Political science

[Hiero]

Im doing year 12 now and will finish this year. I have been looking into political science and it seems interesting at hte subjects i will learn, i would like to here people's opinions and comments who are doing this course or ahve down it like is it hard, lots of study etc etc.

[marsell]

it is good, i have done some of it for credits, but there is not much trotskyist communism or marxism in there, its all cappie and some stalinist.

[Saint-Just]

Originally posted by [email protected] 20 2004, 01:18 PM
it is good, i have done some of it for credits, but there is not much trotskyist communism or marxism in there, its all cappie and some stalinist.
There is a lot of Marxism in most political science courses. There is no 'Stalinism', however there is a lot of Leninism of course, but yes, there is little Trotskyism.

What subjects are you doing now, comrade neonate?

[monkeydust]

Originally posted by comrade [email protected] 20 2004, 11:17 AM
Im doing year 12 now and will finish this year. I have been looking into political science and it seems interesting at hte subjects i will learn, i would like to here people's opinions and comments who are doing this course or ahve down it like is it hard, lots of study etc etc.
Like Chairman Mao said it would be interesting to know which subjects you are studying now. Are you doing a Politcs A level at the moment?

[Guerilla22]

Originally posted by comrade [email protected] 20 2004, 11:17 AM
Im doing year 12 now and will finish this year. I have been looking into political science and it seems interesting at hte subjects i will learn, i would like to here people's opinions and comments who are doing this course or ahve down it like is it hard, lots of study etc etc.
Wow! 12 years. I wish I had your determination. I'm on my second year and I'm majoring in Latin American politics at Western Michigan University. I hope to specialize in guerilla insurgencies for my masters. I hope to go to either Georgetown or John Hopkins for grad school, but I would like to travel through Latin America a little more before then. So far I've only been to Mexico and Guatemala.

[Hiero]

Im not at university yet im doing my last year at high school and i have been on th uni site that i might be going to and they ha in previous years down stuff on marxims well actuall communist china but it depends on the teacher's choice.

[Hitman47]

Originally posted by Guerilla22+Jan 21 2004, 06:55 AM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Guerilla22 @ Jan 21 2004, 06:55 AM)
comrade [email protected] 20 2004, 11:17 AM
Im doing year 12 now and will finish this year. I have been looking into political science and it seems interesting at hte subjects i will learn, i would like to here people&#39;s opinions and comments who are doing this course or ahve down it like is it hard, lots of study etc etc.
Wow&#33; 12 years. I wish I had your determination. I&#39;m on my second year and I&#39;m majoring in Latin American politics at Western Michigan University. I hope to specialize in guerilla insurgencies for my masters. I hope to go to either Georgetown or John Hopkins for grad school, but I would like to travel through Latin America a little more before then. So far I&#39;ve only been to Mexico and Guatemala. [/b]
hey thats where i want to go right after high school&#33;&#33; Johns Hopkins :D


Is there any opportuntities in Political Science that would lead to non-capitalist sorta of stuff? :P

[Saint-Just]

Im not at university yet im doing my last year at high school and i have been on th uni site that i might be going to and they ha in previous years down stuff on marxims well actuall communist china but it depends on the teacher&#39;s choice.

We were under the impression you were British, in which case you would have had the choice to study politics in your current year. I would have thought the same opportunities may exist in the U.S. in the last two years of high school. Anyway, I don&#39;t know precisely what you are currently studying, but it sounds like more of a historical look at socialism in terms of China and Marxism. Political Science is radically different from this. Personally I would not choose to study political science. Be in no doubt that it is a difficult subject to study and I would not suggest studying it if you have not good knowledge of what it will be like.

A lot of people do enjoy it and are very skilled in this field. You could well be that type of person. But an interest in politics does not necessarily mean you will enjoy studying political science, this is true for me and possible it could be for you too. I don&#39;t know if political science may be different in the U.S.

What I would suggest is you study something that you currently study which you are very good at and enjoy.

[Guerilla22]

Originally posted by Hitman47+Jan 21 2004, 10:21 AM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Hitman47 @ Jan 21 2004, 10:21 AM)
Originally posted by [email protected] 21 2004, 06:55 AM

comrade [email protected] 20 2004, 11:17 AM
Im doing year 12 now and will finish this year. I have been looking into political science and it seems interesting at hte subjects i will learn, i would like to here people&#39;s opinions and comments who are doing this course or ahve down it like is it hard, lots of study etc etc.
Wow&#33; 12 years. I wish I had your determination. I&#39;m on my second year and I&#39;m majoring in Latin American politics at Western Michigan University. I hope to specialize in guerilla insurgencies for my masters. I hope to go to either Georgetown or John Hopkins for grad school, but I would like to travel through Latin America a little more before then. So far I&#39;ve only been to Mexico and Guatemala.
hey thats where i want to go right after high school&#33;&#33; Johns Hopkins :D


Is there any opportuntities in Political Science that would lead to non-capitalist sorta of stuff? :P [/b]
Well I gotta warn you that both Johns Hopkins and Georgetown (the two best politcal science schools in the nation) are inhabited by large hordes of conservatives. It&#39;s tough to get past the American capitalist ideology, but I&#39;m sure you will be able to find a group of like thinking students to hang around with. I have.

I really don&#39;t study US economic theory and policy at all, because I&#39;m majoring in Latin American politics ( I only study the adverse affect US economic policy has on other nations.) Hopkins has more graduate programs than under grad programs and it is home to the School of Advance International Studies, the same school a very large number of current government officials went to. Georgetown is home to the School of Foreign Service, which a lot of State Department and CIA employees have went ot, should you wanna go that route.

[Misodoctakleidist]

Originally posted by Chairman [email protected] 21 2004, 04:43 PM
We were under the impression you were British, in which case you would have had the choice to study politics in your current year. I would have thought the same opportunities may exist in the U.S. in the last two years of high school.
I thought he was australian.

[JasonR]

Comrade Neonate,

over here my poly science course is absolutely excellent, I learn a lot. There are 3 far-leftists/communists, but most are Greenies Nadar type people (A lot like me so far). We do overhauls of the United States&#39; diplomatic history, have huge timed debates on the president, debate philosophical theories like Marxism, capitalism, englsih style socialism, and a lot of other stuff.

[Saint-Just]

Originally posted by Misodoctakleidist+Jan 21 2004, 08:40 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Misodoctakleidist @ Jan 21 2004, 08:40 PM)
Chairman [email protected] 21 2004, 04:43 PM
We were under the impression you were British, in which case you would have had the choice to study politics in your current year. I would have thought the same opportunities may exist in the U.S. in the last two years of high school.
I thought he was australian. [/b]
You are probably right. I just assumed he was American because he talked about &#39;high-school&#39;.

[Hitman47]

Originally posted by Guerilla22+Jan 21 2004, 08:03 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Guerilla22 @ Jan 21 2004, 08:03 PM)
Originally posted by [email protected] 21 2004, 10:21 AM

Originally posted by [email protected] 21 2004, 06:55 AM

comrade [email protected] 20 2004, 11:17 AM
Im doing year 12 now and will finish this year. I have been looking into political science and it seems interesting at hte subjects i will learn, i would like to here people&#39;s opinions and comments who are doing this course or ahve down it like is it hard, lots of study etc etc.
Wow&#33; 12 years. I wish I had your determination. I&#39;m on my second year and I&#39;m majoring in Latin American politics at Western Michigan University. I hope to specialize in guerilla insurgencies for my masters. I hope to go to either Georgetown or John Hopkins for grad school, but I would like to travel through Latin America a little more before then. So far I&#39;ve only been to Mexico and Guatemala.
hey thats where i want to go right after high school&#33;&#33; Johns Hopkins :D


Is there any opportuntities in Political Science that would lead to non-capitalist sorta of stuff? :P
Well I gotta warn you that both Johns Hopkins and Georgetown (the two best politcal science schools in the nation) are inhabited by large hordes of conservatives. It&#39;s tough to get past the American capitalist ideology, but I&#39;m sure you will be able to find a group of like thinking students to hang around with. I have.

I really don&#39;t study US economic theory and policy at all, because I&#39;m majoring in Latin American politics ( I only study the adverse affect US economic policy has on other nations.) Hopkins has more graduate programs than under grad programs and it is home to the School of Advance International Studies, the same school a very large number of current government officials went to. Georgetown is home to the School of Foreign Service, which a lot of State Department and CIA employees have went ot, should you wanna go that route. [/b]
Ok :o

What kind of stuff does someone do in political science? I want to be clear on what it is ;)

I for one enjoy history, but the thing that draws back is my shyness, but my parents say it will go away when i get older :unsure:


And also, what about a psychology major?

[redstar2000]

For what it&#39;s worth, I think history is a far more useful major to anyone interested in revolutionary politics than political science, particularly 19th and 20th century history, of course.

http://anarchist-action.org/forums/images/smiles/redstar.gif

The RedStar2000 Papers (http://www.anarchist-action.org/marxists/redstar2000/)
A site about communist ideas

[Hitman47]

Originally posted by [email protected] 22 2004, 02:42 AM
For what it&#39;s worth, I think history is a far more useful major to anyone interested in revolutionary politics than political science, particularly 19th and 20th century history, of course.

http://anarchist-action.org/forums/images/smiles/redstar.gif

The RedStar2000 Papers (http://www.anarchist-action.org/marxists/redstar2000/)
A site about communist ideas
and what kind of careers can spark out of a history major?


i don&#39;t want to be a professor :lol:

[Don't Change Your Name]

I am interested in this carreer, however i don&#39;t know what&#39;s a typical job for someone who has a degree en political sciences.

What does someone who studied political sciences do for a living?

Please someone answer that. So far I know you can get jobs as teacher, or in companies, or in state jobs, but those jobs don&#39;t attract me at all. Well, teaching is not that bad.

[Yazman]

Originally posted by Hitman47+Jan 22 2004, 04:25 AM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Hitman47 @ Jan 22 2004, 04:25 AM)
[email protected] 22 2004, 02:42 AM
For what it&#39;s worth, I think history is a far more useful major to anyone interested in revolutionary politics than political science, particularly 19th and 20th century history, of course.

http://anarchist-action.org/forums/images/smiles/redstar.gif

The RedStar2000 Papers (http://www.anarchist-action.org/marxists/redstar2000/)
A site about communist ideas
and what kind of careers can spark out of a history major?


i don&#39;t want to be a professor :lol: [/b]
Well maybe comrade Redstar is referring to people actually interested in the revolution, rather than people who are interested in their "career" so they can live nicely within the capitalist system and help it to grow?

[redstar2000]

Well maybe comrade Redstar is referring to people actually interested in the revolution, rather than people who are interested in their "career" so they can live nicely within the capitalist system and help it to grow?

Yes, that&#39;s about the size of it. If you want to make money, I&#39;m not the guy to ask. :lol:

Unless you are already in the upper middle class or higher--that is, your parents can afford to pay cash for tuition in a prestigious university--the most advantageous "life plan" is probably to become a skilled craftsman...a plumber or an electrician. The working conditions are pretty tough (at times)...but the money is excellent.

When working class kids manage to attend a university and get an undergraduate degree in the "humanities", they find themselves in a real dilemma. They don&#39;t have the "network" of upper class contacts that are required to get the "good jobs"...so they usually end up with the intellectual equivalent of ditch-digging or casual labor.

I knew a cab driver in San Francisco with a PhD in philosophy...he pointed out the obvious fact that no one hires working class philosophers.

A degree in the real sciences--political "science" is not a science--is much more useful because competence weighs more heavily in the job market. But you have to be really good...there are people right now with PhD&#39;s in particle physics who are peddling junk bonds on Wall Street. They do ok financially--there&#39;s a sucker born every minute and all that--but it must feel pretty sad for them that they can&#39;t ever do what they trained themselves to do.

Capitalism is a harsh master...and "good options" are few and far between.

http://anarchist-action.org/forums/images/smiles/redstar.gif

The RedStar2000 Papers (http://www.anarchist-action.org/marxists/redstar2000/)
A site about communist ideas

[Hitman47]

Originally posted by Yazman+Jan 22 2004, 06:09 AM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Yazman @ Jan 22 2004, 06:09 AM)
Originally posted by [email protected] 22 2004, 04:25 AM

[email protected] 22 2004, 02:42 AM
For what it&#39;s worth, I think history is a far more useful major to anyone interested in revolutionary politics than political science, particularly 19th and 20th century history, of course.

http://anarchist-action.org/forums/images/smiles/redstar.gif

The RedStar2000 Papers (http://www.anarchist-action.org/marxists/redstar2000/)
A site about communist ideas
and what kind of careers can spark out of a history major?


i don&#39;t want to be a professor :lol:
Well maybe comrade Redstar is referring to people actually interested in the revolution, rather than people who are interested in their "career" so they can live nicely within the capitalist system and help it to grow? [/b]
hehehehe... I want to be in the revolution but where should i start ;)


My parents are against it, because i&#39;ll be another fuckup getting killed by the CIA ;) :rolleyes:

but anyways what do u believe?

Should i leave capitalism ?

[Hiero]

Yes im from australin and i have noticed that alot of people on tv new when being interviewed about a situation in politics or anyhting under the name they have the tittle political sceince, Also on the UNI site when looking at political science topics we will be learning it had jobs for political sceince and some were international lawyer, advisory and some more stuff.

[Monty Cantsin]

Comrade neonate I’m from Australia and I’m in year 12 now, I also want to do political science. Where would you like to attend?

[Knowledge 6 6 6]

University poli-sci is amazing. Here in Toronto we did an entire term (sept - december) on Nazism. This term (January - April) we&#39;re doing globalization, and are talking alot about revolutionaries who tried to stop America&#39;s quest for global dominance (not to steal a line from Chomsky, hah).

Guevara&#39;s yet to be mentioned, but I&#39;m sure he will be in the near future.

[Hiero]

euripidies I iwill be doing it at either newcastle but im not sure if they have it or armidale. I will send a pm to you with msn email so you can add me if you want.

[amarulj4714]

Originally posted by [email protected] 21 2004, 06:55 AM
Wow&#33; 12 years. I wish I had your determination. I&#39;m on my second year .. at Western Michigan University.
uhhh...don&#39;t know if you realize this, but those &#39;other&#39; forms of english, &#39;years&#39; means &#39;grade&#39;.

[Zanzibar]

Quite boring. You sit around and argue with clueless bourgeouise scum who are privilleged enough to waste money at university and buy a degree. Though writing is rather fun, and if you have a lefty proff it&#39;s all the better.

Some of my better moments in political science were after class. When the few leftists stick around and tak with the proff.

Mainly you will be annoyed by the Liberal/Conservative scum though.

[STI]

I&#39;m hoping to take political science at Laurentian University (in Sudbury, Ontario). Afterward, I&#39;d like to go to teachers&#39; college and teach social sciences/humanities at the high school level.