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Lenina Rosenweg
30th December 2013, 01:07
An idea I've been thinking about for a while. People may laugh, this may be shot down, but here goes.

Everything I've been reading indicates that if the current rae of CO2 emissions isn't dramatically reduced within the next fifteen years the planet is on track to heat up well over 2 degrees celsius within the next few decades.



In order to stay below a 2 degree increase, scientists have estimated that humans can pour roughly 565 more gigatons of carbon dioxide into the atmosphere. At present emission rates, (31 gigatons globally in 2011 and rising) 565 gigatons will be reached by 2028.[33]
Fossil-fuel companies currently have about 2,795 gigatons of carbon already contained in their proven coal and oil and gas reserves, and is the amount of fossil fuels they are currently planning to burn. 2,795 gigatons is five times higher than the limit of 565 gigatons that would keep Earth under a global temperature increase of 2 degrees Celsius.


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/350.org

Also there is something like 13 trillion $ of proven oil reserves underground. Oil companies are drawing equity on this.We can't transition out of a petroleum based economy under capitalism.Climate change can't be stopped under capitalism.In a nutshell we can expect catastrophe by 2050, if not earlier.

So...realistically we are screwed.I fully understand socialists don't like the idea of colonization-that was a debate in the early US SP under Eugene Debs I also know thew arguements against utopian socialism, small scale utopian settlements, etc.

But...this may sound science fictiony but..should we start thinking about the creation of some sort of socialist society in northern Canada? Perhaps a mass immigration of people from the Global South-Bangladesh, etc, places to be initially affected?After several generations the rest of the world could be recolonized.

Ok, crazy idea..

bcbm
30th December 2013, 04:52
this would take a lot of money and resources, to say nothing about the legal issues, that there really just is not anywhere close to enough of for sure an undertaking. i think we need to be undertaking some serious long term strategizing about how to weather the changes that are to come (those who are are not doing so from a humanitarian standpoint...) but i don't really see that happening before it is much too late.