'Unpatriotic' Inmates Eat only Bread and Water

[GiantMonkeyMan]

PHOENIX (CBS5) -
Maricopa County Sheriff Joe Arpaio is threatening water and bread for unpatriotic inmates who deface or vandalize the American flag.

"Ten inmates are currently on bread and water for this infraction," Arpaio said.

Arpaio said he has implemented an American flag campaign in his jails.
Each cell is getting a sticker of an American flag. Any inmate who vandalizes the flag will be punished with the restricted diet.

In keeping with the patriotic theme, Arpaio has ordered that the playing of God Bless America and the National Anthem be done daily in every jail facility over the public address system and for all the inmates, regardless of national origin, to hear and sing-a-long.

The sheriff's office employs more than 600 men and women who are veterans representing past service in all branches of the armed forces.

The patriotic campaign will cover the Fourth Avenue Jail, Durango Jail, Estrella Jail, Lower Buckeye Jail, Tent City Jail, Central Intake and Towers Jail.
http://www.kpho.com/story/23929601/sheriff-arpaio-unpatriotic-inmates-to-get-bread-water

Yet again, another 'what the fucking hell' moment. Scary that these are the sorts of fuckers in office.

[Sinister Intents]

Fuck the flag. I'll burn an American flag. This is disgusting, the people in charge need to be taken the fuck out.

[Crabbensmasher]

That man is a psychopath

[Per Levy]

they probally get sued soon, i cant belive that this is constitutional or even lawful in any way, please correct me if im wrong. but yeah its good to see that patriotism/nationalism is still alive and well :rolleyes:.

[Trap Queen Voxxy]

More pointless brainwashing attempts I see. I don't see how this, combined with other common incarceration 'breaking' techniques, is not inhumane and psychologically damaging. The joints already a disease infested death trap, let's get these fine and upstanding citizens psychologically fragile and unstable and lower the immune systems further. Nothing bad could ever happen.

[Sea]

Wonderful. Now every prisoner can be a political prisoner!

[Ocean Seal]

Wonderful. Now every prisoner can be a political prisoner!
They already are political prisoners.

[Red Commissar]

they probally get sued soon, i cant belive that this is constitutional or even lawful in any way, please correct me if im wrong. but yeah its good to see that patriotism/nationalism is still alive and well :rolleyes:.

There's been challenges to him (including DoJ charges) but Apario is untouchable it seems- even with keeping inmates outside in the Arizona heat. Combined with getting support from the racists living in the area and diluting minority votes, he's pretty much set to be re-elected without fault until he steps down on his own accord. Plus all the wingnuts supporting him from outside the state.

As disgusting this is, what's worse is that you can find some people who think he's doing a good job. Mexican and Native communities in Maricopa County have to deal with his posse of thugs harassing them (in rural areas outside of Phoenix of course, in the city you have to deal with the city cops).

[waqob]

Just like North Korea

[Danielle Ni Dhighe]

Scary that these are the sorts of fuckers in office.
Scary that they have support to keep them in office. These are the kind of people who would become full-blown fascists if there was a major crisis in the capitalist system.

[Taters]

In keeping with the patriotic theme, Arpaio has ordered that the playing of God Bless America and the National Anthem be done daily in every jail facility over the public address system and for all the inmates, regardless of national origin, to hear and sing-a-long.

I'm sure no one will resent this and will become patriotic Americans that love God and liberty. Unceasingly singing patriotic songs that mention the 'land of the free' etc in prison is also not totally ironic.

[RedHal]

I'm sure no one will resent this and will become patriotic Americans that love God and liberty. Unceasingly singing patriotic songs that mention the 'land of the free' etc in prison is also not totally ironic.

I think Arpaio is just looking for any excuse to punish and humiliate the inmates and imposing his 'merica #1 bullshit is a bonus for this sadistic fuck

[Hrafn]

"Welcome to the United Snakes
Land of the Thief
Home of the Slave"

- Brother Ali

[Rugged Collectivist]

And he keeps getting elected.

I'll never set foot in Arizona.

[Os Cangaceiros]

Phoenix ain't that bad of a city.

Just don't get arrested there!

[Dennis the 'Bloody Peasant']

All who deface the glorious symbol of freedom, whilst being incarcerated, will be punished! God Bless the Sacred Flag...jeeeezuz
Lil Mussolini having a twisted power trip...imagine it's what Glenn Beck or some other Fox drone would do if they were in charge of such a facility.

[Flying Purple People Eater]

Seems America is finally following china and the DPRK with the whole re-education camps shenanigan.


BOW DOWN TO THE FLAG OR STARVE.

[Trap Queen Voxxy]

Seems America is finally following china and the DPRK with the whole re-education camps shenanigan.


BOW DOWN TO THE FLAG OR STARVE.

I don't understand why people in this thread keep talking about the DPRK. You people do realize that it's America, that has more people incarcerated than any other country on the planet? Ever in history? Not by a little bit, I mean, by a fucking mile.

More than the DPRK, fSU, China, etc? America has always had re-education as part of their penal lesson plan; why do you think they only feed you that bullshit, watery, soy and grease shit? Why do you think they keep you in a disorienting, prolonged, and chronically sleep deprived state? It's to break you psychologically and to keep you pacified and docile, it's the exact same thing the US military does to both recruits and POWs. Ever heard of US Army Rangers walking off mountain faces trying to stick dollar bills in fictional trees? Shit's no joke, that's sleep dep. The whole point is to break you, re-train you and then release you. Why do you have to do all of those bullshit jobs around the prison? What's the point of those, eh?

I mean the real point of prison is to take us wild, uncontrollable, "predatory," assholes aka poor people and try to "iron us out," psychologically so we can become reformed, contrite, proper, docile, conforming part of American society. Social pacification. America was born out of and profits by treachery, deceit, mayhem and violence but if you are part the lowest of the low ([lumpen]-proletariat) and do the same thing, boom, now you're a criminal.

My point? All of this is political, this is how they keep the workers in check. Incarceration is just another socio-political tool for the bourgeoisie to keep the poor, the dangerous, the minorities, etc. in check. Doesn't even matter if it's prison, jail or mental asylums. I recommend Medical Apartheid by Harriet A. Washington, for further information on the asylums bit.

I don't mean to come all out of pocket and just jump your neck but I think it's important that we view America as it should be. Fuck this notion, that the fSU, DPRK, China, etc. are/were brutal dictatorships and America is just some bastion of freedoms with a couple of flaws and historical guffaws. No. That's bullshit and I think it's something we need to shake out of people's heads. It shouldn't be like "oh, well, America does certainly have it's problems but those are dictatorships, you see, we just have a problem with bad apples." No, this is a dictatorship, it has been a dictatorship and a lot of fucked up shit has gone down. I don't see this as being any different really then reports of the US military playing the Barney song on repeat and subjecting the POW to heavy sleep dep in the process. It's basically about the same thing.

[erupt]

Making Native Americans sing, rise for the flag, etc. bothers me the most.

It's wrong for anyone, but Native Americans were exploited and experienced what many historians now consider an attempt at genocide. Why in the world should anyone, especially a Native American, be forced to do these things?

[Sea]

All who deface the glorious symbol of freedom, whilst being incarcerated, will be punished! God Bless the Sacred Flag...jeeeezuz
Lil Mussolini having a twisted power trip...imagine it's what Glenn Beck or some other Fox drone would do if they were in charge of such a facility.They'd probably drink patriotic beer and watch TV, and hire someone else to do the dirty work. I honestly doubt Glenn Beck would give enough of a shit to be any more oppressive than he absolutely has to.

[Sabot Cat]

Does the overpowering situational irony of forcing people into singing about the abundance of liberty in their land escape these people? It's something I would expect to see in a fictional work trying to clumsily make a point.

[Brandon's Impotent Rage]

*sigh*

I'm sadly not very surprised. This is Joe Arpaio we're talking about. The self-proclaimed "America's Toughest Sheriff". This is the same twit whose done everything from tampering with evidence to making his inmates wear bunny slippers and pink underwear. He is one of the biggest assholes in the country and further makes the case that police deserve nothing less than bricks to the head.

And yeah, he DOES keep getting re-elected time after time. The only way he will ever stop being Sheriff is litigation or death.

[Canada]

Arpaio has created a pointless liability. I wonder how often inmates exploit it by defacing someone else's flag.

[RedWaves]

Classic Joe Arpaio moment. Should go right up there with everything else he has done.

And this is the people that run America. Fuck the flag and fuck the country!

[Mather]

I'm really surprised this dick is still alive. There must be many ex-prisoners of his who would love nothing better than to put a bullet to his head.

[Yuppie Grinder]

Wonderful. Now every prisoner can be a political prisoner!

They all already are.

[Sinister Intents]

They all already are.

Pretty sure Vox Populi covered this in a previous post in this thread.

[Marshal of the People]

That man is a psychopath
I really doubt it. Not only does that show a complete lack of knowledge of what psychopathy is I almost found that offensive. I would however call him an idiot, nationalist, patriot, AmeriKKKan etc.

[Mather]

I really doubt it. Not only does that show a complete lack of knowledge of what psychopathy is I almost found that offensive. I would however call him an idiot, nationalist, patriot, AmeriKKKan etc.

Err, what exactly is offensive about that?

Of course none of us can diagnose Arpaio over the internet but from what I have heard and seen of him, I would not be surprised if he was either psychopathic or sociopathic. However, I feel that his mental state is not really the issue at hand here as it is the capitalist system and it's prison regime which ultimately gives rise to people like him to gain positions of power and authority in society.

[Marshal of the People]

Err, what exactly is offensive about that?

Of course none of us can diagnose Arpaio over the internet but from what I have heard and seen of him, I would not be surprised if he was either psychopathic or sociopathic. However, I feel that his mental state is not really the issue at hand here as it is the capitalist system and it's prison regime which ultimately gives rise to people like him to gain positions of power and authority in society.
Being an idiot does not make you a psychopath! He probably thinks he is doing a good thing by instilling "good" old American values into them.

[Marshal of the People]

Okay, show me the quotes and tell about the actions which lead you to suspect he is a psychopath.

[Mather]

Being an idiot does not make you a psychopath! He probably thinks he is doing a good thing by instilling "good" old American values into them.

Is he an idiot though?

What in your view is idiocy?

According to the original definition of the word in ancient Greece, an idiot was someone who either lacked an interest in or knowledge of politics. Politically speaking from the point of view of the ruling class he serves, Arpaio is actually doing something quit clever, breaking prisoners down psychologically so that they become passive and docile and no longer have any will to resist. That may seem repugnant to you and me but to Arpaio and the ruling class he serves it makes perfect logical sense.

[Marshal of the People]

Is he an idiot though?

What in your view is idiocy?

According to the original definition of the word in ancient Greece, an idiot was someone who either lacked an interest in or knowledge of politics. Politically speaking from the point of view of the ruling class he serves, Arpaio is actually doing something quit clever, breaking prisoners down psychologically so that they become passive and docile and no longer have any will to resist. That may seem repugnant to you and me but to Arpaio and the ruling class he serves it makes perfect logical sense.

So being racist, patriotic and nationalistic is not stupid, it is intelligent? We leftists must be idiots then.

[Mather]

Okay, show me the quotes and tell about the actions which lead you to suspect he is a psychopath.

It was from some news channel, Al Jazeera English I think and it was many years ago so I don't have it on hand. It showed him giving the news crew a tour of his prison and the look of delight on his face in what he was doing and the animated way in which he talked about his prison regime gave me the distinct impression he enjoyed it. One of the signs of psychopathy is to enjoy making others suffer.

However, I'll repeat the fact that I nor anyone else cannot actually diagnose him over the internet so this really is a moot point.

[Mather]

So being racist, patriotic and nationalistic is not stupid, it is intelligent? We leftists must be idiots then.

No. You fail to take into account the context of class here. Racism, patriotism and nationalism are all perfectly logical from the point of view of the ruling class and Arpaio serves that class. How is that difficult to understand?

It would be idiotic for a worker to support racism, patriotism and nationalism because it does not serve his/her objective class interests. Racism, patriotism and nationalism do serve the objective class interests of the ruling class so it would be idiotic of them to discard them.

[Marshal of the People]

It was from some news channel, Al Jazeera English I think and it was many years ago so I don't have it on hand. It showed him giving the news crew a tour of his prison and the look of delight on his face in what he was doing and the animated way in which he talked about his prison regime gave me the distinct impression he enjoyed it. One of the signs of psychopathy is to enjoy making others suffer.

However, I'll repeat the fact that I nor anyone else cannot actually diagnose him over the internet so this really is a moot point.

Are you sure you haven’t got psychopathy confused with sadism? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sadistic_personality_disorder
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sadism_and_masochism_%28as_medical_terms%29

[Mather]

Are you sure you haven’t got psychopathy confused with sadism? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sadistic_personality_disorder
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sadism_and_masochism_%28as_medical_terms%29

I'm not a psychologist so I cannot really say for sure, it may well be the case.

Regardless of whether he is a psychopath, sociopath or a sadist the main issue for me is the wider context of how prisons are run in the US. All prisons operate brutal and inhumane regimes and it is this which gives rise to the likes of Arpaio. Ultimately the issue is a structural one and that point stands whether the person running the prison in mentally unbalanced or not.

[Marshal of the People]

I'm not a psychologist so I cannot really say for sure, it may well be the case.

Regardless of whether he is a psychopath, sociopath or a sadist the main issue for me is the wider context of how prisons are run in the US. All prisons operate brutal and inhumane regimes and it is this which gives rise to the likes of Arpaio. Ultimately the issue is a structural one and that point stands whether the person running the prison in mentally unbalanced or not.

He probably isn't a psychopath. It is shocking that so many Americans in law enforcement act similar to psychopaths and yet aren't.

[Future]

http://www.funcage.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2014/01/I-dont-want-to-live-on-this-planet-anymore.jpg

Seriously, fuck Joe Arpaio and everything he stands for.

[ÑóẊîöʼn]

He probably isn't a psychopath. It is shocking that so many Americans in law enforcement act similar to psychopaths and yet aren't.

Have you considered the possibility that the way law enforcement institutions work creates an environment in which sociopaths/psychopaths/sadists can flourish?

In this way, the systemic pathology of the system fosters pathology on an individual level, adding to the current order's other failures.

[Prometeo liberado]

The sheriff's office employs more than 600 men and women who are veterans representing past service in all branches of the armed forces.

I'm against the war but support our troops.:rolleyes: