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The Idler
3rd January 2014, 18:58
Right, anyone interested in starting a wiki? Revleft one died off.

Sperm-Doll Setsuna
3rd January 2014, 19:35
What would be the point? And what would be the angle? Reformism, SPGB arsehattery?

Remus Bleys
3rd January 2014, 19:37
What would be the point? And what would be the angle? Reformism, SPGB arsehattery?
How about Hoxhaism? A weird spin-off of trotskyism? Anarcho-liberalism?

Tim Cornelis
3rd January 2014, 19:44
What about revleft drama. All purges, users, conflicts carefully documented.

If there is to be any sort of wiki with serious content, it needs coherent ideology like conservapedia, metapedia, and that liberal rational one -- which revleft hasn't.

Bostana
3rd January 2014, 19:46
What would be the point? We already have a trust worthy wiki:
http://www.conservapedia.com/Main_Page

Fucking love that wiki

Brotto Rühle
3rd January 2014, 19:51
Let's make a wiki where the Balkanized Maoists write about Trotsky, the Kauts write about Left Communism, the Ultra-Lefts write about Stalinism (Though, it'd likely be the most accurate of all the ones I list), and the impossibilists write about Lenin.

Sabot Cat
3rd January 2014, 20:51
Or we could, you know, aim for a spirit of collaboration by presenting a wide array of the relevant revolutionary leftist sides of an issue, thinker or ideology through a team with diverse view points that are nonetheless unified by a common goal for the liberation of the proletariat. I think it would be worthwhile to make a secondary source for learning when Marxists.org is largely a database of primary sources.

Remus Bleys
3rd January 2014, 20:58
Or we could, you know, aim for a spirit of collaboration by presenting a wide array of the relevant revolutionary leftist sides of an issue, thinker or ideology through a team with diverse view points that are nonetheless unified by a common goal for the liberation of the proletariat. I think it would be worthwhile to make a secondary source for learning when Marxists.org is largely a database of primary sources.
see thats not true. Other ideologies may think they aim for the liberation of the proletariat but that's not true. Not everything is the correct course of action. Left Unity doesn't work.

And a wiki run by revleft that wouldn't turn into a sectarian shitstorm?

Taters
3rd January 2014, 21:00
see thats not true. Other ideologies may think they aim for the liberation of the proletariat but that's not true. Not everything is the correct course of action. Left Unity doesn't work.

And a wiki run by revleft that wouldn't turn into a sectarian shitstorm?

I think we could be mature and objective enough to make it work *straight face*

Remus Bleys
3rd January 2014, 21:04
I actually kinda do want a revleft wikia though

Tim Cornelis
3rd January 2014, 21:36
I'd so make a pravda-rhetorical wikipedia page about myself.

EDIT:

Despite my hostility toward Marxism-Leninism I can be objective in its description. However, I do not trust other users and I anticipate having to reverse secterian edits constantly.

Ceallach_the_Witch
3rd January 2014, 21:58
When you look into the revleft wiki, the revleft wiki also looks into you

The Idler
3rd January 2014, 22:47
How about one like Wikipedia but without the notability requirement of Wikipedia - similar to Wikinfo?

Sabot Cat
4th January 2014, 05:38
If someone had the technical know-how, it would be interesting if people could contribute essays on the same subject, and then have those essays on a particular subject compete for upvotes. Say five people write about Karl Marx in general with slightly different or widely divergent takes on him and his work; you could type in "Karl Marx" to the wiki searchbox, and then you can be directed to a page with five essays in the order according to how registered users of the site voted. Kind of like Everything2 meets Urban Dictionary meets RevLeft, and it would neatly sidestep the worst of sectarian conflict.

Tim Cornelis
4th January 2014, 21:24
How about one like Wikipedia but without the notability requirement of Wikipedia - similar to Wikinfo?

What's wikinfo exactly and how would your wiki differ?


If someone had the technical know-how, it would be interesting if people could contribute essays on the same subject, and then have those essays on a particular subject compete for upvotes. Say five people write about Karl Marx in general with slightly different or widely divergent takes on him and his work; you could type in "Karl Marx" to the wiki searchbox, and then you can be directed to a page with five essays in the order according to how registered users of the site voted. Kind of like Everything2 meets Urban Dictionary meets RevLeft, and it would neatly sidestep the worst of sectarian conflict.

That's very easily done, except for the voting.

The Idler
4th January 2014, 21:47
wikinfo is an experiment where wikipedia's notability requirement did not apply. it could be done for the left, but it wouldn't be my wiki.

Sea
5th January 2014, 01:55
wikinfo is an experiment where wikipedia's notability requirement did not apply. it could be done for the left, but it wouldn't be my wiki.
And what makes you think that we thought it would be yours?
How about Hoxhaism? A weird spin-off of trotskyism? Anarcho-liberalism?Or we could create something new. Protracted People's Permanent Revolution in One Country.

Remus Bleys
5th January 2014, 19:38
And what makes you think that we thought it would be yours?Or we could create something new. Protracted People's Permanent Revolution in One Country.
I thought this could've been a real thing until I read "in One Country" lol

Queen Mab
6th January 2014, 17:49
Left wing of capital
From Revleftpedia, the red encyclopedia
(Redirected from Trotskyism)

And so on

The Idler
7th January 2014, 20:07
What's wikinfo exactly and how would your wiki differ?


And what makes you think that we thought it would be yours?
Tim's comment above.

Niccolo
7th January 2014, 20:18
If someone had the technical know-how, it would be interesting if people could contribute essays on the same subject, and then have those essays on a particular subject compete for upvotes. Say five people write about Karl Marx in general with slightly different or widely divergent takes on him and his work; you could type in "Karl Marx" to the wiki searchbox, and then you can be directed to a page with five essays in the order according to how registered users of the site voted. Kind of like Everything2 meets Urban Dictionary meets RevLeft, and it would neatly sidestep the worst of sectarian conflict.

I like this idea but what I've seen from the sectarian-divide common on this site, it would most likely devolve into something not-so-pleasant, and the entire idea would crumble into a giant reputation blow for Revleft.

reb
7th January 2014, 20:21
You think that revleft has a great reputation as it is?

Niccolo
7th January 2014, 20:25
You think that revleft has a great reputation as it is?

I wouldn't say a good reputation, but what else can you expect? It's an internet forum, it has its limits and such an open platform isn't gonna be harbouring some post-doctoral research-quality analysis, is it? There are a number of informative and interesting threads though, and it's a site worth coming back to for that reason.

Philosophos
7th January 2014, 20:26
What about revleft drama. All purges, users, conflicts carefully documented.


Count me in if you make something like that. We can also make a movie out of it. DIBS ON THE COPYRIGHTS!

The Idler
8th January 2014, 11:20
Wikinfo asked that articles be written from a sympathetic point of view but also encouraged articles entitled 'Criticism of ...' for an opposing point of view.


The main difference between the two sites is that Wikinfo does not follow Wikipedia's neutral point of view policy. Instead articles are written from a sympathetic point of view which contain links to articles written on the same subject but from a different point of view. For example the article on Wikinfo contains a link at the top to Critical views of Wikinfo.

Communist-USSR
10th January 2014, 20:49
See:
en.communpedia.org/Communpedia,_the_communist_encyclopedia