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Greek Warrior

21st November 2013, 13:29

Hello comerades!
I am very glad to meet you.
Greetings from Greece!
Please excuse any English mistakes that I might make.

Alonso Quijano

21st November 2013, 18:02

21st November 2013, 19:33

Comrade Jacob

21st November 2013, 20:52

Hello comrade, if any European country has the greatest change of a socialist revolution it is Greece. (and fascist too).

Greek Warrior

23rd November 2013, 19:02

Welcome Comrade.

In my opinion the biggest battle of communism and capitalism takes place in Greece right now... Would you care to share your perspective on your country's politics?

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Absolute Horror
1,500,000 unemployed people in Greece (28% as of June 2013)
325,000 homes with no electricity (November 2013)
40,000 people homeless (November 2013)
3 suicides per day
Neo - Nazi party has entered parliament
Innocent people are being terrorized, blackmailed, beaten, killed by Neo - Nazis, capitalists and cops
Public Healthcare system is totally rundown
Schools, Technological Educational Institutes and Universities are rundown
Wages and pensions are falling
We have to pay huge unbearable taxes for literally EVERYTHING
A worker gets 500 euros per month, whereas a Member of Parliament gets 4,500 - 8,200 per month
I can't understand why people of my country don't make a revolution.
Maybe because the Communist Party is not doing things properly.

Greek Warrior

30th November 2013, 19:55

Welcome :)

If you have political questions, you can ask them in the Learning forum. That's why it's there after all!

If you have questions about your account, don't hesitate to send me a PM or ask here.

What are your political ideas, if any noteworthy? Also, what' s the left like in your city/region?
I am a communist patriot.
I am a supporter of Castro, Ho, Tito, Chavez (have a look at my album)
In my region the left is not doing very good, but it is getting constantly better.

Skyhilist

30th November 2013, 20:15

I am a communist patriot.

That's impossible because communism is opposed to nationalism and patriotism.

Greek Warrior

30th November 2013, 22:16

That's impossible because communism is opposed to nationalism and patriotism.
If you were Greek, you would understand.

Greek Warrior

30th November 2013, 22:20

That's impossible because communism is opposed to nationalism and patriotism.
Nationalism and patriotism are totally different.
A nationalist is someone who thinks his nation is superior to other nations.
A patriot is someone who protects his homeland from imperialists.

1st December 2013, 07:39

Nationalism and patriotism are totally different.
A nationalist is someone who thinks his nation is superior to other nations.
A patriot is someone who protects his homeland from imperialists.
Both start from the premise that there is a nation that "we all share" between classes. A patriot is therefore not something that can be united with being a communist as communists recognise that the "main enemy is at home".

servusmoderni

1st December 2013, 08:09

Welcome comrade! I have great respect for the greek comrades who stand against Golden Dawn.

Remus Bleys

1st December 2013, 08:10

Nationalism and patriotism are totally different lol.
They are different words, therefore they mean different things! No communist can be a patriot. I don't care what Lenin said - he was wrong.

Greek Warrior

1st December 2013, 20:02

Both start from the premise that there is a nation that "we all share" between classes. A patriot is therefore not something that can be united with being a communist as communists recognise that the "main enemy is at home".
The main enemy is at home, of course. And the homeland must belong to the proleteriat, not to the bourgeois.
I suppose we have different opinions on what the word "patriot" means.
In my country, during the German occupation, communist fighters defined themselves as communist patriots.

Greek Warrior

1st December 2013, 20:04

Nationalism and patriotism are totally different lol.
They are different words, therefore they mean different things! No communist can be a patriot. I don't care what Lenin said - he was wrong.
Everyone has his own opinion.
Let a hundred flowers bloom and a thousand schools of thought contend.

Communist-USSR

1st December 2013, 21:00

Welcome!
Are you a member of the KKE or any other communist party?

Sea

1st December 2013, 21:44

Everyone has his own opinion.
Let a hundred flowers bloom and a thousand schools of thought contend.No. We should not let bourgeois deviations, especially on important questions like nationalism, be tolerated. To let "a thousand schools of thought contend" is an affront to the goal of establishing a correct party line, because, for every thousand schools of thought, there are 999 incorrect ideas and one correct one. We must work hard to figure out what the correct one is, and in so doing we must admit our mistakes.

We cannot be correct if we do not actively stomp out concepts and opinions that are incorrect.

Give this a read:

https://www.marxists.org/reference/archive/mao/selected-works/volume-2/mswv2_03.htm

2nd December 2013, 07:08

No. We should not let bourgeois deviations, especially on important questions like nationalism, be tolerated. To let "a thousand schools of thought contend" is an affront to the goal of establishing a correct party line, because, for every thousand schools of thought, there are 999 incorrect ideas and one correct one. We must work hard to figure out what the correct one is, and in so doing we must admit our mistakes.

We cannot be correct if we do not actively stomp out concepts and opinions that are incorrect.

Give this a read:

https://www.marxists.org/reference/archive/mao/selected-works/volume-2/mswv2_03.htm
The process to correctness is that, a process. The concept of the "correct position" as a timeless thing is anti-scientific. We need open debate to achieve unity in action and a collective insight into reality. So yes, argue and counter because not to do so would hurt the collective.

That said, I agree with you on the anti-nationalism part.

Yuppie Grinder

2nd December 2013, 07:12

If you were Greek, you would understand.

I do understand, and empathize, but I still respectfully disagree. When someone sees their homeland that they've identified with all their life fall into crisis it typically inspires a feeling of defiant pride in them. The problem is, the workers of the world have no country, and part of revolutionary consciousness is ceasing to identify with your nation over your class.
None the less, I understand your feelings towards your own country.
Welcome to the forum.

Greek Warrior

2nd December 2013, 09:43

Welcome!
Are you a member of the KKE or any other communist party?
I am a member of the KKE although I am not a really active member.

reb

2nd December 2013, 10:26

Nationalism and patriotism are totally different.
A nationalist is someone who thinks his nation is superior to other nations.
A patriot is someone who protects his homeland from imperialists.

You can twist words all you want but nationalism and patriotism are the same thing, they are synonyms for each other. You can't be a patriot without being a nationalist.