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ckaihatsu
15th November 2013, 19:44
Will Guantanamo Bay detention camp ever close

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RT goes to Guantanamo. Part 1

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RT goes to Guantanamo. Part 2

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RT goes to Guantanamo. Part 3

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RT goes to Guantanamo. Part 4

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S4PviULQT2c‎


RT goes to Guantanamo. Part 5

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Stalinist Speaker
15th November 2013, 19:49
probably not, where would the US store their SO CALLED terrorists then.

ckaihatsu
15th November 2013, 20:09
probably not, where would the US store their SO CALLED terrorists then.


Here, perhaps.... : p


'Gitmo 2' - US mulls inmate rehabitation center in Yemen

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KO0tn2FHTh8

adipocere
18th November 2013, 07:17
I suspect it has something to do with the US maintaining a military base on Cuba that it can build up over time, primarily to be ready for the deaths of the Castros but equally importantly, over the Cuba/Venezuela relationship. "Terrorists" are just the premise for the American public and international community, who has fallen over themselves to aid the "war on terror" but who is critical of US policy towards Cuba. The very fact that Gitmo is on Cuban soil is just as fucked up as what it's used for. The exile-terrorists and their pals in Miami call Guantanamo Bay, "Free Cuba"

It has always been my opinion that Gitmo only exists to keep American troops on Cuban soil. The US can detain and torture people anywhere in the world if it's not on US soil - there is no reason to choose Cuba unless there is an ulterior motive, one which has been made painfully clear for the last 54 years, but has more recently, since Chavez, become much more relevant.

There are also some older wikileaks documents which speak of an hypothetical invasion of Venezuela and something to the effect of preventing Cuba from aiding them in that situation - regardless, the Cuba/Venezuela connection to Gitmo seems far more relevant to any genuine motivation of the US than a low population prison camp of indefinitely detained Muslims whom few people in the bigoted international community care about. The war on terror is complete bullshit anyway...

ckaihatsu
19th November 2013, 21:19
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redblackandgay
19th November 2013, 21:57
I suspect it has something to do with the US maintaining a military base on Cuba that it can build up over time, primarily to be ready for the deaths of the Castros but equally importantly, over the Cuba/Venezuela relationship. "Terrorists" are just the premise for the American public and international community, who has fallen over themselves to aid the "war on terror" but who is critical of US policy towards Cuba. The very fact that Gitmo is on Cuban soil is just as fucked up as what it's used for. The exile-terrorists and their pals in Miami call Guantanamo Bay, "Free Cuba"

It has always been my opinion that Gitmo only exists to keep American troops on Cuban soil. The US can detain and torture people anywhere in the world if it's not on US soil - there is no reason to choose Cuba unless there is an ulterior motive, one which has been made painfully clear for the last 54 years, but has more recently, since Chavez, become much more relevant.

There are also some older wikileaks documents which speak of an hypothetical invasion of Venezuela and something to the effect of preventing Cuba from aiding them in that situation - regardless, the Cuba/Venezuela connection to Gitmo seems far more relevant to any genuine motivation of the US than a low population prison camp of indefinitely detained Muslims whom few people in the bigoted international community care about. The war on terror is complete bullshit anyway...

Makes sense, and may I just say, the winking stalin that is your avatar just startled the fuck out of me. Bravo

ÑóẊîöʼn
19th November 2013, 22:19
I suspect it has something to do with the US maintaining a military base on Cuba that it can build up over time, primarily to be ready for the deaths of the Castros but equally importantly, over the Cuba/Venezuela relationship. "Terrorists" are just the premise for the American public and international community, who has fallen over themselves to aid the "war on terror" but who is critical of US policy towards Cuba. The very fact that Gitmo is on Cuban soil is just as fucked up as what it's used for. The exile-terrorists and their pals in Miami call Guantanamo Bay, "Free Cuba"

So, a detention centre is the epitome of freedom for these folks? I wonder if this is some kind of subconscious recognition of just how hollow their ideals of "freedom" truly are, or just a typically right-wing utter lack of self-consciousness.


It has always been my opinion that Gitmo only exists to keep American troops on Cuban soil. The US can detain and torture people anywhere in the world if it's not on US soil - there is no reason to choose Cuba unless there is an ulterior motive, one which has been made painfully clear for the last 54 years, but has more recently, since Chavez, become much more relevant.

There are also some older wikileaks documents which speak of an hypothetical invasion of Venezuela and something to the effect of preventing Cuba from aiding them in that situation - regardless, the Cuba/Venezuela connection to Gitmo seems far more relevant to any genuine motivation of the US than a low population prison camp of indefinitely detained Muslims whom few people in the bigoted international community care about. The war on terror is complete bullshit anyway...

The US government has plans to invade everyone, their ludicrous "defence" expenditure and bloated military-industrial complex mean it can't be any other way.

Just because the war on terror is largely bullshit (although there are a handful of people who want to blow Westerners up, that should be treated as a criminal matter at most, rather than this overblown "national security" bollocks, or even worse, that absolutely nutty "clash of civilisations" dribble), that doesn't mean the US government doesn't need secure areas off the US mainland where they give "terrorists"/unfortunate scapegoats the full rubber hose treatment.

ckaihatsu
15th January 2014, 23:01
Southern Californians Demand Gitmo Shutdown

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w6yoP52ocGU


Twelve years later - Will Gitmo detainees go home

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d7Dgw5IMOJU

ckaihatsu
24th January 2014, 21:17
Retired admirals, generals call on Obama to close Gitmo

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KgoNraZpe6c

A Psychological Symphony
24th January 2014, 21:22
Best case scenario is that it "closes" and by "closes" I mean they would just put up another one somewhere else. The US government isn't going to just remove a torture camp and imperial base because they were kindly asked to.

ckaihatsu
3rd February 2014, 21:52
Gitmo detainee gets first public parole hearing

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b6FugYBp5KQ

ckaihatsu
7th May 2014, 17:25
Chris,

Hi Friends — we're pushing for more events to Close Guantanamo on Friday May 23 (http://org.salsalabs.com/dia/track.jsp?v=2&c=KZcoY0ZijIONmvB4Nn7Zyx%2BCIbpMI06z). Yes, it's the day before Memorial Day weekend, but importantly, it's one year since Obama promised again to close Guantanamo. As our friend Chuck in Albany pointed out yesterday at a rally against solitary confinement, that ain't happened.

Visible protest is really important. You can get out on the street with a few people and signs, and still — because of the significance of the day — still get media coverage and notice. Take the example of the Close Guantanamo Coalition in Chicago who has been demonstrating in orange jumpsuits every Friday. They always talk to people who are surprised — and interested — to know what the U.S. is doing in Guantanamo.

Let's hear from more cities where readers of this newsletter live! Los Angeles, Seattle, San Diego, Houston, Miami, Atlanta, Madison, Minneapolis, Kansas City, Iowa City, St. Louis, Rochester, Buffalo, Syracuse, Philadelphhia, Richmond, Charlotte, Portland ME... and dozens of other cities, campuses, and towns. We could easily double the number of locations of protests on May 23. Who's down for this? Write me! ([email protected])

We will send you flyers, posters to print, orange jumpsuits, buttons, press release templates. What else do you need?

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Stop the Torture! Close Guantanamo! End the War Crimes and Violations of Fundamental Rights!

166 men remain imprisoned at Guantanamo. Most are on hunger strike and for many it is more than 100 days that they have been refusing food. Some are near death, many imprisoned for more than ten years. They have lost hope of ever being released, although a majority were cleared to leave years ago. As Adnan Latif, a detainee, wrote during an earlier hunger strike, "Where is the world to save us from torture? Where is the world to save the hunger strikers?" Mr. Latif was cleared for release as well, but he died in September 2012, still waiting for justice.

President Obama had said nothing about Guantanamo for years. Facing a growing outcry, he blames Congress for blocking closure. Even under Congress’ existing criteria, however, Obama could have released most of the detainees years ago. He closed the office responsible for processing prisoners’ releases; made it harder for lawyers to meet with their clients by recently banning commercial flights to the prison and barring emergency calls by attorneys to the detainees; ordered forced feeding through excruciating means and by strapping prisoners down (a violation of medical ethics and torture in itself); and authorized an April 13, 2013 assault in which guards fired rubber bullets on hunger strikers. Obama does not need Congressional approval: as Commander-in-Chief, he has the power to shut the prison down now.

The continuing torture at Guantanamo is part of larger and alarming developments. When he ran for office, Obama promised to restore the rule of law. Instead he has claimed and exercised unchecked executive powers beyond what George Bush used. He refuses to prosecute officials for their use of torture, yet aggressively prosecutes any whistle-blowers who expose war crimes, most flagrantly in the torture, slander and draconian legal charges against Bradley Manning. By signing the National Defense Authorization Act of 2012, Obama made indefinite detention, based on merely an accusation, the law of the land. These actions amount to institutionalizing and, in important respects, escalating the “Bush Doctrine.”

In the name of “security,” our government has tortured at least one hundred people to death. In the name of the “war on terror,” thousands have been detained without a chance to face their accusers or even know what charges they are held under. In opposition to international law, Obama has implemented a policy of killing with drones across sovereign borders, deciding who will die by Hellfire missiles - without charges, trials, or any evidence other than what only Obama and his close advisers deem sufficient. At least 176 children have been killed by drones in Pakistan alone and between 3-4,000 non-combatants have died in drone attacks. John Bellinger, who drafted Bush’s justifications for targeted killings, concludes that the Obama administration has decided to kill people with drones so that they don’t have to imprison them.

Fundamental civil liberties have been eviscerated. In the name of safety, fear, or revenge, American presidents cannot be allowed to arrogate to themselves the power of judge, jury and executioner. Actions that utilize de facto torture, that run roughshod over the rule of law and due process, and that rain down terror and murder on peoples and nations, amount to war crimes. Such actions cannot in any way be morally justified in the name of “protecting Americans.” The lives of people living here are not more precious than any other people's lives.

It is up to the people to stand up for principle and morality when their institutions and public officials refuse to do so. The fates of those who are maimed or killed by our government’s policies are inextricably intertwined with our own: we must listen and respond to their cry for justice. We demand the release of the cleared Guantanamo prisoners now, and an end to indefinite detention without charge for the others, before they lose their lives.*

*Obama has been using preventive detention – holding people indefinitely on the grounds that they might do something bad – which is an express violation of the principles under which due process and the rule of law operate: you should not be punished for something that you have not done. He announced this policy publicly in a May 9, 2009 speech at the National Archives. See here for a further discussion of this and other related points.

Read and share the statement above, published one year ago in The New York Times. (http://org.salsalabs.com/dia/track.jsp?v=2&c=e%2F4TZZ1d%2Fkmq70eG1i6sKh%2BCIbpMI06z)


Global Day of Action to Close Guantánamo & End Indefinite Detention (http://org.salsalabs.com/dia/track.jsp?v=2&c=ES%2B4BtQSnCkjZCvnnwR%2B9R%2BCIbpMI06z)

On May 23, 2013, President Obama again promised to close the prison camp at Guantánamo. His pledge came in response to the mass hunger strike by men protesting their indefinite detention and to the renewed, global condemnation of the prison.

Since Obama’s speech, only 12 men have been released. 154 remain, nearly all of whom have never been charged with a crime. 76 were cleared for release by the US government years ago. 56 men are from Yemen, the largest national group at Guantánamo, but they remain subject to an effective moratorium on their release based on their nationality. No one from Yemen has been freed since the May speech. And the Senate report on CIA torture has still not been made public.

Up to 40 men at Guantánamo continue to hunger strike, and many are being subjected to forced feeding — a practice condemned by international human rights organizations, medical associations, and members of the US Congress. New lawsuits in US courts lay bare the extreme cruelty of the forced feeding at Guantánamo. To quell the public outcry against the prison, the US military in December 2013 stopped reporting the numbers of hunger strikers. More recently, it has classified their protest, in Orwellian fashion, as “long term non-religious fasting.” Read more... (http://org.salsalabs.com/dia/track.jsp?v=2&c=Z7zPmLb8uFZPKHKQ2Yh6Uh%2BCIbpMI06z)

The May 23 Day of Action is being coordinated by Witness Against Torture in collaboration with Amnesty International, Blue Lantern Project,Center for Constitutional Rights, CloseGitmo.net, Code Pink, London Guantanamo Campaign, National Religious Campaign Against Torture,Torture Abolition and Survivor Support Coalition, Veterans for Peace, World Can’t Wait, September 11th Families for Peaceful Tomorrows, No More Guantanamos, and others.

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The Impossibility of Being Released from Guantánamo (http://org.salsalabs.com/dia/track.jsp?v=2&c=cgWBnbrIEakHfn84s0GmMx%2BCIbpMI06z)

Andy Worthington writes about the periodic review boards Obama set up for the "forever" prisoners who the government has not chosen to charge, but also won't release:

For Ali Ahmad al-Razihi, a Yemeni prisoner at Guantánamo, a wish he has cherished for the last 12 years was granted on Wednesday, when a Periodic Review Board, made up of representatives of the Departments of State, Defense, Justice and Homeland Security, as well as the office of the Director of National Intelligence and the Office of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, recommended his release from the prison. The unclassified summary of the board’s final determination states, “The Periodic Review Board, by consensus, determined continued law of war detention of the detainee is no longer necessary to protect against a continuing significant threat to the security of the United States.”

However, in a vivid demonstration that the prison at Guantánamo Bay remains a profoundly unjust place, over 12 years since it first opened, it is not known when — if ever — he will actually be released.

Because — he's from Yemen. Outrageous!


Phony Justice in a Phony War (http://org.salsalabs.com/dia/track.jsp?v=2&c=APf7wayu%2BqgRKlttRTIy%2Bx%2BCIbpMI06z)

L. Michael Hager writes:

Once again the legitimacy of the judicial process at Guantanamo is called into question, this time by the interference of a US government agency. The New York Times of April 19, 2014, reported that "two weeks ago, a pair of FBI agents appeared unannounced at the door of a member of the defense team for one of the men accused of plotting the 9/11 terrorist attacks." They asked questions about the legal teams for some of the accused terrorists due to stand trial before the military commissions - courts designed to provide the appearance, but not the substance, of a fair trial. The FBI's "covert inquiry" was a serious breach of attorney-client privilege, showing that even the government disdains the process.

Debra Sweet, Director, The World Can't Wait


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4thInter
7th May 2014, 18:48
Will the USA stop being so imperialist/globalist with drone strikes?

Sea
7th May 2014, 23:15
Will the USA stop being so imperialist/globalist with drone strikes?Yes, because eventually they'll find some other way that costs less.

ckaihatsu
10th May 2014, 23:11
House committee earmarks $69M for new secret prison at Guantanamo 08 May 2014 Some members of Congress want to build a new secret prison for the alleged 9/11 mastermind [George W. Bush/Dick Cheney?] and other former CIA captives at Guantanamo, a project once proposed by the U.S. Southern Command but then dropped because of a lack of support from the Obama administration. Republicans at the House Armed Services Committee inserted 69 million for the new "high-value detainee complex" in its spending bill Wednesday night that earmarked a total of 93 million for new construction at the prison camps in Cuba. At Guantanamo, the military calls the complex Camp 7 and says it's built on a clandestine location at the 45-square-mile Navy base and run by a secret U.S. Army unit called Task Force Platinum.

http://www.legitgov.org/#breaking_news

ckaihatsu
15th May 2014, 17:46
May 23 Global Day of Action to Close Guantanamo


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CCR Event Announcement
Dear Chris,

On May 23, 2013, after a mass hunger strike captured the world’s attention, President Obama lifted his self-imposed moratorium on transfers to Yemen and committed – once again – to close Guantánamo. A year later, only twelve men have been transferred, 77 cleared prisoners still languish inside the prison, and the president has nothing to show for lifting the ban on transfers to Yemen: not a single Yemeni man has left Guantánamo alive since 2010. This is not progress.

Global Day of Action to Close Guantánamo

Join CCR, Witness Against Torture, Amnesty International, and allies worldwide on Friday, May 23, 2014, for a Global Day of Action (http://org.salsalabs.com/dia/track.jsp?v=2&c=wfPONTFRR8ff2JNeEDnEKgZQsLDhEo%2Fm) to demand that President Obama and Congress take concrete steps to close Guantánamo. Activists will demonstrate in over 30 cities, including New York, Washington D.C., Boston, Chicago, San Francisco, London, Toronto, Sydney, and Mexico.

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Our Yemeni clients, Ghaleb Al-Bihani, Mohammed al-Hamiri, Tariq Ba Odah, and Fahd Ghazy, have spent over 12 years at Guantánamo without charge or trial. They remain trapped there almost entirely because of their citizenship. They don’t know when – or whether – they will be freed.

In the words of 30-year-old Fahd Ghazy, “you are the voice of the voiceless.” On Friday, May 23, please raise your voice!


Thank you for your continued support.

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