Black Students Arrested While Waiting For Bus

[tachosomoza]

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/12/02/teens-arrested-after-waiting-for-bus_n_4372708.html


Three high school teens in Rochester, N.Y., were arrested while they waited for a bus, but authorities claimed the trio was obstructing the flow of other pedestrians on the sidewalk.
On Wednesday morning, Raliek Redd, 16, Wan'Tauhjs Weathers 17, and Daequon Carelock, 16, said they were cuffed before they could board a school bus to a basketball game, according to WHEC. (http://www.whec.com/news/stories/S3231210.shtml)
"We tried to tell them that we were waiting for the bus," Weathers told the station. "We weren't catching a city bus, we were catching a yellow bus. He didn't care. He arrested us anyways."
The Rochester Police did not immediately return a call for comment from The Huffington Post. But a police report (http://www.rochesterhomepage.net/story/coach-defends-students-arrested-at-bus-stop/d/story/Yc6H5TSM7USEttdWpshzIQ) obtained by Rochester Homepage said the teens, who attend Edison Tech, were obstructing "pedestrian traffic while standing on a public sidewalk...preventing free passage of citizens walking by and attempting to enter and exit a store."
The report also said the officer who arrested the teens made "clear and concise orders for the group to disperse and leave the area without compliance."
The teens were apprehended in a part of downtown Rochester where business owners have complained about teens loitering and fighting near their stores.
The boys' coach, Jacob Scott unsuccessfully tried to convince the officers to let the players off the hook.
He said an officer told him, "If you don't disperse, you're going to get booked as well,'" Scott said. "I said, 'Sir, I'm the adult. I'm their varsity basketball coach. How can you book me? What am I doing wrong? Matter of fact, what are these guys doing wrong?'"
The teens face disorderly conduct charges, according to a previous report (http://www.rochesterhomepage.net/story/three-edison-tech-students-arrested-for-disorderly/d/story/CPzaYjvL0EmTFIQSaIR19g) by Rochester Homepage.


Drive a car, get arrested for driving while black. Wait for the bus, get arrested for "disorderly conduct". Guess it's rickshaws now.

[Sinister Intents]

This is fucked up, police officers are fools. Fuck the Police. I fucking hate reading about police doing this kind of shit. It reminds me that a police officer pulled my cousin over just because he was black and gave him a ticket as well as arrest him for 'resisting arrest' which he wasn't doing at all. He got fucking tased and carted off to the station.

[Flying Purple People Eater]

How is this so downplayed in American politics?

I mean, not even fucking Jewish groups under anti-semitic Europe got this level of abuse. It's almost like a fucking white-supremacist prison. You can get stopped, verbally and physically abused, threatened, arrested and even thrown in jail for just existing! Because you have a higher gradient of melanin in your skin! Shit like this makes me so fucking angry.

[tachosomoza]

How is this so downplayed in American politics?

I mean, not even fucking Jewish groups under anti-semitic Europe got this level of abuse. It's almost like a fucking white-supremacist prison. You can get stopped, verbally and physically abused, threatened, arrested and even thrown in jail for just existing! Because you have a higher gradient of melanin in your skin! Shit like this makes me so fucking angry.

Well, blacks haven't been herded off to extermination camps just yet.

[Sinister Intents]

Well, blacks haven't been herded off to extermination camps just yet.

I fear of those things happening, most likely they'll go after the leftists first before they go after those they consider sub human or what ever the fuck they say. Direct action needs to be taken which I'd willngly do to help prevent this bullshit from happening.

[Flying Purple People Eater]

Well, blacks haven't been herded off to extermination camps just yet.

When I said anti-semitic Europe, I didn't mean Nazi Germany or inquisition Spain. Sorry, should've clarified.

But yeah, if you put the treatment of african-Americans in the US in comparison to the treatment of Jews in the Italian city states, the similarities are striking. Hell, I'd even say that treatment is even worse.

[Sea]

Well, blacks haven't been herded off to extermination camps just yet.Yeah, they have:

http://www.project.org/images/graphs/Inprisonment_Rates.jpg

[Flying Purple People Eater]

^ Not to mention that 90% of all people arrested for marijuana-related crime in America are African American, despite the fact that the Marijuana-smoking African-American population is less than 9% of the total American Marijuana-smoking population (basically a third of the entire country's population). Speaks volumes.

[Jimmie Higgins]

Rochester pd seems pretty awful even from a u.s. Perspective... Even from someone whose see Oakland and lapd cops in action. If you go on YouTube there are a whole bunch of videos of cops out there arresting people for fuck all. One video was of cops pulling a middle aged black man out of his wheelchair for loitering or something. I don't remember the whole story, but I think the guy is a minister in a church and on dialysis!

At the same time that I read about this story in the o.p., there was a story in Houston about a high school girl who was traveling with a dance instructor to a competition and the cops arrested the instructor and put the girl in protective services even though the instructor had a guardianship permission form from the girl's parents... The important detail (that was hard to tell from the story in the news) was that the instructor is a black guy and the girl is a blonde white kid... Obviously it must be kidnapping:rolleyes:

Of course the comments in the news story were in defense of the cops and people were applauding them for being vigilant even if they were mistaken. Ugh. Racial profiling is thousands of times more common than stranger-kidnappings and most kidnappings are from family members, so likely if she had been kidnapped by a relative (or some random white guy) the cops wouldn't have even thought to look twice.

[Flying Purple People Eater]

Rochester pd seems pretty awful even from a u.s. Perspective... Even from someone whose see Oakland and lapd cops in action. If you go on YouTube there are a whole bunch of videos of cops out there arresting people for fuck all. One video was of cops pulling a middle aged black man out of his wheelchair for loitering or something. I don't remember the whole story, but I think the guy is a minister in a church and on dialysis!

At the same time that I read about this story in the o.p., there was a story in Houston about a high school girl who was traveling with a dance instructor to a competition and the cops arrested the instructor and put the girl in protective services even though the instructor had a guardianship permission form from the girl's parents... The important detail (that was hard to tell from the story in the news) was that the instructor is a black guy and the girl is a blonde white kid... Obviously it must be kidnapping:rolleyes:


Of course the comments in the news story were in defense of the cops and people were applauding them for being vigilant even if they were mistaken. Ugh. Racial profiling is thousands of times more common than stranger-kidnappings and most kidnappings are from family members, so likely if she had been kidnapped by a relative (or some random white guy) the cops wouldn't have even thought to look twice.

What the fuck!?

If that happened here and the police were not stripped of their jobs and/or jailed for it, there'd be fucking riots! How on earth can they get away with this?

I mean, when I was a child, I'd heard about there being racism in the US, but I had absolutely no idea it was at this level.

[Jimmie Higgins]

What the fuck!?

If that happened here and the police were not stripped of their jobs and/or jailed for it, there'd be fucking riots! How on earth can they get away with this?

I mean, when I was a child, I'd heard about there being racism in the US, but I had absolutely no idea it was at this level.depending on how old you are.... Racism might not have been this bad... At least this current system of racial control through policing. It basically began in the 70s and gained credibility in the 80s, but really took off in the 90s when "tough on crime" became bi-partisan orthodoxy. In the 70s, mainstream academics and political wonks talked about how the prison system would be obsolete in a matter of years and in the early 80s even police chiefs were balking at the new emphasis for drug policing coming from the federal government. Now it's all institutionalized and has been repeatedly sanctioned by the Supreme Court. I think the stop and frisk stuff has brought a little renewed heat and attention to the racism of the policing system in cities, but without real challenges from the outside, there's not much that can be done legally. If a renewed civil rights movement were to organize, it would have to take on these issues which also means that the politics of such a movement would have more consciousness about class. It would also be difficult compared to the civil rights movement of the us south, because it would be taking on capitalism in the us in a more direct way (us capitalism in the neoliberal era needs this control whereas post-war us capitalism didn't need the marginal rural elites who were the biggest backers of Jim Crow) even though on the other hand overt racist sentiment in the general population is nothing like it would have been back in the 50s or 60s.

Also, here's the link to that story out of Houston:
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/12/02/landry-thompson_n_4372573.html

[consuming negativity]

Yeah, they have:



IIRC, one in every three black males in America will be incarcerated within their lifetime. The statistics are absolutely staggering; especially given the popular nation/how things tend to be thought of and/or portrayed. That's a fantastic graph, though. It looks like black males are incarcerated at 2-3 times the rate of hispanic males, and about... 8 times the rate of white males? Even the black females are incarcerated at similar rates in comparison to white and hispanic females. :cursing:

[MelaninKing]

Yes they are imprisoned for no reason A black person can not commit a crime only society can commit crimes on black people Segregation never ended

[RedWaves]

The police will still have a job tomorrow. This type of stuff is not only bad, but it's encouraged and liked. You have to keep the white people safe right?

Just look at those TV shows and the stereotypes of black people as criminals. It's that type of stuff that is sunk into their brains after years of indoctrination.

This type of stuff happens all the time everyday.

[RedWaves]

IIRC, one in every three black males in America will be incarcerated within their lifetime. The statistics are absolutely staggering; especially given the popular nation/how things tend to be thought of and/or portrayed. That's a fantastic graph, though. It looks like black males are incarcerated at 2-3 times the rate of hispanic males, and about... 8 times the rate of white males? Even the black females are incarcerated at similar rates in comparison to white and hispanic females. :cursing:


America is still very fucking racist. Weather they want to acknowledge it or deny it, it's a fact. These statistics prove it time and time again.

I've seen white people barely get 10 months for meth, while a black man can easily get 5 years for crack.


The war on drugs is another thing with incarcerating rates and targeting minorities but that's a whole other subject, yet it plays hand in hand with the prison industrial complex.

[Trap Queen Voxxy]

Well, blacks haven't been herded off to extermination camps just yet.

Actually, the two are more comparable than you might think. In addition to what others have said, the US has had a long sordid history of medical experimentation on blacks similar to those performed on Jews under the Nazis (eg; Tuskegee Syphilis experiment).

[RedWaves]

Actually, the two are more comparable than you might think. In addition to what others have said, the US has had a long sordid history of medical experimentation on blacks similar to those performed on Jews under the Nazis (eg; Tuskegee Syphilis experiment).


Don't forget crack cocaine, the aids outbreak, gangland violence.


There's a reason drug infestations spark in black communities rather than white neighborhoods.


The way the crack cocaine boom was handled in L.A. showed the CIA's true colors. Even before that you can trace the heroin outbreak to the black communities. I would recommend Dark Alliance by Gary Webb as it shows how the CIA created the crack boom in L.A. and built Ricky Ross into a drug lord while the infestation ruined so many communities. There are some really good documentaries out there about Freeway Ricky, and how it all links to the prison industrial complex and so forth.


I'm pretty sure there was a quote in the Godfather movie about selling H to the ghettos where the blacks are because 'they are animals, I don't want that on my streets'

[BlackFlag]

This is getting over the top.
We need more anti-racist campaigns, this has gotten way too far. Before we know it, all the progress will start to go backwards and we'll have another Rodney King.

[Aleister Granger]

This is getting over the top.
We need more anti-racist campaigns, this has gotten way too far. Before we know it, all the progress will start to go backwards and we'll have another Rodney King.

I've been raising this issue involving the whole Duck Dynasty thing. People keep saying to ignore it, but they keep themselves ignoring the fact that the Right is looking for any sort of excuse to push their so-called "Anti-liberal" doctrines back into mainstream American politics. I think that, in the latter 2010s and 2020s, it will be considered "offensive to conservatives" to bring up issues of racism because activists like the NAACP and "the 'liberal' media" so overused the term in previous decades.
In other words, when actually trying to combat racism, you will offend racists. And because the Left is sitting on its ass right now, this is basically going to be the future of American society.

[the debater]

In the meantime, I wonder slightly if perhaps a temporary solution for black students to avoid getting arrested would be to dress like nerds? Have really big glasses, looking really "dorky?" I don't know, I'm just throwing random stuff out there. Then again, that probably didn't work for the dance instructor. Ah, who knows.

This just goes to show how lucky people like me are, who get born into middle-class families and live in stable subdivision neighborhoods. I get to go to a good high school with qualified teachers, no drug gangs lurking around, no poverty, a stably family, I mean, it's a pretty good deal.

[tachosomoza]

In the meantime, I wonder slightly if perhaps a temporary solution for black students to avoid getting arrested would be to dress like nerds? Have really big glasses, looking really "dorky?" I don't know, I'm just throwing random stuff out there. Then again, that probably didn't work for the dance instructor. Ah, who knows.

This just goes to show how lucky people like me are, who get born into middle-class families and live in stable subdivision neighborhoods. I get to go to a good high school with qualified teachers, no drug gangs lurking around, no poverty, a stably family, I mean, it's a pretty good deal.

Yeah, nobody should have to concede and bow to avoid people fucking with them. They can dress however they want and are entitled to not be fucked with.

[BIXX]

I've been avoiding looking at this thread cause I knew I would get pissed off. Fuck the police.

[Sea]

I've been avoiding looking at this thread cause I knew I would get pissed off. Fuck the police.It just keeps popping up as the last post in Discrimination on the front page. You can never make it leave.

[Jimmie Higgins]

Don't forget crack cocaine, the aids outbreak, gangland violence.


There's a reason drug infestations spark in black communities rather than white neighborhoods.


The way the crack cocaine boom was handled in L.A. showed the CIA's true colors. Even before that you can trace the heroin outbreak to the black communities. I would recommend Dark Alliance by Gary Webb as it shows how the CIA created the crack boom in L.A. and built Ricky Ross into a drug lord while the infestation ruined so many communities. There are some really good documentaries out there about Freeway Ricky, and how it all links to the prison industrial complex and so forth.


I'm pretty sure there was a quote in the Godfather movie about selling H to the ghettos where the blacks are because 'they are animals, I don't want that on my streets'
I don't know, but I don't think this is true. First of all white people are the biggest users of drugs in the u.s. and by proportion, drug use is pretty similar among racial and class demographics, though the drugs of choice can be different (rich people do more hard drugs, workers do more Pharms and weed).

Black gangs didn't sell drugs until the 80s and it was seen as counter posed to bangin' and often local street gangs would try and push the dealers and pimps out of their neighborhood. Most gang members got jobs and homes and didn't battle on the streets past their teen years. What changed was that industries and social services left urban areas and black blue collar males were hit hardest. That made selling drugs and a precarious existence possible as a "job" when you couldn't have a steady job with security and hope for a future. Banging and slanging became synthesized and pre-drug beefs had been deadly, the drug trade created an arms war which increased both economically motivated drug violence and the regular beef type gang set violence explode.

Meth and oxy are part of a similar dynamic now among white rust belt workers who are facing similar situations as urban industry in the late 70s.

I'm sure the CIA has done some shit and doesn't care about black workers, but I don't think there was a large conspiracy, I think the violence and drugs are side effects of the real and open conspiracy for rich people to make money off of workers even when it means leaving communities to rot and suffer and so people turn to drugs or alcohol for relief and other people find the black market as a viable alternative to joblessness or underemployment.

[L.A.P.]

Wow, it's so weird to see this coming up so much lately from the homeland. I've always known there to be an attitude in the Rochester area that's so fearful of urban Rochester. After Xerox and Kodak went downhill, most of the City's population migrated to the suburbs to work clerical jobs. There's actually not that many people that live in the City of Rochester except the lowest stratum of the black working class and permanently unemployed for the most part, and they're treated like an excess feeding off the "productive" suburban and rural population.

Rust belt, man

[Psycho P and the Freight Train]

This is seriously depressing. Makes you wonder how often this really does happen when it doesn't get reported in the media.

[AmilcarCabral]

Wait, and there is a lot more than just black people being arrested for doing nothing. The other day i heard in an MP3 audio speech of Bob Avakian, the leader of the revolutionary communist party of the USA http://www.bobavakian.net that in America there is this habit of black parents, to not encourage their young sons to get into weight training and power lifting. In other words what Bob Avakian was saying is that mothers and parents with black kids are scared that their young sons, might get too physically powerful and big, because then they would be more noticable to the police cars, to the policemen, who psychologically intimidate and psychollogically terrorize the neighborhoods of poor families.

What kind of country is this? A country where even being too physically powerful is not allowed. No wonder I have never seen black people jogging, running and exercising in the sidewalks in many cities of USA because they are scared that they might be killed the same way Trayvon Martin was killed just for walking in the streets.

And since USA is a lot more dictatorial and repressive today after 9-11, than in the 1980s and 1990s, another thing i haven't seen is young people wearing metal t-shirts, and people with t-shirts making a political statement. All these ultra-repressive totalitarian measures of US government after 9-11 is one of the main causes of why people are morphing into sedated, scared, paranoid, neurotic, mute people, who are even scared of talking outloud in public areas.

But I think that the US government is about 60% to blame for these repressive measures and the majority of people who are victims of these repressive measures, like TSA agents at airports, police cars terrorizing neighborhoods, spying on phone calls etc. are about 40% to blame for supporting the 2 political parties that are doing this (The Democratic Party and the republican party), and even progressives are to blame for being so stupid and so naive in the thinking that if they support Elizabeth Warren, Dennis Kucinich, Jesse Jackson, Al Sharpton, Bernie Sanders and other liberal progressive politicians of the democratic party all this would change.

I don't know why even many progressives of USA are so glued, so attached, to addicted, so married with the democratic party. Supporting Jesse Jackson and Bernie Sanders (Who are members of a mafia cartel) as a solution for USA. Is like supporting a member of any drug smuggling cartel who hasn't killed anybody.

I don't know why americans do not think more rationally, and why americans think so emotionally when choosing and voting for politicians. It's like they are so emotionally in love with the liberal icons of The Democratic Party, that there is no way for them to get a total divorce from their favorite liberal progressive politicians of the Democratic Party. To hate the whole democratic party along with its liberal trade unions (Like ACLU) to throw them in a trash can of history. And to look for new alternatives, totally new parties.

Martin Luther King was correct when he said: When the oppressed supports his oppressor exploiter, he becomes more evil than his oppressor-exploiter !!

So a large percentage of the US adult population is to blame for the powerful life, the powerful popularity of The Democratic Party and the republican party, and for the power of the national police departments of the whole USA to abuse and kill poor blacks, poor latinos and other poor oppressed sectors of the nation like homeless people. Remember that many oppressed blacks in America still support Obama, and even if they are ignorant about how the game of politics works in USA, they are still to blame for their unconditionaly loyalty to Obama who is as repressive as Bush is !!



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This is fucked up, police officers are fools. Fuck the Police. I fucking hate reading about police doing this kind of shit. It reminds me that a police officer pulled my cousin over just because he was black and gave him a ticket as well as arrest him for 'resisting arrest' which he wasn't doing at all. He got fucking tased and carted off to the station.