switzerland, though this needs citation.)

Quail
6th January 2014, 16:07
I buy organic food if it looks good, but generally I go for whichever veg looks nicest (and relatively cheap, though not buying animal products means I can afford to spend more on veg). I should probably wash stuff before I eat it though, but I am lazy.

Tim Cornelis
6th January 2014, 16:15
Why are people cracking down on eating healthy foods? Healthy diets and fitness are basically the only wonder-drugs in existence besides beetroot. Everything about you improves from excercise and fitness, from your mood to your stamina to your mind.

I'm not calling for people who are overweight to be abused for it (in fact, I think acts like that are ridiculously barbaric), so please don't caricaturise me as such. That said, I do think that people who actually make a conscious decision to damage their own bodily health out of what amounts to spite are pretty stupid.

What are you on about? The child in the video clearly stated the toxic nature of the chemicals and the complete saturation of supermarket vegetables with it. There is no 'appeal to nature' going on here, unless you wish to argue that complaining about toxic chemicals in supermarket produce is somehow equivalent to woodstock parades.

What are you on about? Apparently Chlorpropham is classified as non-toxic and causes no damage to humans in the doses used on potatoes. It's a chemical, that doesn't make it toxic, nor does the misinformed claim that they are responsible for the high rates of cancer make it so. Incidentally, sprouts are toxic so I'd rather eat the Bud Nip sprayed potato thank you very much.

Ethics Gradient, Traitor For All Ages
6th January 2014, 17:15
My partner is way into buying from the locals where she can and wasting a shitload of money at wholefoods for stuff she cant find locally. I roll my eyes at it but whatever, it not something to get angry about. The capitalists are going to get your money one way or the other. The only organic stuff I'll go out of my way to buy is chicken, and only because I can actually taste a difference. The normal super market chicken has a really gross aftertaste to it that organic chicken doesn't.

Sea
6th January 2014, 17:52
There's a reason they put High Fructose Corn Syrup and several other chemicals in so much stuff. It's about the cheapest supply you can get, cause if those big corporations were to lose just even a dollar, you know it's the end of the world. The way America is set up, they don't give a fuck if people die or become obese from eating this shit. They rather the corporations do whatever they want.
Tell me more about these chemicals that are just now showing up in our food.

Seriously, I hate it when people rat on about "chemicals" in food as if every fucking thing you eat isn't made of chemicals (and the occasional raw atom or two). Really what you're doing is only labeling some of the chemicals as chemicals and using that for fear-mongering of the uninformed.

Oh, and FYI, high fructose corn syrup is not a chemical. It's several chemicals. Just like vinegar, vodka, olive oil and regular sugar. That's not to say that HFCS isn't unhealthy. It is. But cut out the uninformed "oh no, chemicals!" nonsense.

ÑóẊîöʼn
7th January 2014, 06:07
My understanding was that HFCS was bad for you for pretty much the same reason "normal" cane sugar is bad for you. It's high in calories but low in actual nutrition.