View Full Version : POLL: Romantic Orientation
Marshal of the People
20th December 2013, 06:23
Romantic orientation is different from sexual orientation.
Aromantic: lack of romantic attraction towards anyone – the affectional equivalent of asexuality.
Biromantic (also ambiromantic): romantic attraction towards males and females (but not necessarily at the same time) – the affectionate equivalent of bisexuality.
Heteroromantic: romantic attraction towards person(s) of a different gender – the affectional equivalent of hetrosexuality.
Homoromantic: romantic attraction towards person(s) of the same gender – the affectional equivalent of homosexuality.
Panromantic: romantic attraction towards person(s) of every gender – the affectional equivalent of pansexuality.
Polyromantic: romantic attraction towards multiple, but not all, genders – the affectional equivalent of polysexuality.
Andromantic, gyneromantic, and ambi romantic: romantic attraction towards person(s) expressing masculinity or femininity or intersex/third gender-mixing (respectively) without implying the gender of the individual experiencing the attraction; often used by people with a non-binary gender identity – the affectional equivalent of androphilia, gynephilia and ambiphilic.
Skole romantic: romantic attraction towards person(s) of variant or non-binary gender – the affectional equivalent of skoliosexuality.
Demiromantic: a person who may identify as a "grey romantic" because they may only feel romantic attraction once a reasonably stable/large emotional connection has been created – the affectional equivalent of demisexuality.
[From Wikipedia] I am personally a heteroromantic homosexual male, so what about you guys?
Questionable
20th December 2013, 07:40
I'm a scole romantic. I'm attracted toward people with scoliosis.
Marshal of the People
20th December 2013, 07:45
I'm a scole romantic. I'm attracted toward people with scoliosis.
That is an incorrect definition which isn't funny and is highly offensive to actual scole romantics!
Fourth Internationalist
20th December 2013, 07:47
I'd consider myself demiromantic/grey-romantic.
BIXX
20th December 2013, 07:57
I honestly don't know. It's not something I think about enough to really know, but with what I know (or think I know) I think I may be heteroromantic.
Red Economist
20th December 2013, 11:23
put panromantic, as I'm bisexual but feel I shouldn't discriminate because someone doesn't fit in the 'male', 'female' gender.
Nice question. never really thought about it before...
Flying Purple People Eater
20th December 2013, 11:33
I don't engage in romantic relationships unless there's a real connection going on, so I guess that puts me under the demisexual category.
But isn't that a bit odd? I thought 'demisexual' demarked someone as having a low romantic level of feelings, not romantic feelings for people that are only shared when they are close.
Raquin
20th December 2013, 11:46
That is an incorrect definition which isn't funny and is highly offensive to actual scole romantics!
Which isn't even a real thing, are you actually that thick? Why are you people so eager to claim as many "oppressed" identity types as you possibly can? What is this, the oppression olympics? Well I guess the gold medal goes to the autistic polysexual polyromantic transgender ginger deaf kid. You win at leftism, sir.
consuming negativity
20th December 2013, 12:39
Which isn't even a real thing, are you actually that thick? Why are you people so eager to claim as many "oppressed" identity types as you possibly can? What is this, the oppression olympics? Well I guess the gold medal goes to the autistic polysexual polyromantic transgender ginger deaf kid. You win at leftism, sir.
Or, perhaps - and stay with me here - Marshal of the People wants their thread to be taken seriously and doesn't think that Questionable's.... questionable (ha ha) pun joke is a positive contribution to this thread, but rather trivializing (not to mention incredibly not-funny)?
Moreover, why are you so angry? It's kind of amusing to me that you're upset over MotP telling Questionable that someone might, perhaps, get upset over their post. :lol:
Flying Purple People Eater
20th December 2013, 12:45
Which isn't even a real thing, are you actually that thick? Why are you people so eager to claim as many "oppressed" identity types as you possibly can? What is this, the oppression olympics? Well I guess the gold medal goes to the autistic polysexual polyromantic transgender ginger deaf kid. You win at leftism, sir.
This is some of the worst chain-logic I've ever seen.
Comrade Jacob
20th December 2013, 13:08
Bi-romantic, Bisexual, agender male.
Quail
20th December 2013, 16:57
Can we keep the thread on topic and be civil to each other please? (Looking at you mostly, Raquin.)
Honestly I haven't really put much thought into my romantic orientation because it is the same as my sexual orientation (I voted panromantic, though I tend to describe myself as bisexual despite feeling attracted to people of all genders). I must also confess that although I have read about romantic orientation online I haven't really come across much discussion of it offline.
OP - I'm interested to hear how you think romantic orientation ties into discrimination against LGBT people.
Landsharks eat metal
20th December 2013, 18:43
Put biromantic (and I'm also bisexual), even though panromantic/pansexual is probably closer to what I really am; I've just got a major problem with the way some people use that word (including the othering of binary trans people and treating people who identify as bi as though they're being discriminatory by not calling themselves pan.)
Marshal of the People
20th December 2013, 21:49
Which isn't even a real thing, are you actually that thick? Why are you people so eager to claim as many "oppressed" identity types as you possibly can? What is this, the oppression olympics? Well I guess the gold medal goes to the autistic polysexual polyromantic transgender ginger deaf kid. You win at leftism, sir.
Why are you so angry? How was that joke funny when it could be potentially hurtful to actualSkole romantics? And what do you have against people who are different (I am autistic so that was quite hurtful)? And romantic orientation is different to sexual orientation (though not in all (or possibly most) people.
Marshal of the People
20th December 2013, 21:55
Can we keep the thread on topic and be civil to each other please? (Looking at you mostly, Raquin.)
Honestly I haven't really put much thought into my romantic orientation because it is the same as my sexual orientation (I voted panromantic, though I tend to describe myself as bisexual despite feeling attracted to people of all genders). I must also confess that although I have read about romantic orientation online I haven't really come across much discussion of it offline.
OP - I'm interested to hear how you think romantic orientation ties into discrimination against LGBT people.
I guess because for some people their romantic orientation is different than their sexual orientation it can be a bit confusing for them and it can also lead to discrimination just like LGBT people face (for example a homoromantic person being discriminated against in a similar or identical fashion to a homosexual). But that is just my personal opinion (I could be wrong).
Landsharks eat metal
20th December 2013, 21:56
Why are you so angry? How was that joke funny when it could be potentially hurtful to actualSkole romantics? And what do you have against people who are different (I am autistic so that was quite hurtful)? And romantic orientation is different to sexual orientation (though not in all (or possibly most) people.
Pretty sure it's not about people who actually are "different", but people who claim to be things they're not to appear more "oppressed" or whatever. I have Asperger's, diagnosed by an actual doctor, but people on the Internet have a tendency to do things like try to diagnose themselves with mental disorders or take on others' legitimate identities (or make up their own) to make themselves seem quirky or special or whatever. That's very hurtful to people who actually experience such things. When I see people faking identities to seem special, it is hurtful to me because I face a lot of problems for them whereas they do not, and it also makes it harder for people to take me seriously because they might think I'm just making it up too.
Marshal of the People
20th December 2013, 22:02
Pretty sure it's not about people who actually are "different", but people who claim to be things they're not to appear more "oppressed" or whatever. I have Asperger's, diagnosed by an actual doctor, but people on the Internet have a tendency to do things like try to diagnose themselves with mental disorders or take on others' legitimate identities (or make up their own) to make themselves seem quirky or special or whatever. That's very hurtful to people who actually experience such things. When I see people faking identities to seem special, it is hurtful to me because I face a lot of problems for them whereas they do not, and it also makes it harder for people to take me seriously because they might think I'm just making it up too.
I didn't know people did that (nor why they do that) but I am sorry to hear it upsets you. I also have aspergers (technically it is just called ASD (Autism Spectrum Disorder) or autism since the introduction of the DSM-5).
Landsharks eat metal
20th December 2013, 22:06
I didn't know people did that (nor why they do that) but I am sorry to hear it upsets you. I also have aspergers (technically it is just called ASD (Autism Spectrum Disorder) or autism since the introduction of the DSM-5).
It's also a big issue with gender identity. I'm FTM transgender, and there is a large contingency of people on Tumblr who think calling themselves trans is just a cool thing to do, but they're not actually trans at all. Many of them even call themselves FTM, but they're pretty much appropriating it. If their parents and friends don't accept them for it, they can just stop pretending to be it. I can't stop being who I am, so I am going to have to turn my back on pretty much everything I've ever known just so I can get to a place where I can be accepted. It's hurtful that people think my identity is just something fun to play with when I'm facing real consequences.
Brandon's Impotent Rage
20th December 2013, 22:52
I'm pansexual/panromantic. Very pansexual/panromantic.
Sinister Intents
20th December 2013, 23:40
Never thought about this before, I am a heterosexual and hetero romantic.
Bardo
21st December 2013, 04:30
I'm not quite sure I'm understanding the concept properly. Is romanticism separable from sexual interest? Obviously there are many aromantics who are highly sexual, and many asexuals who may be panromantic. But for everyone else, are sexual orientation and romantic orientation commonly at odds?
As a heterosexual, I would describe myself as a heteroromantic as I generally only have romantic feelings for those of the opposite sex. If we're talking about any sort of affection whatsoever, then I would describe myself as panromantic, I don't discriminate who I show nonsexual affection towards based on gender or sexual orientation/identity. If we're talking about much deeper, romantic affections I would describe myself as a "grey romantic", as I don't really embark on deep relationships without making a deeper connection with someone.
Sabot Cat
21st December 2013, 04:43
Because neologisms are desperately scarce, I'll contribute "henoromanticism", wherein your romantic attractions are generally associated with one person , while acknowledging that one has or has the possibility of having romantic feelings that extend beyond that person, "kathenoromanticism", the condition of deliberately promulgating henoromanticist feelings for a series of successive partners, and "polyromanticism", the state of having acknowledged romantic feelings for multiple partners at once. I would say that I am a henoromanticist but I know some kathenoromanticists and polyromanticists.
Marshal of the People
21st December 2013, 04:44
I'm not quite sure I'm understanding the concept properly. Is romanticism separable from sexual interest? Obviously there are many aromantics who are highly sexual, and many asexuals who may be panromantic. But for everyone else, are sexual orientation and romantic orientation commonly at odds?
As a heterosexual, I would describe myself as a heteroromantic as I generally only have romantic feelings for those of the opposite sex. If we're talking about any sort of affection whatsoever, then I would describe myself as panromantic, I don't discriminate who I show nonsexual affection towards based on gender or sexual orientation/identity. If we're talking about much deeper, romantic affections I would describe myself as a "grey romantic", as I don't really embark on deep relationships without making a deeper connection with someone.
Romantic orientation is indeed different to sexual orientation.
http://emptyclosets.com/forum/chit-chat/53194-romantic-orientation-vs-sexual-orientation.html
http://intjforum.com/showthread.php?t=50904
It is possible to have a different romantic orientation than sexual for example I am heteroromantic and homosexual.
When talking about romantic orientation it is basically defined as:
Affectional orientation, informally called romantic orientation, indicates the kind of person (based on gender or sex) with whom a person is most likely to fall in love. Although a bisexual person may feel sexually attracted to men and women, they may be predisposed to emotional intimacy with certain genders. Moreover, emotional intimacy between partners does not require sexual attraction because attraction is not purely sexual. For some people, sexual orientation is reductionistic.
From: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Romantic_orientation
Tenka
21st December 2013, 04:55
Skole romantic: romantic attraction towards person(s) of variant or non-binary gender – the affectional equivalent of skoliosexuality.
Demiromantic: a person who may identify as a "grey romantic" because they may only feel romantic attraction once a reasonably stable/large emotional connection has been created – the affectional equivalent of demisexuality.
Both of these are most accurate. All of them are ugly words and I don't see the point in categorising the sort of gender expression or lack thereof one is most romantically attracted to. Too, I am basically homosexual, but I am not homoromantic because the male gender identity is something I despise, and also I need a good stable emotional connection to feel any romantic attraction and most sexual attraction.
Sorry, I came in here with my mind closed and the labels make me afraid to open it.
Sentinel
21st December 2013, 05:08
Unfortunately it seems that I'm aromantic (but not asexual). I never fall in love with anyone, and also lack some other basic feelings such as grief.
I don't consider this an identity but a disability; and probably it indeed is some form of post traumatic stress syndrome or something similar.
I know it wasn't always like that, as I did have a few crushes on people in my early teens. I don't think I've ever really felt grief, though.
Thirsty Crow
21st December 2013, 05:46
Eh, interesting question.
I'd say, based on experience so far, heteroromantic though when it comes to sexual orientation, I'm bisexual (along the lines of the "2", probably, on the Kinsey scale I'd say).
Curious mismatch, I wonder how that could be explained (I've wondered about this only rarely, which is odd in fact).
Danielle Ni Dhighe
21st December 2013, 05:47
Bisexual/homoromantic.
Vladimir Innit Lenin
21st December 2013, 08:53
hmm, i'm not sure i'm fully grasping the concept of romanticism as separate from sexual interest on the one hand, and mere affection on the other.
As a heterosexual person, I may choose heteroromanticism, but I feel a lot of affection for my guy friends, i'm not really the type to be like 'hur hur I can't tell my guy mates I love them/I can't say if a guy looks fit'. So I don't know if that level of affection transcends the affection/romantic barrier. Probably not, but i'm still really unsure of what the concept of romanticism specifically means.
Marshal of the People
21st December 2013, 09:09
hmm, i'm not sure i'm fully grasping the concept of romanticism as separate from sexual interest on the one hand, and mere affection on the other.
As a heterosexual person, I may choose heteroromanticism, but I feel a lot of affection for my guy friends, i'm not really the type to be like 'hur hur I can't tell my guy mates I love them/I can't say if a guy looks fit'. So I don't know if that level of affection transcends the affection/romantic barrier. Probably not, but i'm still really unsure of what the concept of romanticism specifically means.
Definition of romantic orientation:
Affectional orientation, informally called romantic orientation, indicates the kind of person (based on gender or sex) with whom a person is most likely to fall in love. Although a bisexual person may feel sexually attracted to men and women, they may be predisposed to emotional intimacy with certain genders. Moreover, emotional intimacy between partners does not require sexual attraction because attraction is not purely sexual. For some people, sexual orientation is reductionistic.
From: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Romantic_orientation (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Romantic_orientation)
Tenka
21st December 2013, 16:56
And to expand on my previous ignorant post: maybe I am in actuality homoromantic because I am an agender/trans person who is only romantically interested in the same. I do not identify as anything based on my sex. I suppose the only thing that makes this poll confusing to me is the inherently confusing interactions of sex and gender and varieties of attraction.
I don't think I can decide on something to tic in the poll.:unsure:
Art Vandelay
21st December 2013, 19:21
I honestly don't know the answer to this question. Its probably either biromantic or panromantic, but I suppose I could end up being heteroromantic too.
Yuppie Grinder
21st December 2013, 19:29
really what's the point in categorizing people into neat little boxes like this
Marshal of the People
21st December 2013, 19:30
really what's the point in categorizing people into neat little boxes like this
Then what is the point at categorising people at all? How about we stop recognising all mental and physical illnesses as well as not recognising sexual orientation.
Yuppie Grinder
21st December 2013, 20:27
Then what is the point at categorising people at all? How about we stop recognising all mental and physical illnesses as well as not recognising sexual orientation.
most people don't fit into neat little boxes in terms of sexual orientation
Art Vandelay
21st December 2013, 20:29
most people don't fit into neat little boxes in terms of sexual orientation
I honestly think human sexuality is probably far too fluid to fit into those neat little boxes in most cases.
Ele'ill
21st December 2013, 20:54
I think polls like this to an extent and tumblr-whatever end up homogenizing and categorizing a thing but so does the common trench digging reaction, setting up a neo-societal tribunal to judge on sexuality and gender.
MattDoe
23rd December 2013, 10:31
Heteroromantic.
Goblin
24th December 2013, 01:33
I would call myself biromantic, as i have had romantic feelings for both men and women.
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