The Pervert’s Guide to Ideology

[blake 3:17]

Just saw it tonight -- really great. Some very funny and incredibly interesting observations on a wide range of movies and some non-cinematic elements of visual culture. It starts with They Live, moves through a whole lot of stuff and skewers Titanic savagely.

http://www.thepervertsguide.com/ideology/about.html

This is the best short review I could find: http://www.slantmagazine.com/film/review/the-perverts-guide-to-ideology

[tuwix]

Indeed. Even Žižek don't use word communism to describe state capitalism very often which the most upsetting of him to me.

An here is the movie online:
https://freevideo.me/movies/7592611-the-perverts-guide-to-ideology-2012.html

Nonetheless "They live" that opens "The Pervert's Guide to Ideology" I find better.

[The Garbage Disposal Unit]

Thanks for posting - stoked to watch this. It's 3:30AM but I'm tempted to call my best philosophy-nerd buddy anyway. "Hey Ian, what are you doing on boxing day?"

[blake 3:17]

It's a lot of fun for some of us. I'd be very interested in what others have to say. There weren't many people in the theatre but there were a few other people laughing or clapping at the same parts I was.

Probably a good idea to watch it with others who are sympathetic or seriously engaged.

Edited to add: Or who don't give a shit.

[L.A.P.]

I wasn't too impressed by it. Literally everything he said were just rehashed tropes of earlier lectures, writings, etc. I get the impression he's trying to be more accessible and this is supposed to be some introduction to a 'theory of ideology', but I felt like it didn't flow nearly as well as The Pervert's Guide to Cinema, like it was slapped together.

His best lecture film will always be The Reality of the Virtual

[tachankawrangler]

Well to a devoted Zizist such as myself (despite being an an-com) often times it does seem as if he repeats certain anecdotes and points over and over- however, you have to take into account the fact that as a public intellectual he has to say the same thing, or a similar thing or idea, to many different audiences and intellectual groups all over the world, so he won't have a fresh story or joke for each encounter. Though he does have a sense of humor (something which is, of course, remarkable for such an intellectual,) he is not a stand-up comedian. For a man of his intellect he made the film very accessible without sacrificing the main points.

[blake 3:17]

He's an anti-stand up. It's amazing how many times he scratches his nose -- that's the 'perversion' edited out of films and novels.

The stuff on West Side Story and Jaws was amazing.

[will try to shut up]:wub:

[Tenka]

I liked it a lot. I don't care if he repeats himself. (I watched the guide to cinema, too)

[L.A.P.]

yeah, it was still cool

i thought Judith Butler's use of Zizek's Jaws talking point to highlight a fundamental criticism she holds in regard to Zizek was more interesting than the talking point itself though

[The Garbage Disposal Unit]

yeah, it was still cool

i thought Judith Butler's use of Zizek's Jaws talking point to highlight a fundamental criticism she holds in regard to Zizek was more interesting than the talking point itself though

WHERE?

I'd actually be really stoked to read/see that.

[KurtFF8]

I enjoyed this film a bit more than the first one (Pervert's Guide to Cinema) but politically I had some issues with it. For example, throughout the film he finds himself talking about the problems of Stalinism and how we need to undermine it, while later praising aspects of Nazi films and how Ramstien is able to redeem certain aesthetics of Nazi rallies. I feel that this was either Zizek thinking he was being groundbreaking or that he was just trolling the Left by essentially looking to Nazi art for inspiration while attacking the Stalin period in the USSR.

On top of that, he continues his strange dialogue with Christianity in the film which just doesn't seem to me to do him any good in terms of developing his own points. Perhaps he's just trying to be original here but isn't doing a good job still.

I began working on a review of it for the Left Film review after I saw it here but haven't finished it yet, perhaps it's time I do that.

[reb]

It just made me want to watch They Live.

[Ethics Gradient, Traitor For All Ages]

I enjoyed this film a bit more than the first one (Pervert's Guide to Cinema) but politically I had some issues with it. For example, throughout the film he finds himself talking about the problems of Stalinism and how we need to undermine it, while later praising aspects of Nazi films and how Ramstien is able to redeem certain aesthetics of Nazi rallies. I feel that this was either Zizek thinking he was being groundbreaking or that he was just trolling the Left by essentially looking to Nazi art for inspiration while attacking the Stalin period in the USSR.

On top of that, he continues his strange dialogue with Christianity in the film which just doesn't seem to me to do him any good in terms of developing his own points. Perhaps he's just trying to be original here but isn't doing a good job still.

I began working on a review of it for the Left Film review after I saw it here but haven't finished it yet, perhaps it's time I do that.

There is an over-arching theme in a lot of his work regarding the need for the modern left to re-appropriate certain ideas, that as a result of the way history played out, have been confined to the idea Stalinism by the left. Duty, sacrifice, etc. Not that I agree with it.

[bcbm]

i watched part of it and enjoyed the part i saw. will finish it tonight or tomorrow maybe

[L.A.P.]

WHERE?

I'd actually be really stoked to read/see that.

Man, I'm so bad at responding to posts in a timely manner. It wasn't that long and substantial of a point, just so I don't get you too excited only to be disappointed, but it was interesting nonetheless and lead to some other interesting points. It's from Contingency, Hegemony, Universality where Ernesto Laclau, Judith Butler, and Slavoj Zizek argue with each other, I'll get around to quoting it soon. I love it when Butler challenges Zizek because it brings out the best in him.

[PC LOAD LETTER]

He's an anti-stand up. It's amazing how many times he scratches his nose -- that's the 'perversion' edited out of films and novels.

The stuff on West Side Story and Jaws was amazing.

[will try to shut up]:wub:
Either a nervous tic or cocaine


But, anyways, not to just make a one-line post, and not intentionally threadjacking, but ... I clicked this thread because I saw something about this in the Guardian (Pervert's Guide) but didn't read the article. I've been meaning to pick up a Zizek book or two so I can familiarize myself with him. Should I just go for The Sublime Object of Ideology?

[bcbm]

i am really deeply saddened that the footage from 'the fall of berlin' of stalin giving love advice to the young worker has been lost.:(

[Ethics Gradient, Traitor For All Ages]

i am really deeply saddened that the footage from 'the fall of berlin' of stalin giving love advice to the young worker has been lost.:(

I thought the entire segment for that movie was fantastic, definitely my favorite part. I wish he would do one of these using only soviet films.

[bill]

It was OK (7/10), but I liked its creepy Lacanian prequel better (9/10).