Struggle for the recognition of the Armenian Genocide

[JudasMaiden]

The genocide of Armenians has only been recognized by 21 countries and 43 states in the United states of America.
List of Countries that currently recognize the genocide(According to Wikipedia):
Argentina
Armenia
Belgium
Canada
Chile
Cyprus
France
Germany
Greece
Italy
Lithuania
Lebanon
The Netherlands
Poland
Russia
Slovakia
Sweden
Switzerland
Uruguay
Holy See
Venezuela

These states in the United States of America do not recognize the Armenian genocide:
Alabama
Mississippi
West Virginia
Indiana
Iowa
Wyoming
South Dakota

I fucking literally cried while posting this, even through I am not Armenian at all, I have huge sympathy for the Armenians and how Turkey still denies their fucking crimes. I never really cry in my entire life to be honest, even if I get injured literally, but this literally angers me to the fucking core, that so much countries deny the genocide that it makes me want to start a fucking riot much more violent than the fucking watts riots of 1965 to have the genocide recognized by the United States, let fucking alone all other countries that don't recognize it. I fucking don't want to use violence in order to gain recognition of the Armenian genocide.

Tell us of tactics that could get the country you live in to recognize the Armenian Genocide other than signing online petitions (through signing online petitions can help).

[Flying Purple People Eater]

How can they not recognise the Armenian Genocide? Of course with Turkey and Azerbaijan I can understand the reasons behind the denial, what with the myopic nationalism of the government and all, but why Mississippi? Is their verdict that 1.5 million people just decided to take a holiday in the Caucasus and never came back?

[Devrim]

What does it matter if states recognize the Armenian genocide or not? Why should we campaign to make do so?

I think that the Armenian genocide did happen, and I have written articles referring to it in Turkish communist publications, which is technically a crime.

What is it to communists if certain states do or do not recognize it though?

Devrim

[JudasMaiden]

What does it matter if states recognize the Armenian genocide or not? Why should we campaign to make do so?

I think that the Armenian genocide did happen, and I have written articles referring to it in Turkish communist publications, which is technically a crime.

What is it to communists if certain states do or do not recognize it though?

Devrim

Turkey should forgive what it's previous state, the Ottoman empire did to it's population of Armenians. But shouldn't we discuss tactics on how to get the genocide recognized.
By your logic, Germany should not recognize the holocaust or Rwanda should not recognize it's genocide of Tutsis.

[Devrim]

Turkey should forgive what it's previous state, the Ottoman empire did to it's population of Armenians. But shouldn't we discuss tactics on how to get the genocide recognized.
By your logic, Germany should not recognize the holocaust or Rwanda should not recognize it's genocide of Tutsis.

Well you start the OP by talking about the states around the world that recognise the Armenian genocide. Talking about recognising the Armenian genocide in Turkey is different from talking about it in the US. Turkey doesn't just not recognise the Armenian genocide, it actively denies it, and to state that it happened can be interpreted as a crime under article 301 of the Turkish penal code.

You could construct an argument that says it is important to raise this recognition in Turkey, but I don't see how it is even relevant at all in various US states. There it is basically a power struggle between the Armenian and Turkish lobbies, and how many votes they can pull behind them.

What does this have to do with the working class in Wyoming? Also if you are campaigning to recognise this genocide where are you going to stop, the Bulgaria genocide, the Pontic genocide, the Syriac genocide, the Kurdish genocide...? Note that I only used examples there from late Ottoman history if you extended it to the world you could have a lifetime's work ahead of you.

The real question is though whether it is important to communists if bourgeois states 'recognise' these acts of genocide. You have yet to explain why you think it is.

Devrim

[Alexios]

lol, what difference would it make if Alabama recognized the Armenian Genocide? What interest do Alabamans have in that? I know it sounds harsh, but the majority of Americans don't care about something that happened a century ago on the other side of the world. The US doesn't even have significant Turkish and Armenian populations.

[ckaihatsu]

The Armenian Genocide:
An Open Wound

Sungur Savran

http://www.socialistproject.ca/bullet/1109.php