Alonso Quijano
16th November 2013, 13:15
Sorry all for new topic,
I'm getting more and more intersted in this crisis right here next to home. This crisis that proves that Capitalism can shit all over you even if you're white and European, and live close - and then it'll still blame it on you.
I'm very happy to sea the left is getting stronger. SYRIZA seem to me like a worthy party. What do the greek here think, and can tell me about it?
Is there any other way other than default?
A Socialist International could try some people here charged with crimes against humanity. What the bankers and capitalists did to the Greek people was inhumane. No exaggerations here. They never had a platform they believed in, only cared about getting some money out of it. Never thinking about the homeless mother, the starving son, the father sleeping in his car, who can't even see a new alternative. What the EU, and the rest of the world, allowed to happen in Greece, should remind us - no European culture and skin colour will ever make us safe from them.
Now I just try to think about how they can get out of this hell. Any other option than default, than? Is it really so bad? Is there a way to avoid it? And is it worth it?
P.S.
I had a Sephardic-Jew family in Greece, my grandma's (she was burn in Turkey) cousins, in the 40s. Yes, there were some racist Greeks. But most Greeks cooperated together with my community, as communists, and helped each other. My community didn't abandon the Christian Greeks, even when they knew they could get deported very soon.
At first when I saw Golden Dawn I thought you had forgot. I know you didn't. Golden Dawn has nothing with Greek history. I'm against nationalism as superiority, I am in favour of using your grandparents as role models, when they deserve it.
I still respect the left that courageously stood by my family in Greece, and hid some Jews when they could. I'm glad you don't let those neo-Nazis re-write history. Sephardic Jews and Greeks are both people with a strong sense of national heritage. But never racist - that's why could easily collaborate together under the Greek flag that time - but NEVER racist. Or at least, never let the racists hijack your tradition and history.
Unlike the stereotype of the area, for Jews the Balkan is one, at least: Greece, Turkey and Bulgaria. I feel my roots there, and in Spain, but not in one place better than the other. After all, we always had cousins on the other side of the border. But appreciated all cultures. Some still define ourselves as "Balkan Sephardi Jews" regarding our history and heritage. Despite sometimes being used as between the wall and a hard place - we saw the beauty of it all. I never lived in Greek, I never usually cared, don't care about Greek football even - but now - It's the most important thing.
I just hope that SYRIZA manages to get Greece out of it, it will stay in control. And be an oppisition to the capitalist regime crawling back.
Also, important call, Greece: IF YOU DEFAULT YOU WAKE BANKS TO NIGHTMARES
You are the responsible ones here. There's no shame to be the first country whose government spends too much while letting its rich evade taxes. You took your fate in your hands, for once.
GREECE SHOULD NOT APOLOGISE
It was badly run - let the ones responsible apologies. And the rich who didn't contribute their part.
The banks? The bank lost all right to talk about "what's right" after sacryficing human life for their way-too-big-capital. Happens to every investor, doesn't it? Who knows, maybe they'll learn not to convince other governments they're invincible from now on.
In it's up for the rest of the left to support them. Occupied by a market they've been trying to free themselves from, for years. And especially fight the dumb stereotype of "lazy workers".
I'm getting more and more intersted in this crisis right here next to home. This crisis that proves that Capitalism can shit all over you even if you're white and European, and live close - and then it'll still blame it on you.
I'm very happy to sea the left is getting stronger. SYRIZA seem to me like a worthy party. What do the greek here think, and can tell me about it?
Is there any other way other than default?
A Socialist International could try some people here charged with crimes against humanity. What the bankers and capitalists did to the Greek people was inhumane. No exaggerations here. They never had a platform they believed in, only cared about getting some money out of it. Never thinking about the homeless mother, the starving son, the father sleeping in his car, who can't even see a new alternative. What the EU, and the rest of the world, allowed to happen in Greece, should remind us - no European culture and skin colour will ever make us safe from them.
Now I just try to think about how they can get out of this hell. Any other option than default, than? Is it really so bad? Is there a way to avoid it? And is it worth it?
P.S.
I had a Sephardic-Jew family in Greece, my grandma's (she was burn in Turkey) cousins, in the 40s. Yes, there were some racist Greeks. But most Greeks cooperated together with my community, as communists, and helped each other. My community didn't abandon the Christian Greeks, even when they knew they could get deported very soon.
At first when I saw Golden Dawn I thought you had forgot. I know you didn't. Golden Dawn has nothing with Greek history. I'm against nationalism as superiority, I am in favour of using your grandparents as role models, when they deserve it.
I still respect the left that courageously stood by my family in Greece, and hid some Jews when they could. I'm glad you don't let those neo-Nazis re-write history. Sephardic Jews and Greeks are both people with a strong sense of national heritage. But never racist - that's why could easily collaborate together under the Greek flag that time - but NEVER racist. Or at least, never let the racists hijack your tradition and history.
Unlike the stereotype of the area, for Jews the Balkan is one, at least: Greece, Turkey and Bulgaria. I feel my roots there, and in Spain, but not in one place better than the other. After all, we always had cousins on the other side of the border. But appreciated all cultures. Some still define ourselves as "Balkan Sephardi Jews" regarding our history and heritage. Despite sometimes being used as between the wall and a hard place - we saw the beauty of it all. I never lived in Greek, I never usually cared, don't care about Greek football even - but now - It's the most important thing.
I just hope that SYRIZA manages to get Greece out of it, it will stay in control. And be an oppisition to the capitalist regime crawling back.
Also, important call, Greece: IF YOU DEFAULT YOU WAKE BANKS TO NIGHTMARES
You are the responsible ones here. There's no shame to be the first country whose government spends too much while letting its rich evade taxes. You took your fate in your hands, for once.
GREECE SHOULD NOT APOLOGISE
It was badly run - let the ones responsible apologies. And the rich who didn't contribute their part.
The banks? The bank lost all right to talk about "what's right" after sacryficing human life for their way-too-big-capital. Happens to every investor, doesn't it? Who knows, maybe they'll learn not to convince other governments they're invincible from now on.
In it's up for the rest of the left to support them. Occupied by a market they've been trying to free themselves from, for years. And especially fight the dumb stereotype of "lazy workers".