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RedSunrise
14th November 2013, 13:55
Simple poll... I was disappointed with the "What religion are you?" poll in the religion section, since it is only a small part of your "world view"

sixdollarchampagne
14th November 2013, 14:04
Wow! Yet another attempt to prepare the lists for the coming purge, through the cooperation of the likely victims! Somewhere, cde Yezhov is smiling. :lol:

Thirsty Crow
14th November 2013, 14:44
I don't believe in any deities or supernatural forces of any kind. Is that naturalism? Meh, probably it is.

But I do have my quirky beliefs about the "afterlife". See the last quote in my sig? Well, yeah I do relate to history, the memory of mankind as the afterlife - what does take for one to live on? To relate with future generations when s/he's long gone, to leave something behind, a legacy and a memory of deeds that living men can relate to in one way or another.

RedSunrise
14th November 2013, 14:50
But I do have my quirky beliefs about the "afterlife". See the last quote in my sig? Well, yeah I do relate to history, the memory of mankind as the afterlife - what does take for one to live on? To relate with future generations when s/he's long gone, to leave something behind, a legacy and a memory of deeds that living men can relate to in one way or another.

Agreed. :thumbup: It doesn't matter if you think there is a... um... heaven/hellish afterlife. What you leave for the next trillion generations of humanity is what is important. I will be happy if I end up in a heavenish afterlife, but it won't matter much if my life wasn't important

Thirsty Crow
14th November 2013, 14:53
Agreed. :thumbup: It doesn't matter if you think there is a... um... heaven/hellish afterlife. What you leave for the next trillion generations of humanity is what is important. I will be happy if I end up in a heavenish afterlife, but it won't matter much if my life wasn't important
Justto be clear, I do not believe in the afterlife as the notion is used by any religion.

Trap Queen Voxxy
14th November 2013, 14:53
Islamic Theism via Sufi teachings mixed with a lot of other esoteric/gonzo shiz. This identification has come relatively recently, in a way.

Petrol Bomb
14th November 2013, 15:56
According to Wikipedia, I would be a moral and existential nihilist. To me, it seems to be the most logical position. I don't identify with the historic Nihilist movement, though.

bcbm
14th November 2013, 16:14
nihilism obvs

Trap Queen Voxxy
14th November 2013, 16:40
nihilism obvs

Must be tiring.

bcbm
14th November 2013, 17:10
Must be tiring.

quite the contrary

Art Vandelay
14th November 2013, 19:35
I don't really even like slapping labels on myself, outside of Marxist, but I suppose atheistic existentialist would probably be closest.

Creative Destruction
14th November 2013, 19:40
pantheism with christian influences is probably the best way to describe me.

RedMoslem
14th November 2013, 20:04
Pure Sunni Islamic Theism.

Remus Bleys
14th November 2013, 20:08
I belief in bayleef.

ÑóẊîöʼn
14th November 2013, 20:45
What's the difference between Naturalism and Atheistic Existentialism?

Entfremdung
14th November 2013, 20:48
Glad to see no one has voted for postmodernism.

If anyone is interested, I'm "In Between/Don't @$%# Care".

Entfremdung
14th November 2013, 20:49
Islamic Theism via Sufi teachings mixed with a lot of other esoteric/gonzo shiz. This identification has come relatively recently, in a way.

Oh wait... that's postmodernism.

ÑóẊîöʼn
14th November 2013, 20:52
Oh wait... that's postmodernism.

Pretty sure that's syncretism, actually. "Postmodernism" doesn't mean "any kind of fluffy-minded crap that pisses you off".

Entfremdung
14th November 2013, 21:02
Pretty sure that's syncretism, actually. "Postmodernism" doesn't mean "any kind of fluffy-minded crap that pisses you off".

I know but eclecticism, subjectivity, 'free play' and a general skepticism of reason are also some hallmarks of postmodernism. Syncretism and postmodernism are not mutually exclusive.

RedSunrise
14th November 2013, 21:08
It's kind of funny how many people are nihilists... I admit I was expecting more naturalists and existentialists.

Serious question to the nihilists:
Are you actually following your nihilism?

If you are: how do you hold political views? because then you are trusting something/believing something. But we know you can't believe things, because that would admit you know something.

I respect the idea that you can not know, but being consistent is important too. I never understood that about nihilists, so I figure I should ask those who subscribe to it :)

Sabot Cat
14th November 2013, 21:32
I can be described as a Naturalist, a Physicalist, a Materialist, or what have you. I don't believe in deities, spirits, or other supernatural forces or substance, as there is no evidence for any of them or any way to plausibly infer them from what is known. I haven't come to an internal consensus on my philosophy of mind, as I'm not sure what would be the parsimonious way of interpreting consciousness and its distribution in the universe. Is it not parsimonious to conclude that there is a category of things that don't experience, and thus we must hold that all things have the ability to experience and think? (Panpsychism) Is it parsimonious to conclude that other people have consciousness when the only experiential being known through direct evidence to you is yourself, when the inverse might be a more evident belief? (Solipism) Or can some sort of statistical analysis be applied to a sample size of one person? (This is related to the German Tank Problem and the Doomsday Argument; it is curious that this is the highest population of humans that have yet to be known in history. Should we be as inclusive as possible to what our population consists of as long as one is likely to be what one is? Or should we fold back to the prior two positions because it's statistical sketchy to follow the line of reasoning above?). I could be convinced with the proper evidence of any of these positions, but I don't have one in particular that I favor.

Trap Queen Voxxy
14th November 2013, 21:34
I know but eclecticism, subjectivity, 'free play' and a general skepticism of reason are also some hallmarks of postmodernism. Syncretism and postmodernism are not mutually exclusive.

maybe its...

http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-rXls8wDJtz8/Tp4OQWdCIDI/AAAAAAAAASQ/S8iDJ6mfAmY/s1600/post+modernism.jpg

Flying Purple People Eater
14th November 2013, 23:28
Post-logic, duh.

Lily Briscoe
15th November 2013, 02:47
I'm an atheist. Obviously. Anyway, I voted "naturalism", but I don't know whether that is meant as scientific naturalism (which obviously I am for) or if it is supposed to imply some sort of metaphysics.

Thirsty Crow
15th November 2013, 02:59
I'm an atheist. Obviously. Anyway, I voted "naturalism", but I don't know whether that is meant as scientific naturalism (which obviously I am for) or if it is supposed to imply some sort of metaphysics.
Yeah, good question. A half of the poll options simply confuse me. Existentialist? Nihilist?

Per Levy
15th November 2013, 03:10
im a follower of the cult of cthulhu


The time would be easy to know, for then mankind would have become as the Great Old Ones; free and wild and beyond good and evil, with laws and morals thrown aside and all men shouting and killing and revelling in joy. Then the liberated Old Ones would teach them new ways to shout and kill and revel and enjoy themselves, and all the earth would flame with a holocaust of ecstasy and freedom.

allright fantasy religion aside, im a atheist, so i belive in nothing i guess, maybe nihilism? whatever people like to understand under that.

Radio Spartacus
15th November 2013, 03:46
Say what you want about the tenants of atheistic existentialism, at least it's an ethos

RedSunrise
15th November 2013, 03:53
Yeah, good question. A half of the poll options simply confuse me. Existentialist? Nihilist?

This makes me sad :( but I suppose, "He who is blameless throw the first stone."

Suggestion: Look these things up! Philosophy and world views are very interesting and important. Saying you are an Atheist is... ignorant. (No offense) To determine that you are an atheist and not having a world view is like saying you believe in a god, but aren't apart of a religion.

Philosophy is for the atheist, as the bible is for a christian.

/Start Rage
It drives me crazy when someone say, "I am an atheist" but don't know what world view they posses. You haven't come to a conclusion and made an informed opinion. You just denied god, because you think you are too "cool"
/End Rage

Hermes
15th November 2013, 04:04
I'm pretty sure he knows what world view he possesses... considering it's him.

A lot of the labels just have a huge historic tradition, and are pretty vague, so it takes a lot of interest in philosophy as a topic to actually identify/describe all of these. Just because you can't recognize, or aren't clear on, a label, doesn't mean you don't have a worldview. That's ridiculous.

Sabot Cat
15th November 2013, 04:09
/Start Rage
It drives me crazy when someone say, "I am an atheist" but don't know what world view they posses. You haven't come to a conclusion and made an informed opinion. You just denied god, because you think you are too "cool"
/End Rage

I don't understand your rage. You don't have to have a fully developed theory of metaphysics to observe the non-existence of something that obviously doesn't exist. Indeed, disbelieving a claim is the default position that requires no defense due to the nature of the burden of evidence.

bcbm
15th November 2013, 04:12
It's kind of funny how many people are nihilists... I admit I was expecting more naturalists and existentialists.

Serious question to the nihilists:
Are you actually following your nihilism?

If you are: how do you hold political views? because then you are trusting something/believing something. But we know you can't believe things, because that would admit you know something.

I respect the idea that you can not know, but being consistent is important too. I never understood that about nihilists, so I figure I should ask those who subscribe to it :)


nihilism
: the belief that traditional morals, ideas, beliefs, etc., have no worth or value

: the belief that a society's political and social institutions are so bad that they should be destroyed

so, there ya go.

Taters
15th November 2013, 04:41
Aww, no absurdism?

argeiphontes
15th November 2013, 04:51
I'm mostly a Woody Allenist. "I don't want to achieve immortality through my works, I want to achieve it by not dying." It's not the pain or anything else I fear about it, it's the ceasing to exist that gets me. Eat your veggies and don't smoke, kids, I guess... ;)

Strangely unrelated, I've had some interesting experiences that make me think that maybe there's an unknown coherence to the universe that hasn't been discovered yet. It expanded from a single point mass and nobody knows where or what it is, or why there's anything at all and not nothing. I'm kind of an "atheistic polytheist" if anything, it seems to actually "work" in the physical world. I sure hope there's something but I'm not too optimistic. :confused:

edit: One option that seems better than others is to get in shape and push myself so much that I end up dying in a shark attack or falling off of Denali. That kind of a death I can handle. Unfortunately those things require money. Fuck capitalism. ;)

Lily Briscoe
15th November 2013, 05:00
This makes me sad :( but I suppose, "He who is blameless throw the first stone."

Suggestion: Look these things up! Philosophy and world views are very interesting and important. Saying you are an Atheist is... ignorant. (No offense) To determine that you are an atheist and not having a world view is like saying you believe in a god, but aren't apart of a religion.

Philosophy is for the atheist, as the bible is for a christian.


OK OK, I'm sold:


Trawl wikipedia to find a metaphysical pose to adopt.

I've put it on my to-do list, right below "watch really bad porn". I think in the meantime I'll continue to form opinions about things that are actually relevant to real life, though. :)

Zostrianos
15th November 2013, 05:05
Philosophical Pagan

argeiphontes
15th November 2013, 06:19
^ I wouldn't want anyone to accuse me of being a Market Socialist just because my favorite deity happens to be a God of commerce :grin:

The Garbage Disposal Unit
15th November 2013, 06:55
I'd like to point out that post-modernism refers to a whole variety of literally post-modernist thought, rather than a specific worldview. That said, even if one were to take it generally, it would be understood to refer to the idea that a "worldview" is in some sense impossible - that there are necessarily worldsviews, which cannot articulate the reality of the totality by virtue of their specific subjective character.

So, y'know.

RedSunrise
15th November 2013, 14:26
Strangely unrelated, I've had some interesting experiences that make me think that maybe there's an unknown coherence to the universe that hasn't been discovered yet. It expanded from a single point mass and nobody knows where or what it is, or why there's anything at all and not nothing. I'm kind of an "atheistic polytheist" if anything, it seems to actually "work" in the physical world. I sure hope there's something but I'm not too optimistic. :confused:


Hmm... Is this almost like deism? (Cold deism that is) :confused: I am confused, yet intrigued but this odd new idea. Please continue...

P.S.
Perhaps it is more of a "supreme being" that is intimately woven throughout the fabric of the universe? But where is the basis for that kind of idea, yes?

Jesus Saves Gretzky Scores
15th November 2013, 15:36
Nihilism or existentialism, I voted nihilism, but both of those have aspects that appeal to me.

Remus Bleys
15th November 2013, 16:01
Philosophy is for the atheist, as the bible is for a christian.
I'm sorry, what? (http://www.thenorthstar.info/?p=8663)

RedSunrise
15th November 2013, 16:22
I'm sorry, what? (http://www.thenorthstar.info/?p=8663)

Yes. Yes, I put it quite crudely... I was simply stating:

You shouldn't say, "God does not exist!" and stop there. That is pure ignorance. "There is no proof for a god, so he must not exist." OK, now we are getting somewhere. But now we know god doesn't exist: how do we define morals? how do we define society? what created the universe? An atheist is someone who doesn't believe in a god. The title encompasses naturalists, nihilism, and existentialism, etc.

If you stop at, "I am an atheist" you are someone who believes in nothing, but the absence of a deity. If you stop at naturalism, you actually posses a world view. All nihilists are atheists, but not all atheists are nihilists. I guess the best way to put it would be: You can not believe in atheism; you believe in world view that has atheism as an aspect.

Thirsty Crow
15th November 2013, 16:47
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Suggestion: Look these things up! Philosophy and world views are very interesting and important. Saying you are an Atheist is... ignorant. (No offense) No, they aren't, at least for me. I don't have a worldview.
Furthermore, it's childish to say the least that describing oneself an atheist is ignorant.


To determine that you are an atheist and not having a world view is like saying you believe in a god, but aren't apart of a religion.No, it isn't. The analogy is confused and a little ridiculous.


Philosophy is for the atheist, as the bible is for a christian.
Not for me.


It drives me crazy when someone say, "I am an atheist" but don't know what world view they posses.I openly state, if by worldview you mean philosophical theories, I'm going to drive you crazy constantly. I have my own views on the world - encapsulated in my political position. Why would I need anything more?


You haven't come to a conclusion and made an informed opinion. You just denied god, because you think you are too "cool"
/End RageI don't deny anything - I don't believe in something which can never be proved. If I denied anything, it is the power of belief over that of knowledge.

Sabot Cat
15th November 2013, 21:06
Yes. Yes, I put it quite crudely... I was simply stating:

You shouldn't say, "God does not exist!" and stop there. That is pure ignorance. "There is no proof for a god, so he must not exist." OK, now we are getting somewhere. But now we know god doesn't exist: how do we define morals? how do we define society? what created the universe?

You're begging the question by assuming that God is a salient factor in defining morals or society without even proving that such an entity exists or explicating what it is; the notion that the universe was "created" especially falls victim to this fallacy, as one would need to assume that there is a creator or creators to think that the universe was somehow made.


An atheist is someone who doesn't believe in a god. The title encompasses naturalists, nihilism, and existentialism, etc.

If you stop at, "I am an atheist" you are someone who believes in nothing, but the absence of a deity.

I don't disagree.


If you stop at naturalism, you actually posses a world view. All nihilists are atheists, but not all atheists are nihilists. I guess the best way to put it would be: You can not believe in atheism; you believe in world view that has atheism as an aspect.

Theism is such a privileged and well-accounted-for group that defining one's self against it is distinctive enough to affix the label of 'atheist' upon oneself. An 'atheist' is qualitatively different than a theist, and hence I don't find it ignorant to assert that one is an atheist in the context of a religious discussion.

DOOM
15th November 2013, 21:18
Muslim.But probably one of the worst ones :D

ÑóẊîöʼn
15th November 2013, 21:42
No, they aren't, at least for me. I don't have a worldview.

Sure you do. Just because your worldview doesn't conform to some premeditated schema doesn't mean that it doesn't exist.

I'm reminded of those people who think that they "haven't got an accent".

Thirsty Crow
15th November 2013, 21:59
Sure you do. Just because your worldview doesn't conform to some premeditated schema doesn't mean that it doesn't exist.

I'm reminded of those people who think that they "haven't got an accent".
That's why I asked does "worldview" amount to some flavour of a philosophical grand theory (as the user implied as much, and even stated openly some rather dubious things). If it does, then no I don't because I actively avoid approaching real problems in such a way.

argeiphontes
16th November 2013, 02:14
Hmm... Is this almost like deism? (Cold deism that is) :confused: I am confused, yet intrigued but this odd new idea. Please continue...

P.S.
Perhaps it is more of a "supreme being" that is intimately woven throughout the fabric of the universe? But where is the basis for that kind of idea, yes?

Well, it could be a form of deism. I used to have a link to where somebody described an "atheist" polytheism that merely considers the Gods to be "archetypes that can be interacted with" but I can't find it right now. That's a bit too radical for me, but my "belief" in anything isn't very strong. But maybe it should be if I really had the courage to follow my personal gnosis, and just admit to being a polytheist.

I used to be a hardcore atheist until those "experiences" I mentioned, which I don't really want to get into on this board, but it was just experiences of very strong synchronicity associated with a particular set of Gods.

It just sounds too kooky to admit in public at my age, esp. having been an atheist. :) But most Christians believe on the basis of far less, if anything at all.

Remus Bleys
16th November 2013, 02:16
Well, it could be a form of deism. I used to have a link to where somebody described an "atheist" polytheism that merely considers the Gods to be "archetypes that can be interacted with" but I can't find it right now. That's a bit too radical for me, but my "belief" in anything isn't very strong. But maybe it should be if I really had the courage to follow my personal gnosis, and just admit to being a polytheist.

I used to be a hardcore atheist until those "experiences" I mentioned, which I don't really want to get into on this board, but it was just experiences of very strong synchronicity associated with a particular set of Gods.

It just sounds too kooky to admit in public at my age, esp. having been an atheist. :) But most Christians believe on the basis of far less, if anything at all.fucking jungian bullshit

argeiphontes
16th November 2013, 02:16
^Fuck yeah!

RedSunrise
17th November 2013, 21:08
Well, it could be a form of deism. I used to have a link to where somebody described an "atheist" polytheism that merely considers the Gods to be "archetypes that can be interacted with" but I can't find it right now. That's a bit too radical for me, but my "belief" in anything isn't very strong. But maybe it should be if I really had the courage to follow my personal gnosis, and just admit to being a polytheist.

I used to be a hardcore atheist until those "experiences" I mentioned, which I don't really want to get into on this board, but it was just experiences of very strong synchronicity associated with a particular set of Gods.

It just sounds too kooky to admit in public at my age, esp. having been an atheist. :) But most Christians believe on the basis of far less, if anything at all.

That is something very new to me :) Thank you for sharing (I mean it!) If you do ever find that link I would love to see it.

As for the bold part, I must agree with your sentiments. I have trouble throwing all my belief at one thing, which causes a lot of problems personally. I could believe in Zeus, but I can't seem to push myself the last bit and really believe believe, you know? *sigh*

argeiphontes
18th November 2013, 23:16
I could believe in Zeus, but I can't seem to push myself the last bit and really believe believe, you know? *sigh*

Not to worry, some time in the 4th century the oracle of Apollon at Delphi proclaimed that the Gods were manifestations of a single deity. Could have been the Christian influence though, or neoplatonic conceptions of the One.

The Wikipedia article on Neopaganism (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Neopaganism) is an interesting read, too. There's a bit in there about everything.

"Make your own nature, not the advice of others, your guide in life." :)

RedSunrise
19th November 2013, 14:55
Not to worry, some time in the 4th century the oracle of Apollon at Delphi proclaimed that the Gods were manifestations of a single deity. Could have been the Christian influence though, or neoplatonic conceptions of the One.

The Wikipedia article on Neopaganism (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Neopaganism) is an interesting read, too. There's a bit in there about everything.

"Make your own nature, not the advice of others, your guide in life." :)

Very very good read! Thanks... Is it really possible to get into paganism? I mean sure obviously people do, but I don't see that you could hard-core believe in that kind of stuff. Props to them for taking that leap. :thumbup:

Dean
19th November 2013, 14:57
I'm a little surprised you didn't include more explicitly Marxist positions.

I have to admit that as I've aged, I've been a bit ambivalent about some certain labels (for instance, materialism and existentialism seem to be applicable to a wide range of ideas, often without people explicitly identifying with those terms). Nonetheless, "historical materialism" succinctly defines a lot of what I tend to think, and for me, it is largely mutually exclusive with things like theism and postmodernism and nihilism.

boiler
19th November 2013, 16:01
I'm an Atheist, I don't believe in religion or an after life. But I try live my life something similar to what this quote says.

"Man's dearest possession is life. It is given to him but once, and he must live it so as to feel no torturing regrets for wasted years, never know the burning shame of a mean and petty past; so live that, dying he might say: all my life, all my strength were given to the finest cause in all the world- the fight for the Liberation of Mankind." - Nikolai Ostrovsky

La Comédie Noire
20th November 2013, 17:17
I go back and forth between Existentialism and Nihilism. I was raised Catholic and though I don't believe I think I inherited the Grimness of the religion which influences my atheism.

EDIT:

I don't understand how some atheists can even crack a smile or muster the energy to be feverent about it. I suppose it's because they've fallen prey to one of the thousands of secular beliefs that are equally without merit. Like "everything's going to be okay" "we have free will" "life's a party" ect. They've never seriously contemplated the horrors of a meaningless universe.

RedSunrise
20th November 2013, 17:32
I go back and forth between Existentialism and Nihilism. I was raised Catholic and though I don't believe I think I inherited the Grimness of the religion which influences my atheism.

EDIT:

I don't understand how some atheists can even crack a smile or muster the energy to be feverent about it. I suppose it's because they've fallen prey to one of the thousands of secular beliefs that are equally without merit. Like "everything's going to be okay" "we have free will" "life's a party" ect. They've never seriously contemplated the horrors of a meaningless universe.

I completely agree, which is why I am a theistic existentialist :)

But I don't think in a closed universe life is meaningless... The meaning of life is to evolve. Humans have simply advanced to the point in evolution that we are too smart for our own good and fight the truth. Life is to evolve, but with our intelligence we can't understand it being that simple. Do you see a dog ask why he is here? No. Humans just have that one self-doubting quality.

Fakeblock
20th November 2013, 17:38
But I don't think in a closed universe life is meaningless... The meaning of life is to evolve. Humans have simply advanced to the point in evolution that we are too smart for our own good and fight the truth. Life is to evolve, but with our intelligence we can't understand it being that simple. Do you see a dog ask why he is here? No. Humans just have that one self-doubting quality.


Then what is the purpose of evolution?

RedSunrise
20th November 2013, 17:54
Then what is the purpose of evolution?

Excellent question... I don't know. Nothing in nature knows and yet they follow blindly. Why are we different?

Like I said, I can't answer that question. Perhaps, all we can do is forward it until we achieve a point, when we become "enlightened".

The only way I can justify following evolution is this:


BUT MOM!!! Everyone else is doing it!
We got nothing else to do... Who knows maybe it will give us an answer!

argeiphontes
20th November 2013, 17:55
One of the options should definitely have been The Church of Stop Shopping (http://www.revbilly.com/), my favorite mainstream religion. ;)

Czy
21st November 2013, 19:23
Other

Absurdism

Sea
21st November 2013, 20:53
There's only one answer.

http://www.subgenius.com/

http://i.imgur.com/UEN1gZ5.jpg

Fakeblock
21st November 2013, 21:06
Excellent question... I don't know. Nothing in nature knows and yet they follow blindly. Why are we different?

Like I said, I can't answer that question. Perhaps, all we can do is forward it until we achieve a point, when we become "enlightened".

The only way I can justify following evolution is this:


BUT MOM!!! Everyone else is doing it!
We got nothing else to do... Who knows maybe it will give us an answer!


Eh? Evolution isn't something you can decide whether or not to follow. Are we talking about the same thing here?

RedSunrise
22nd November 2013, 14:27
Eh? Evolution isn't something you can decide whether or not to follow. Are we talking about the same thing here?

Yes. From evolution, you define purpose. From purpose, you define morals. You can decide to follow the "morals of natural evolution" (At least, I think you can) That is what you choose to follow.

But why should we follow evolution? I don't know. That goes back to the post you quoted. :o Good Luck ;)

Czy
22nd November 2013, 14:41
RedSunrise,

Evolution mainly works by natural selection. Let's unravel that term: it means animals and plants which are best suited to their environment will, on average, survive better. There is a struggle for existence. Those who survive will produce the next generation. Their genes will be passed on, and the genes of those who did not reproduce will not. This is the basic mechanism which changes a population and causes evolution.


You can decide to follow the "morals of natural evolution"

I'm not sure I follow your rhetoric here. Evolution is a fact of life; it is inescapable. 'Escaping' evolution essentially means you are no longer able to adapt to a constantly changing environment, and your species will die out.

-Czy

Dodo
22nd November 2013, 14:49
Dialectical materialism? Which also means I am an atheist, or at least an agnostic. My perception of the world is through materialism. I try to describe everything about myself, my thoughts, my feelings from that perspective and I try to see it in a dialectical way. The same way the world shapes me, I shape my world and beliefs. Unfortunately, the world shaped me pretty bad, so even if I see the obvious problems with myself, I can not change them. The change however happens on its own constantly anyways :) so I just have to go through with it.

Lokomotive293
28th November 2013, 20:41
Other

Marxism

Sinister Intents
9th December 2013, 03:28
I am a wiccan pagan that rejects belief in deities. I don't exactly know what I count as in this regard. I do believe in a kind of afterlife, and I do believe in ghosts. I also believe in reincarnation, but I do accept I could be wrong about these things.

IBleedRed
9th December 2013, 05:11
Deism.

Yuppie Grinder
9th December 2013, 06:08
Other: Historical Materialism
yea i kno i'm boring

Tenka
9th December 2013, 07:55
People are born, most of them think and love; each and every one is on an individual path set by mostly imperceptible causes and effects that leads invariably to death. This is sad, for beings that think and love ought to live forever.

I call it, "Sappy", and it is my worldview.

edit: a mite too human-centric, but I just made it up on the spot, and so are most religions.

Tolstoy
9th December 2013, 14:04
I strongly agree with both Atheist Existentialism and Postmodernism in this poll, though im open to Pantheism and certain forms of mysticism.

I also consider myself a Catholic Atheist, which I promise isnt a joke

tallguy
9th December 2013, 14:17
The way you have compiled the list implies that each of these is some form of faith. I have rational beliefs. But I have no faith. Faith is, by definition a belief in something in the absence of evidence. For, if you have evidence, you don't need faith.

So, I guess. if really pushed, I might describe myself as having a chosen modus-operandi of thought and action which might be loosely described as "rationalist/empiricist".

In any event, whilst naturalism is close, rationalism/empiricism was not on the list. Not that I would have signed it anyway cos I don't like categorical lists when they apply to me and, in doing so, imply what I may or may not think at a future time.

AntiFascism
14th December 2013, 06:12
Hard materialism. Everything is physical and all phenomena and forces supervene on the physical. My attitude to religion is that it will die out naturally by expanding science knowledge, we don't really even need to propagandize against it but I am in favour of using the scientific method and the archaeological and historical record to debunk it. The world is just an image of man and all history is the history of class struggle.

MattDoe
23rd December 2013, 10:52
Just a simple atheist here.

motion denied
24th December 2013, 02:54
Don't @$%# Care

AnaRchic
4th February 2014, 20:57
I chose Nihilism. I don't think absolute knowledge is possible, even with the best scientific methodology our "knowledge" is only provisional. I reject the notion of there being an inherent meaning or purpose in life, as the existence of such cannot be demonstrated and the entire concept is a baseless abstraction.

For similar reasons I reject the existence of any kind of objective morality. No one has been able to sufficiently explain a basis for such a concept; there is no objective foundation for "morality". Human beings have sentiments, opinions, and empathy, but these are not to be confused with "morality".

I'm more aligned with the thinking of Max Stirner. I reject the imposition of abstract concepts onto reality as if they were themselves real in any sense. In my mind each individual is responsible for determining their own values and their own actions in life, without regard for these 'spooks' of the mind. Anarchism naturally stems from this Nihilism, asserting the freedom of the individual to think and act as they see fit.

Skyhilist
4th February 2014, 21:03
Seems like some of these are not mutually exclusive, why can't I be more than one?

Brutus
4th February 2014, 21:17
I believe in myself.

tallguy
4th February 2014, 21:24
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