Vegans! It is that time of the year

[The Feral Underclass]

And by that time of the year I mean that time when your carnivorous family members take great pleasure in taunting you with Turkey flesh.

What will you people be substituting your Turkey with? I am totally sick of nut roasts, so I need an alternative. I made tofurkey once and it was actually pretty good...

[Quail]

I'm going to be making something a bit like this (http://mouthwateringvegan.com/2013/12/03/double-stuffed-savoury-christmas-log/) (basically puff pastry stuffed with spicy lentils, nuts and mushrooms) for the main course with some nice gravy and chocolate and golden syrup pudding for dessert for Christmas dinner. Not sure about tea, but I was hoping to make a chocolate and honeycomb tofu "cheese"cake for people to eat. (When I am cooking for other people and my parents are buying the ingredients the tendency is to go a bit overboard and make as much nice food as possible since I like cooking.)

[Vladimir Innit Lenin]

beef, turkey, chipolatas

[Yet_Another_Boring_Marxist]

beef, turkey, chipolatas

And don't forget the bacon

CErapf79rqM

[The Feral Underclass]

This isn't a thread for meat eaters to come and talk about what meat they are eating...

[The Feral Underclass]

I'm going to be making something a bit like this (http://mouthwateringvegan.com/2013/12/03/double-stuffed-savoury-christmas-log/)

That looks awesome.

[helot]

How about just forgetting it's christmas and make something that you love eating? I've not had a traditional christmas dinner in years, i usually have curry on that day.

[Vladimir Innit Lenin]

And don't forget the bacon

CErapf79rqM

nope, us jews don't get to have bacon on official occasions. so in fact it will probably just be beef and turkey.

[Quail]

This isn't a thread for meat eaters to come and talk about what meat they are eating...

Not an entirely unpredictable response to a thread about vegan food though...

I seriously don't know why people do it though. It's not clever or even offensive. It's just spam... and spam isn't vegan so doesn't belong in this thread ;)

[Vladimir Innit Lenin]

hey, it's only fair to spam the odd TAT thread, in the spirit of revenge and all that :)

[The Feral Underclass]

Not an entirely unpredictable response to a thread about vegan food though...

Yeah, it was probably naive of me to think people were mature enough to handle it.


I seriously don't know why people do it though. It's not clever or even offensive. It's just spam... and spam isn't vegan so doesn't belong in this thread ;)

I get the impression that meat eaters just don't like the implication that they are doing anything wrong and so have some puerile need to make sure we know they think they're right.

[The Feral Underclass]

hey, it's only fair to spam the odd TAT thread, in the spirit of revenge and all that :)

Revenge for what?

[Vladimir Innit Lenin]

the many times you've irritated me!

having said that, i genuinely didn't mean to cause a stir, was meant to be a light hearted contribution to the thread, so apologies if anybody has taken offence.

ich liebe doch alle menschen.

[The Feral Underclass]

Why would you think talking about how you're going to eat dead animals would be a light hearted contribution in a thread made by a vegan for vegans?

[Vladimir Innit Lenin]

forget it

[helot]

Not an entirely unpredictable response to a thread about vegan food though...

I seriously don't know why people do it though. It's not clever or even offensive. It's just spam... and spam isn't vegan so doesn't belong in this thread ;)


It offends their masculinity :p

[Sam_b]

If someone taunted me with turkey I'd probably be more likely to go vegan.

[Art Vandelay]

This will be my second xmas since I stopped eating meat. I usually just eat all the sides that don't have meat in them.

[PC LOAD LETTER]

I'm an omnivore but I enjoy vegetarian and vegan meals.

One thing I used to make when I was in my freshman year of college was steamed brown rice stir-fried with soy sauce, misc veggies (carrot slices, broccoli, cauliflower mostly, in addition to whatever my room mate had that he didn't want), black pepper, and cubed tofu. Considering how cheap everything is, especially since I could get tofu by the brick at the korean store for $0.81, it was as cheap as living off Ramen Noodles but much healthier.

Am I allowed in here? Because if I am, I'm going to steal all of your recipes.

[Ele'ill]

probably top ramen

[bcbm]

i will smite any more non vegan posts in this thread with the fury of a thousand angry gods

[The Feral Underclass]

Only a thousand? You fucking liberal.

[The Feral Underclass]

forget it

Never forget!...Never forgive!

[The Feral Underclass]

probably top ramen

I had to google what top ramen was. Is this your Christmas meal of choice? You can always come to my mother's house for Christmas dinner. We can make fun of my sister's fiancée and do animal rights actions during dinner i.e. wear balaclavas, throw sprouts at people eating Turkey and bang our fists on the table in a menacing manner.

[Vladimir Innit Lenin]

i will smite any more non vegan posts in this thread with the fury of a thousand angry gods

i reckon two thousand.

or meat me halfway at 1,500? ;)

[Skyhilist]

Look you guys don't have to be dicks. You don't see us flooding your threads with pictures of tofu.

Anyways, I'll be at my grandparents in Cincinnati for the holidays. The don't really even know what veganism is and I think they believe that I eat grass or something. But my grandma and I both enjoy cooking so I'll bring a few vegan cookbooks.Speaking of which, does anyone own Hot Damn and Hell Yeah/The Dirty South Cookbook? I've been meaning to buy that one.

[Quail]

Look you guys don't have to be dicks. You don't see us flooding your threads with pictures of tofu.


I vote we start doing this :lol:

[Vladimir Innit Lenin]

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[Comrade Chernov]

I just hate the taste of vegetables, personally.

Is there a name for someone who eats mostly bread/grain-based products? Because if I stopped eating meat, that's probably what I would be. :P

[Comrade Jacob]

I just hate the taste of vegetables, personally.

Is there a name for someone who eats mostly bread/grain-based products? Because if I stopped eating meat, that's probably what I would be. :P

Hell yeah, bring on the constipation!

[Ele'ill]

funny how vegans can survive (very healthily) without animal products but non vegans (gobshites) can't survive without veggies/fruit

[The Feral Underclass]

I just hate the taste of vegetables, personally.

You hate the taste of vegetables? Like all vegetables? I mean, that's a lot of things to dislike the flavour of? So what you're saying is you have an individual dislike of every vegetable flavour? That's some achievement for two reasons: a) on having eaten every single vegetable in order to make that decision and b) the coincidence of disliking the flavour of them all.

Some might say that was unbelievable.

[Comrade Jacob]

funny how vegans can survive (very healthily) without animal products but non vegans (gobshites) can't survive without veggies/fruit

This is why we must rally behind veggies/fruit! They are the true revolutionary food! Death to the revisionist animal products lead by their leader Gobshite!

[Ele'ill]

good reply

[ÑóẊîöʼn]

funny how vegans can survive (very healthily) without animal products but non vegans (gobshites) can't survive without veggies/fruit

Liver and other organ meats are actually pretty good sources of vitamins from what I read. Maybe that's why people like the Inuit survived on their traditional diet of mostly meat and blubber.

[Ele'ill]

mostly

[ÑóẊîöʼn]

You hate the taste of vegetables? Like all vegetables? I mean, that's a lot of things to dislike the flavour of? So what you're saying is you have an individual dislike of every vegetable flavour? That's some achievement for two reasons: a) on having eaten every single vegetable in order to make that decision and b) the coincidence of disliking the flavour of them all.

Some might say that was unbelievable.

I suspect what Comrade Chernov is referring to is that bitter "green" or "planty" taste that is especially strong in certain vegetables like broccoli or brussels sprouts. Can't say I'm a massive fan of that taste either.

[ÑóẊîöʼn]

mostly

Alright, they probably ate a fair bit of fish as well.

[The Feral Underclass]

I fucking love broccoli. It's in my top three vegetables. Panned fried with some oil and garlic salt is some of the best shit in the world.

[Ele'ill]

Alright, they probably ate a fair bit of fish as well.

what veggies or fruit did they eat

[Quail]

I think brussels sprouts are one of the few veggies I don't like. I can't actually think of any others off the top of my head. There are so many different vegetables that can be cooked in a variety of different ways, I find it hard to imagine not liking any of them.

[Comrade Chernov]

You hate the taste of vegetables? Like all vegetables? I mean, that's a lot of things to dislike the flavour of? So what you're saying is you have an individual dislike of every vegetable flavour? That's some achievement for two reasons: a) on having eaten every single vegetable in order to make that decision and b) the coincidence of disliking the flavour of them all.

Some might say that was unbelievable.

I like raw cucumbers, raw carrots, and corn-on-the-cob (not off the cob). The rest is a matter of texture, taste, or both. So, yeah, I dislike the vast majority of vegetables.

EDIT: I like tomato products (such as ketchup, and tomato soup when used in chop suey), but I don't like eating tomatoes themselves. Same with potatoes (french fries, hash browns, tater tots, etc). Like I said, texture and taste.

[The Feral Underclass]

I like raw cucumbers, raw carrots, and corn-on-the-cob (not off the cob). The rest is a matter of texture, taste, or both. So, yeah, I dislike the vast majority of vegetables.

EDIT: I like tomato products (such as ketchup, and tomato soup when used in chop suey), but I don't like eating tomatoes themselves. Like I said, texture and taste.

You are a fussy eater.

[Comrade Chernov]

I indeed am a fussy eater. Ask my mom about the time she had to pay me $20 to get me to try Whipped Cream (and I didn't like it, either!). :P

But it's not like I consciously chose to gag when I tried creamed corn for the first time. I would have spared myself that reaction if I had the option.

[Comrade Jacob]

I like all food...except boiled potatoes and carrots.

[The Feral Underclass]

I indeed am a fussy eater. Ask my mom about the time she had to pay me $20 to get me to try Whipped Cream (and I didn't like it, either!). :P

But it's not like I consciously chose to gag when I tried creamed corn for the first time. I would have spared myself that reaction if I had the option.

Are you not interested to understand why you have such a bizarre reaction to food? I would hate having that kind of interaction with food.

[The Feral Underclass]

I like all food...except boiled potatoes and carrots.

The only food I can't eat is raw mushrooms (other than the foods I choose not to eat).

[Comrade Chernov]

Are you not interested to understand why you have such a bizarre reaction to food? I would hate having that kind of interaction with food.

Asperger's, my friend. I don't particularly care that much about it; the foods I do eat are delicious and keep me more than happy enough as it is.

[The Feral Underclass]

Fair enough.

[Comrade Chernov]

I could live contently off of nothing except Rice Pilaf, Tater Tots, and Iced Tea, in all honestly. :P

[Art Vandelay]

I like raw cucumbers, raw carrots, and corn-on-the-cob (not off the cob).

I've never heard anyone else say that before, but I'm the same way. You sir, know whats up.

[PC LOAD LETTER]

what veggies or fruit did they eat
A small amount of seaweed, berries, and roots; season permitting.

[Vladimir Innit Lenin]

I fucking love broccoli. It's in my top three vegetables. Panned fried with some oil and garlic salt is some of the best shit in the world.

pan frying broccoli is counter-revolutionary.

broccoli should be steamed for a long time, sprinkled with salt. yum yum yum.

[Quail]

pan frying broccoli is counter-revolutionary.

broccoli should be steamed for a long time, sprinkled with salt. yum yum yum.

Everything is better fried, and everything is better with garlic.

[Sinister Intents]

Everything is better fried, and everything is better with garlic.

Omg yes! I pretty much add garlic to every meal I make. I haven't been having any hassle over eating vegetarian lately :)

[Vladimir Innit Lenin]

Everything is better fried, and everything is better with garlic.

not greens. My mate's dad was basically like 'if you fry greens you're basically just killing them of all their nutritiousness, why'd you do that?'

But yeah, everything else is better fried, just not greens.

[The Feral Underclass]

^That assumes that people eat them for the nutrients. When I'm pan frying things, I'm not thinking "Oohh I hope this is a good way of preserving the nutrients." I'm thinking "Umm tasty fried garlicy salty broccoli get in my belly."

[Ele'ill]

when i have ten dollars and I walk into an all vegan market i'm not thinking 'oh my god yes i can buy ten dollars worth of swiss chard and avocados" i am thinking 'cookies, pizza, chips, dip,.." but then I remember that ten dollars is about fifty cents short of buying a single vegan cookie so I settle with expropriating as many cookies as I can. Guilt free, I've repurposed the cookies from a shelf display to in my stomach.

[Comrade #138672]

Asperger's, my friend. I don't particularly care that much about it; the foods I do eat are delicious and keep me more than happy enough as it is.Same here. People always ask me: "Don't you think it's boring that you're always eating the same stuff over and over again?" No, not really, no.

[Comrade Chernov]

Same here. People always ask me: "Don't you think it's boring that you're always eating the same stuff over and over again?" No, not really, no.

Exactly. Like, I've probably had American Chop Suey (my favorite food) at least four times a week for dinner for the last...well, the last few years. And I haven't gotten tired of it at all.

[Landsharks eat metal]

Exactly. Like, I've probably had American Chop Suey (my favorite food) at least four times a week for dinner for the last...well, the last few years. And I haven't gotten tired of it at all.
That's sort of weird to me because I have Asperger's too, but finding crazy new foods to try is one of my favorite things in the world. I'm probably the weird one though.

[Fourth Internationalist]

I wish I could be vegan. My parents think I'm going to become unhealthy if I become one though, and they have been trying to make me take extra iron recently because I'm a vegetarian. Though, I haven't had any problems in the last few years, so I doubt I will develop an iron deficiency now.

[The Feral Underclass]

I wish I could be vegan. My parents think I'm going to become unhealthy if I become one though, and they have been trying to make me take extra iron recently because I'm a vegetarian. Though, I haven't had any problems in the last few years, so I doubt I will develop an iron deficiency now.

If your parents think that not eating animal fat is unhealthy then you should probably suggest the internet to them. Cutting dairy out of your diet is probably one of the healthiest things you could choose to do.

[Fourth Internationalist]

If your parents think that not eating animal fat is unhealthy then you should probably suggest the internet to them. Cutting dairy out of your diet is probably one of the healthiest things you could choose to do.

My parents dismiss the things I believe in (veganism, atheism, Marxism) because they claim I believe everything I read on the internet. So I doubt that would help, sadly.

[The Feral Underclass]

My parents dismiss the things I believe in (veganism, atheism, Marxism) because they claim I believe everything I read on the internet. So I doubt that would help, sadly.

Cheese and milk is basically just saturated fat and saturated fat raises low density lipids. LDL's cause heart disease, most notably atherosclerosis. I imagine most doctors will tell you that. As someone who suffers from hypertriglyceridemia, I can tell you from experience that cutting animal fat from your diet is a healthy option.

[Vladimir Innit Lenin]

TAT do you have any sources for this you'd describe as reputable? There are a load of links on google but it's difficult on google to tell what is from 'real medicine/science', and what is quackery.

I've always imagined that, in moderate doses, dairy products like skimmed milk are perfectly fine as part of a balanced diet. Seems as though there is some evidence linking dairy products in general to certain cancers and, as you say, the usual ailments caused by saturated fats, but i'm unclear on a couple of things:

a) are these risks associated with all dairy products, or specific products in particular? For example, i'd have thought that if the only dairy products you ever eat are blue cheeses, your risks of health problems would be significantly greater than if you just stick to skimmed milk, low-fat yoghurts etc.;

b) are these risks associated with high doses of dairy products, or just any consumption (including low consumption) of dairy products compared to zero consumption? Again, i'd have thought that, like most food groups, consuming relatively moderate amounts of dairy in your diet wouldn't pose any particular health risks.

[The Feral Underclass]

TAT do you have any sources for this you'd describe as reputable? There are a load of links on google but it's difficult on google to tell what is from 'real medicine/science', and what is quackery.

My GP, my cardiologist and my lipids specialist have all said that if I want to reduce my lipids that I should not consume animal fat.

[Skyhilist]

Today, I went grocery shopping with my grandmother. After explaining to her that vegan meant I consume no animal products she asked me "can you eat fish?" and then later was concerned that I couldn't have orange juice. So yeah, families can tend to be pretty ignorant about veganism, just do your best Link (for example, show them vegan sources of iron) and if they still wont listen then it isn't your fault, and you can always become vegan when you're 18 while doing the best you can now.

[Ele'ill]

beer

toasted bread + avocado + toasted onion hummus

eggplant parmesan

salad

beer

[Vladimir Innit Lenin]

My GP, my cardiologist and my lipids specialist have all said that if I want to reduce my lipids that I should not consume animal fat.

any electronic sources? i'd be interested to read more..

[The Feral Underclass]

No, I don't have any electronic resources. Sorry. You could always ask your GP the next time you see them.

[Ele'ill]

the problem is that 'in moderation' means 'consuming only enough to not have a certain effect' like radiation, nightshade, cyanide, mold spores, etc.. you can consume them in moderation or be exposed to them 'in moderation' but the problem is, and obviously this goes with foods too, is that the exposure to substances that are harmful are usually above 'moderated levels' like when consuming animal fats its not usually a smidgen of butter or whatever the average 'dosage' is above what is healthy so with foods it is kinda pointless to even use certain things when there are alternatives that are actually *good* for you

[Quail]

I have spent ages cooking yesterday and today in preparation for tomorrow :) I made gingerbread houses and shortbread to give as gifts, and a lentil pastry roll, red wine gravy, chocolate cake, chocolate honeycomb "cheese"cake and chocolate truffles for tomorrow. Yeeeah I went kind of overboard, and I feel sick after 2 days of nibbling at biscuit/cake dough... but hopefully my family will appreciate it. :)

The non-vegetarians in my family will be eating 6 different fucking animals though, which is kind of ridiculous, and disgusting. Seriously, six animals in one meal, wtf.

[Ele'ill]

holy shit chocolate honeycomb sounds good but i don't eat honey

[The Garbage Disposal Unit]

I wish I could be vegan. My parents think I'm going to become unhealthy if I become one though, and they have been trying to make me take extra iron recently because I'm a vegetarian. Though, I haven't had any problems in the last few years, so I doubt I will develop an iron deficiency now.

Drink blackstrap molasses like juice.
Eat Jerusalem artichokes (sunchoke) - coincidentally, also one of those easy-to-grow plants if you're doing the whole gardening thing, with pretty yellow flowers as a bonus.

[Quail]

holy shit chocolate honeycomb sounds good but i don't eat honey

Neither do I :) It's made of sugar, golden syrup and bicarbonate of soda.

[Skyhilist]

Today I made vegan apple pie and monkey bread to tomorrow - I'm usually not one to brag but my monkey bread looks delicious, especially with a little glaze drizzled on the top.

[The Feral Underclass]

I had to google monkey bread. Looks amazing.

[Quail]

Today I made vegan apple pie and monkey bread to tomorrow - I'm usually not one to brag but my monkey bread looks delicious, especially with a little glaze drizzled on the top.


I had to google monkey bread. Looks amazing.

Yeah me too (the googling). Looks fucking delicious.

[Skyhilist]

It's like a cake that you grab pieces of and shove in your mouth that tastes someone like the inside of a cinnamon roll but a little more gooey and sweet. Always been one of my favorites.