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JudasMaiden
21st December 2013, 19:44
1. How would amusement parks work under Communism/Anarchism?
2. Who would build the rides?
3. Who would inspect the amusement park for safety measures?
I'm sorry if you think they are the same question, but what do you think how Communism and/or Anarchism deal with amusement parks such as Disneyland, Legoland, Universal Studios, etc.
Edit 1: I forgot to add another question because I was sleepy at the time I typed this and I fell asleep for 3 hours after typing this. The more I think about Anarchism right now, most Anarchists want to abolish the State, Class system, and Currencies, in which also Communism advocates for.
Sinister Intents
21st December 2013, 22:50
Well an amusement park would probably work the same under communism as anarchism, this is because they seek the same end result, a stateless, classless, moneyless society. The workers in the amusement park would work under free association, and everything at the park would be free to do. The whole amusement park will belong to all of the people.
edit: I don't know a whole lot about amusement parks, I'm sure someone will better answer your questions.
reb
21st December 2013, 23:18
You go to an amusement park, ride the roller-coaster, eat candy floss and go home. Unless you're a balkanized maoist which means that if Hoxha, that dreamy hunk, the maker of proletarian revolutions for basement dwellers the nation over, banned them then you're out of luck.
You're thinking about communism and anarchism the wrong way. You're seeing them as states to be constructed, ideas to be put into motion. Communism is the movement to abolish capitalism that grows out of capitalism. Anarchists, though, also fall into this failing as do a lot of other pseudo-communist tendencies such as stalinism with it's rhetoric of this made up thing called "socialism" being a stage before communism.
And you only asked two questions.
Alexios
21st December 2013, 23:23
This is a very important question that I think we should have an international congress on. I know I would not fight for communism if it meant I can't go to Disney World anymore.
Sinister Intents
21st December 2013, 23:33
And you only asked two questions.
I'm sorry if you think they are the same question, but what do you think how Communism and/or Anarchism deal with amusement parks such as Disneyland, Legoland, Universal Studios, etc.
I think this was meant to be the third question.
spiritof56
21st December 2013, 23:41
Amusement parks are products of bourgeois decadence and should be burned to the ground.
Sasha
22nd December 2013, 00:14
Mickey will be shot but Stalin mustach rides will be free...
But seriously, what reb and sinister intents said.
Bala Perdida
22nd December 2013, 00:31
Based on my experience, working in one, things like food should definitely be switched over to automated machines. The over priced food and merchandise will be free, due to the abolition of money. Park games will either all be electronic or handed over to volunteers, as will ride maintenance and operation. Admission will be free so there will be no walls. Likewise if the park has long lines and such, then it's better to stay out unless you like lines. So, if technology takes off, then it will be more technologically run and volunteer run. Souvenirs will probably be more boring though as a result, most souvenirs only exist to absolutely squeeze out as much of a profit as they can from the guests. The food they make is similar, and could all be made by machine today.
Slavic
22nd December 2013, 18:57
Amusement parks are products of bourgeois decadence and should be burned to the ground.
Burn me at the stake then because I'm a thrill seeking decadent bourgeois.
I don't see how the amusement park would be run any different than other service industries in a free distribution socialist society. There would be workers to operate the rides, and those to manage any food stalls. With regards to the question of safety, it would be up to the amusement park workers to determine the safety of the rides.
Mind you, I'd hope that basic food production, housing, and medical care are properly developed and distributed in a post-capital society before a conversation of amusement parks even begins.
Comrade Jacob
22nd December 2013, 19:07
1. How would amusement parks work under Communism/Anarchism?
2. Who would build the rides?
3. Who would inspect the amusement park for safety measures?
I'm sorry if you think they are the same question, but what do you think how Communism and/or Anarchism deal with amusement parks such as Disneyland, Legoland, Universal Studios, etc.
Edit 1: I forgot to add another question because I was sleepy at the time I typed this and I fell asleep for 3 hours after typing this. The more I think about Anarchism right now, most Anarchists want to abolish the State, Class system, and Currencies, in which also Communism advocates for.
1.) I don't think physics will change in communism
2.) People who can and want to
3.) People there and who's role is to
Sabot Cat
22nd December 2013, 19:10
Communism is not asceticism. In all likelihood, there will be amusement parks and the real difference in their operation will be that more people can enjoy them.
L.A.P.
22nd December 2013, 19:35
^ and maybe actually be fun
L.A.P.
22nd December 2013, 23:00
there's this one local mini amusement park/arcade that I've had a burning desire to destroy since I was 7. never even had some bad experience there or anything, I just hate the place and want it wiped off the Earth.
Brandon's Impotent Rage
23rd December 2013, 00:52
Personally, I think Amusement Parks will not only be more fun, but they'll have a chance to be works of art as well.
I've mentioned before about my love of Walt Disney (yeah, I know). That stretches also to Walt Disney World in Orlando. The whole park is designed by Imagineers who work for the Disney corporation.....yet in spite of never getting any real name recognition, and being restrained by the Disney brand, they are VERY passionate about their jobs, and it shows.
I'd think that, in communism, those same people would make these attractions voluntarily because they love them. Furthermore, they wouldn't be tied to any particular corporation, so the whole project would be works of self-expression. And best of all, they would get some honest-to-god name recognition for their work!
AmilcarCabral
23rd December 2013, 18:52
Alexios: Hi, how are you? You are 100% right, you know the psychologist Eric Fromm said that humans are habit creatures, and most humans (except well-read intelligent people) can be acustomed to any kind of life. And what I am trying to claim here is that because of the neoliberal economic policies, being implemented by both The Republican Party and The Democratic Party in the last decade which has led to inflation, taxing every thing (to cover up the economic holes and pay for gov. debts) all those neoliberalism poliicies has led to Disney World of Florida being priced at around 100 dollars per person just for 1 day. And other theme parks of Florida are just as expensive, food is over-valued and super-expensive in those theme parks where right now only upper class people can enjoy them.
I heard that a hamburger in one of the Epcot Center fast food restaurants is priced at around 50 dollars. And every other pleasure in America is becoming an activity for the rich, weight-training gyms are priced at 100 dollars per month.
And wait for this terrorist bomb: In the near future movie theaters will cost 100 dollars to 150 dollars per person.
Having said all this about how the USA is becoming literally like India and Saudi Arabia cleptocratic plutocracies with outrageous irrational prices in many goods and activities. Socialism is more necessary than ever in America to drive down the prices (Not only food, houses, medical services, and other basic needs) but also pleasures, and entertainments and even the prices of playstations, nintendos, x-boxes need to be driven down to a level of prices where the masses can enjoy them.
Poor young americans can't even lift weights anymore, can't even create a music band (because even guitars, drums and other equipment needed for a music band are too expensive.
It is fair to assume that a large portion of the population of USA is spending their days right now eating breakfast, lunch, dinner and doing nothing else. Because millions of americans are even being forced to cancel their internet services and their cable-tv and dish providers services, in order to have enough money for real important things like food, electricity and their monthly payments of their houses or apartments.
Those millions of US citizens who are living that painful life (because the human body and mind is made for constant stimulation) cannot go on like that. And it is the heroic task of all leftists of USA to put away their petty ideological purity, to sacrifice their attatchment to their own leftist school of thought (Trotskyism, orthodox-marxisms, marxism-leninism, maoism, anarchism, social-democrats etc) and to unite into a united heroic leftist front to save the CHILDREN OF USA from their life that they have right now of eating and DOING NOTHING ELSE !!
Because a life in USA where practically all americans could enjoy gyms, movie theaters, disney world, vacation cruises, skying, and other pleasures would even lead to economic progress. Because a hyper-motivated population would work with real happiness, with real motivation and americnas would live longer, cancer levels would go down, obesity would go down, and there would be more positive energies in the whole USA
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This is a very important question that I think we should have an international congress on. I know I would not fight for communism if it meant I can't go to Disney World anymore.
Skyhilist
23rd December 2013, 19:12
All the water in the water parks will be dyed red.
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