got a job lined up as a bouncer

[RedBen]

it's a decent venue, saw a lot of shows there. might start this weekend. i was also told if i get swung at i can swing back too, hot damn!

[Trap Queen Voxxy]

That's crazy, lol.

[Ethics Gradient, Traitor For All Ages]

Check the actual laws first, don't automatically assume your coworkers actually know what they're talking about. I was acquainted with a loss prevention guy who thought he was allowed to physically restrain people because his coworkers had always told him that was the case. One night he tackles a shoplifter in the parking lot of the store, and in the process gets stabbed with a needle in the guys pocket and gets something nasty, I can't remember what. Anyway, in the end he lost his job because he wasn't actually allowed to do that, and because it was a violation of company policy they wouldn't cover his medical bills resulting from the infection he got from the needle. Oh and he also got charged with assault.

So yeah, make sure first.

[Sasha]

I'm a bouncer too, I don't know how it is over where you are but here you can do legally less than someone of the general public (though the cops turn often a blind eye) as a trained professional (here you need an basic diploma and a police issued license) you can only use appropriate force, if someone runs away or tries to punch you you can restrain them, if someone tries to stab you you can knock him out etc etc. But don't do this work because you like to punch people, one ill placed hit and you kill someone and you spend at least a decade in jail. I do this work now 8 year and I punched last week for the very first time someone seriously. You need a good team, preferably work in at least a 3 man crew and you almost never need to do anything risky. Don't take the gig if you need to fly solo.
Also, like said, cops turn blind eyes, you know why? because they think you are on their team, so you need to be able to fake that, otherwise your bouncer career will be very short. And last but not least, don't do the work fulltime and don't do it too long, its not healthty, its the male equivalent of being a stripper, it does your head in.

[The Feral Underclass]

I know several strippers who would disagree with your assessment of their job.

[RedBen]

I'm a bouncer too, I don't know how it is over where you are but here you can do legally less than someone of the general public (though the cops turn often a blind eye) as a trained professional (here you need an basic diploma and a police issued license) you can only use appropriate force, if someone runs away or tries to punch you you can restrain them, if someone tries to stab you you can knock him out etc etc. But don't do this work because you like to punch people, one ill placed hit and you kill someone and you spend at least a decade in jail. I do this work now 8 year and I punched last week for the very first time someone seriously. You need a good team, preferably work in at least a 3 man crew and you almost never need to do anything risky. Don't take the gig if you need to fly solo.
Also, like said, cops turn blind eyes, you know why? because they think you are on their team, so you need to be able to fake that, otherwise your bouncer career will be very short. And last but not least, don't do the work fulltime and don't do it too long, its not healthty, its the male equivalent of being a stripper, it does your head in.

i'm not wanting to be some dick who shoves people around, i have heard crazy stories about people getting rowdy there though. hell, my guy who works there now was getting thrown out and banned throughout the 80's. some of the guys in my crew worked there. people on that side of town tend not to get out of pocket with us, not because we jump anybody, we just have a reputation of not backing down.

[Queen Mab]

Bouncers are universally fuckwits, in my experience.

[Sasha]

I know several strippers who would disagree with your assessment of their job.

me too, and even more bouncers, yet all do start to look down on humanity after a while, get detached from reality and end up doing stuff they promised they would never do to either get more money or just hang on to the job.
its a job and like almost all work it alienates but as jobs come these ones are a bit heavier on the mental health than others.

[The Feral Underclass]

You don't think it's possible for a stripper to enjoy the work they do without turning into some kind of mentally ill misanthrope? I understand the general point you're making, but I have one particular friend who loves her work, gets paid huge sums for it and is no more mentally unwell or misanthropic than an average human being.

[Sasha]

Obviously there are exceptions to every rule, most people that I know that are or used to be in the business though (except maybe those in the fetish and burlesque sub-genres), though far from basketcases, do get an warped image of human decency after a while and need to occasional break to level with reality. Though that is no different than most barista's or fast food workers I know, just a bit more extreme.

[RedBen]

any advice psycho?