Right wing media machine framing obamacare debate, and they're winning.....

[RadioRaheem84]

I figured there would be problems with implementing any piecemeal reform surrounding healthcare and I didn't really support Obama Care but there are some good things that came out of it. I was hoping that it would at least aid the workers that need care most. Instead the insurance companies, who not being content with the deal they made with the administration to get this thing passed through, went ahead and cut coverage to millions of Americans. At least that is what I am reading from the conservative media machine. Is this true?

If so, do these people qualify for Obamacare subsidy? Exactly what is going on? All I see and read in the media whether reactionary or not is that the Obama administration dropped the ball and is now trying to cover their ass.

Why isn't Fox News upset at the private businesses and insurance companies reaction to Obamacare instead of Obamacare itself? Why is the onus always on the government?

Their assault and framing of this issue concerns me that their grasp of events is so hegemonic that there is no way for even a moderate soc dem to ever take root in this country and that we may never see even real reform. Not that I thought Obamacare was a solution over universal health care but that it sucks that even a rickety piece of legislation like this is considered too "socialist".

[Sinister Cultural Marxist]

Basically, as far as right wingers are concerned, whatever businesses do in the market is rational self interest, while workers/unions/the state is corrupt overreach.

Obama made some rhetorical overreaches in his promises though - it was unreasonable for him to promise that nobody would lose their coverage if they liked their plan. The law wasn't really created to ensure for that as he said.

[ckaihatsu]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2Ca0LCSAiPQ

[argeiphontes]

The policies that would have been canceled are those of the 5% who buy their insurance privately. The policies were canceled because they didn't meet the minimum requirements of RomneyCare, and insurance companies tried to upsell more expensive policies to those people, making it seem like people were not only losing insurance, but that prices were increasing drastically. My insurer tried to do this to me.

Nobody is talking about the millions of people who will be eligible for subsidized plans thru the exchange that will only cost them $0 to, say, $100, and actually provide the mandated coverage.

Fox News was recently outed on Salon.com for showing a panel of 3 "regular people" complaining about the ACA, when in reality none of them were subject to any of its changes. For example, the business owner had less than 50 employees so didn't have to offer insurance at all. I can't find the exact link but they have a whole section HERE (http://www.salon.com/topic/obamacare/) debunking the lies.

(I was at the vet's yesterday and heard a joke about ObamaCare. Apparently, even vet techs making $15000/yr have been bamboozled into hating it. I wonder if the vet even provides any health insurance at all? Those jobs are notoriously low-paying and take advantage of people who like animals.)

[ckaihatsu]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gqWDbP4mD_s

[RedWaves]

Right wingers are so fucking dumb. They don't even realize the contradiction of Obamacare. It is going to make profits in the billions for the health companies and big insurance corporations.

Yet they spin this like it's a bad thing. people should have healthcare and food, it's a human right but oh god if we even think about taxing them or taking the money from their yachts to give to the poor.

[La Comédie Noire]

The corporate media is strange in that even though it goes along a right/left spectrum it never criticizes anything the rightwing does, but will always criticize the left (as in the Democrats) , even CNN.

The Democrats don't help themselves, they're so concerned with being politically correct and fair that they'll apologize for everything and compromise on every issue. Partly it's because they have no political end goal or immediate tasks (I'm not sure they'll have the strength to see this healthcare thing through till the end) . There's nothing keeping them going except the urge to be reelected, they have a very short term memory if you'll excuse the pun.

The Republicans on the other hand, backed by economic conservatives, are on a mission. Repeal every amendment after 1865 and abolish every reform won in the New Deal. They're unapologetic when in power and shrill and demanding when out of power.

Also it doesn't help when mainstream economics is the agreed upon paradigm. The Democrats are just unequipped theoretically when battling against equilibrium economics.

[argeiphontes]

The corporate media is strange in that even though it goes along a right/left spectrum it never criticizes anything the rightwing does, but will always criticize the left (as in the Democrats) , even CNN.

MSNBC does. The Ted Cruz and Michelle Bachman bashing can be fun to watch, especially Martin Bashir I must say.