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sanpal
23rd December 2013, 19:50
I didn't find in today's revleft's posts anything about Kalashnikov (author of AK-47) who has died today in the age 94 years. So I make this post. He was communist through his life even in last 20 years of capitalist Russia and he was communist till end minute
(excuse my bad English)

Brotto Rühle
23rd December 2013, 20:36
He was a capitalist, and I don't care that he's dead.

Vladimir Innit Lenin
23rd December 2013, 20:51
from a family of wealthy peasants (i.e. nobility!), he used his talents to create a weapon of death, albeit one that many revolutionaries have used effectively over the years.

I don't really give a shit, tbh.

Ele'ill
23rd December 2013, 20:53
they're fun to shoot

Vladimir Innit Lenin
23rd December 2013, 20:58
they're fun to shoot

wealthy peasants?

Sinister Intents
23rd December 2013, 21:15
He was a capitalist, and I don't care that he's dead.

Indeed, fuck Kalashnikov!

Art Vandelay
23rd December 2013, 21:24
He was a capitalist? Did he receive royalties on AK's sold or something? But yeah not overly concerned with his passing, but he did invent the greatest assault rifle ever made.

Ele'ill
23rd December 2013, 21:38
cp5gdUHFGIQ

Brotto Rühle
23rd December 2013, 23:18
He was a capitalist? Did he receive royalties on AK's sold or something? But yeah not overly concerned with his passing, but he did invent the greatest assault rifle ever made.

As in he wasn't a Marxist...as in...he was a person who believed in capitalism. Smartass.

Tim Cornelis
24th December 2013, 01:34
As in he wasn't a Marxist...as in...he was a person who believed in capitalism. Smartass.

Politics is not what defined him though, so it's a bit oddly specific to bring up.

Brotto Rühle
24th December 2013, 02:26
Politics is not what defined him though, so it's a bit oddly specific to bring up.

I'm not sure why I, or any Marxist, should feel anything for the guy. That's my point. It's not as if he was this heroic Marxist who invented a weapon of the proletariat worldwide!!!

Prometeo liberado
24th December 2013, 03:32
I for one was a huge fan of his. Without Mr. kalashinikov and his silly invention we wouldn't have this gem.

AK-47. The very best there is. When you absolutely, positively got to kill every motherfucker in the room, accept no substituteshttp://ts1.mm.bing.net/th?id=H.4812400383034328&w=334&h=175&c=7&rs=1&pid=1.7

motion denied
24th December 2013, 15:51
Counter Strike would not be the same without the man.

Art Vandelay
24th December 2013, 19:43
As in he wasn't a Marxist...as in...he was a person who believed in capitalism. Smartass.

I honestly wasn't trying to be a 'smartass,' I was genuinely confused. You're right in saying I don't know why any Marxist should feel anything for the guy.

crazyirish93
24th December 2013, 21:12
from a family of wealthy peasants (i.e. nobility!), he used his talents to create a weapon of death, albeit one that many revolutionaries have used effectively over the years.

I don't really give a shit, tbh.
Don't know much about the man but who cares if he was born into a wealthy peasant family or nobility or whatever do we judge people on their family backgrounds now ?

BIXX
24th December 2013, 21:14
I'm not sure why I, or any Marxist, should feel anything for the guy. That's my point. It's not as if he was this heroic Marxist who invented a weapon of the proletariat worldwide!!!


I don't care for his death so much, but saying someone believed in capitalism is rather vague, as most people do.

Dagoth Ur
24th December 2013, 21:46
Revleft uses the death of an old soviet man to score ultra-leftist points. Nothing new to see here.

Brotto Rühle
24th December 2013, 22:38
Revleft uses the death of an old soviet man to score ultra-leftist points. Nothing new to see here.

He was probably a shitty old man too. Thanks for the "ultra-left" points guise. How are the soviet nostalgia points coming for the rest of you?

sanpal
29th December 2013, 22:26
As in he wasn't a Marxist....

Who is a Marxist? You are a Marxist? Hehe Not more than Kalashnikov


...he was a person who believed in capitalism.

Strange logic. Thus all communists being members of CPSU or CPRF believed in capitalism? So, and my father who became a communist while the Great Patriotic War? And my grandmother who was a communist through her life from the October Revolution in Russia? And Yuri Gagarin and Valentina Tereshkova - soviet cosmonauts? And russian scientist Zhores Alferov, Nobel winner, now is the member of CPRF as Tereshkova is, ?
And what? I have to believe that they all are pro-capitalist? What a bullshit. The fact that my theoretical view contradicts to them all (I suppose them as stalinist) doesn't give me the reason to consider them as procapitalist.

Kalashnikov was fighting in the Great Patriotic War and after he was wounded became a designer of the weapon. His words were:
he designed this weapon for protection soviet motherland, not for sale the weapon abroad.
You know the fact, what the USA developed the plan of attack for the USSR (nuclear bombing) at the beginning of the 50th?
The weapon will be necessary for any revolution because naively to believe that the whole world becomes at once socialist.
He didn't change his views, when living in capitalist Russia and remained the communist till his death

BIXX
30th December 2013, 00:14
Who is a Marxist? You are a Marxist? Hehe Not more than Kalashnikov







Strange logic. Thus all communists being members of CPSU or CPRF believed in capitalism? So, and my father who became a communist while the Great Patriotic War? And my grandmother who was a communist through her life from the October Revolution in Russia? And Yuri Gagarin and Valentina Tereshkova - soviet cosmonauts? And russian scientist Zhores Alferov, Nobel winner, now is the member of CPRF as Tereshkova is, ?

And what? I have to believe that they all are pro-capitalist? What a bullshit. The fact that my theoretical view contradicts to them all (I suppose them as stalinist) doesn't give me the reason to consider them as procapitalist.



Kalashnikov was fighting in the Great Patriotic War and after he was wounded became a designer of the weapon. His words were:

he designed this weapon for protection soviet motherland, not for sale the weapon abroad.

You know the fact, what the USA developed the plan of attack for the USSR (nuclear bombing) at the beginning of the 50th?

The weapon will be necessary for any revolution because naively to believe that the whole world becomes at once socialist.

He didn't change his views, when living in capitalist Russia and remained the communist till his death


I have no idea if any of this is true, but if so, rad. I'll prolly forget to fact check though.

Brutus
30th December 2013, 00:44
I'm pretty sure the CPRF are nationalistic, homophobic, "Stalin made Russia great" type guys, so are communists in name only.