I've quit Facebook, blogger, wordpress, I learned from Edward Snowden

[AmilcarCabral]

Dear friends of Revleft: The great majority people out there have taken for granted the whistle blower Edward Snowden, how he exposed the truth about the NSA spying scandal, and the way the US government spies on US citizens and even on the people of other countries. There are many articles out there about how Facebook is linked to the CIA and how it spies on the members of Facebook. And I've learned from whatreallyhappened.com that the US government has this very bad habit of hiring hackers to terrorize people, to introduce trojan viruses and other super-advanced viruses, with the goal of learning about what people are doing, what people are thinking about, and learning about the thoughts and personal ideas of americans.

That's why I've decided to quit Facebook, some blogs, and writting comments on wordpress. That's why in many movies you will see that smart criminals, smart professional thieves do not use credit cards, computers, cell phones, private cars, etc. Because they know that all electronic technologic, all advanced technology including, vehicles, credit cards, etc. destroy the personal freedom of people. Because as soon as people are tied and enslaved by cell phones and credit cards. they are not free anymore. They become trackable to the US government

That's why the only place where I will write my thoughts and opinions against the capitalist system and communism as the solution will be in this forum. Besides most leftists of Facebook are not serious, most Facebook leftists are really bourgeoise liberals and the radical marxist Facebook members are not very concentrated into marxist analysis of the global economy. Maybe because Facebook is really set up as an internet social club, and not really set up as a place for scientific rational cold discussions.

These types of forums like Revleft.com and other forums like this one with many different sections, sub-sections are a lot better than Facebook for scientific serious debates

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[Trap Queen Voxxy]

Dear friends of Revleft: The great majority people out there have taken for granted the whistle blower Edward Snowden, how he exposed the truth about the NSA spying scandal, and the way the US government spies on US citizens and even on the people of other countries. There are many articles out there about how Facebook is linked to the CIA and how it spies on the members of Facebook. And I've learned from whatreallyhappened.com that the US government has this very bad habit of hiring hackers to terrorize people, to introduce trojan viruses and other super-advanced viruses, with the goal of learning about what people are doing, what people are thinking about, and learning about the thoughts and personal ideas of americans.

Trill.


That's why I've decided to quit Facebook, some blogs, and writting comments on wordpress. That's why in many movies you will see that smart criminals, smart professional thieves do not use credit cards, computers, cell phones, private cars, etc. Because they know that all electronic technologic, all advanced technology including, vehicles, credit cards, etc. destroy the personal freedom of people. Because as soon as people are tied and enslaved by cell phones and credit cards. they are not free anymore. They become trackable to the US government

That's silly, it's due to the simple fact that in our present reality, every single thing we do is quantified, archived, etc. thus if you're in the re-appropriation business, it's wise to not use devices which would create an unnecessary paper trail. However, this is out of necessity not for some ideological notions of "freedom," and so on. If X can be used to create the illusion that X is legit, then it will be used, like how Pete Rollack had legit pay stubs and all that for high up SMM members and even went so far as calling it SMM, Inc.


That's why the only place where I will write my thoughts and opinions against the capitalist system and communism as the solution will be in this forum.

If the government is using FB and so on, why not RL?

[Per Levy]

@AmilcarCabral: its nice to see you again here, or maybe it isnt. how many accounts did you had on this site so far? 5 or more? may i ask if you'll close you anti-semitc blog too? you know the one that you were banned for on this forum. if you always come back why dont you change your style for once, you always write the same way, you always quote the same, almost unique way and you so very often start you posts with "dear friend". mix it up a bit and you wont found out so easy. and now leave please, i dont want anti-semites on this site.

[AmilcarCabral]

Vox: I guess you are right. The excess of electronic technology in the lives of people, is just a consequence of evolution and progress, and all humans will have to accept it and live with it.

Fighting against it is really a waste of lots of physical, mental and emotional energies, that will not lead to the overthrow of capitalist governments and its replacement with socialist governments



Trill.



That's silly, it's due to the simple fact that in our present reality, every single thing we do is quantified, archived, etc. thus if you're in the re-appropriation business, it's wise to not use devices which would create an unnecessary paper trail. However, this is out of necessity not for some ideological notions of "freedom," and so on. If X can be used to create the illusion that X is legit, then it will be used, like how Pete Rollack had legit pay stubs and all that for high up SMM members and even went so far as calling it SMM, Inc.



If the government is using FB and so on, why not RL?

[Sperm-Doll Setsuna]

Okay, Trotskist Marxist, it's nice that you are still around and just as confused as always. Like it wasn't pretty obvious that the governments are keeping tabs on people. What a revelation.

[goalkeeper]

I hardly think your third-worldist stalinism is viewed by the state as a major challenge to it.

[Trap Queen Voxxy]

Vox: I guess you are right. The excess of electronic technology in the lives of people, is just a consequence of evolution and progress, and all humans will have to accept it and live with it.

Fighting against it is really a waste of lots of physical, mental and emotional energies, that will not lead to the overthrow of capitalist governments and its replacement with socialist governments

I'm not saying all that, if you want to not use FB, and so on, that's on you, probably better anyway. Personally, I've found such social networks to be pretty boring and such but it's whatever. Like I said, if the government is on FB then they are probably on RL too.

[AmilcarCabral]

Yeah you are right about how boring Facebook is. That's why I quit Facebook, it is damn boring, and people seem to be too apathetic.

And I think that the cause of why many people who are into serious debates of politics, science or any other topic can get bored on Facebook is because when they try to start a debate by writting a comment in any Facebook group, or in the main wall of Facebook, not their closest Facebook friends will reply with answer to it on time.

Some times it takes even days for people to support your idea or comment. Maybe it is because Facebook was originally meant to be a social club and not really meant to be a discussion board like revleft


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I'm not saying all that, if you want to not use FB, and so on, that's on you, probably better anyway. Personally, I've found such social networks to be pretty boring and such but it's whatever. Like I said, if the government is on FB then they are probably on RL too.

[Red_Banner]

Google trashed YouTube with their Google+.

And I thought YouTube was bad before.

Then Facebook gets tiring when people keep posting those same cancer victims all the time.
Or religious crap such as "like Jesus ignore for Satan"; I'm an atheist, that stuff is too tempting to make fun of.

[Yuppie Grinder]

oh rad trotskistmarx is back
and this time he's a stalinist
i miss the jeffersonian socialist trotskist marx
did he ever explain why he spelled trotskyist trotskist?
Edward Snowden is cool.

[Art Vandelay]

did he ever explain why he spelled trotskyist trotskist?

I'm fairly certain its the norweigan spelling.

[Os Cangaceiros]

That's why in many movies you will see that smart criminals, smart professional thieves do not use credit cards, computers, cell phones, private cars, etc.

LOL cyber-criminals make more money than most bank robbers could only fantasize about in their wildest wet dreams

[Alonso Quijano]

Actually, Facebook can be a sheep in wolf's skin, and not necessarily otherwise. It's the gravediggers of capitalism. Motivated by greed, but help people unite.
Without google how many of us would find RevLeft to begin with?

We should take advantage of whatever we can in this system.

[Ethics Gradient, Traitor For All Ages]

The same could be and probably was said about the telephone and television. Facebook isn't going to lead to a wave of internationalism its going to lead to advertising revenue and eventually obsolescence.

[Stalinist Speaker]

Google trashed YouTube with their Google+.

And I thought YouTube was bad before.

Then Facebook gets tiring when people keep posting those same cancer victims all the time.
Or religious crap such as "like Jesus ignore for Satan"; I'm an atheist, that stuff is too tempting to make fun of.

i was bored and made this. (for youtube):laugh:


░░░░░░███████ ]▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄ Stalin is mobilizing the red army to fight google.
▂▄▅█████ ☭ ████▅▄▃▂ ☻/︻╦╤─ This tank & Stalin are against Google+
Il███████████████████]. /▌ Copy and Paste this all over
◥⊙▲⊙▲⊙▲⊙▲⊙▲⊙▲⊙◤.. / \ Youtube, if you unite against capitalism!☭

[Alonso Quijano]

The same could be and probably was said about the telephone and television. Facebook isn't going to lead to a wave of internationalism its going to lead to advertising revenue and eventually obsolescence.
Well, I publish some essays today - and some comrades tell me later that they really enjoyed it and will try thinking about it more - won't it be helpful to the cause?

[khad]

Skimmed the OP. Felt pang of annoyance at yet another self-proclaimed "Marxist" incapable of using the noun "bourgeoisie" properly in a sentence.

[Red_Banner]

i was bored and made this. (for youtube):laugh:


░░░░░░███████ ]▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄ Stalin is mobilizing the red army to fight google.
▂▄▅█████ ☭ ████▅▄▃▂ ☻/︻╦╤─ This tank & Stalin are against Google+
Il███████████████████]. /▌ Copy and Paste this all over
◥⊙▲⊙▲⊙▲⊙▲⊙▲⊙▲⊙◤.. / \ Youtube, if you unite against capitalism!☭


☻/☻ ☻/ ☻/︻╦╤─ ...….................
▂▄▅ /▌ /▌ /▌ █★☭█▅▃▂ Join the resistance
I███████████████████]
◥⊙▲⊙▲⊙▲⊙▲⊙▲⊙▲⊙◤ Fuck Google+

:)

[hatzel]

These types of forums like Revleft.com and other forums like this one with many different sections, sub-sections are a lot better than Facebook for scientific serious debates

What is the link between number of (sub-)sections and suitability for 'scientific serious debates'???

[MEGAMANTROTSKY]

Oh great, a sockpuppet of a banned troll. Cool....

[Yuppie Grinder]

Oh great, a sockpuppet of a banned troll. Cool....

he's not a troll, he's just eccentric

[Q]

On topic...

A while back the Anonymous usergroup (http://www.revleft.com/vb/group.php?groupid=726) was started with the purpose of researching technologies that help our cause against the state and other opposing parties. It has gone a little inactive, but has a much information on this subject. It is not nearly a complete overview though, your help in expanding our knowledge is greatly appreciated!

I myself am soon going to experiment with setting up an OwnCloud (http://owncloud.org/) instance on my home desktop and DarkMail (http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/ladar/lavabits-dark-mail-initiative) and Mailpile (http://www.mailpile.is/) are things worth looking out for.

[EverythingNothing]

I also quit Facebook,the only problem is that a lot of the persons who quit these social networking sites actually think that they are safe.
Not anymore,Your computer can be hijacked/monitored without any activity on these sites,also we can probably assume that this site is monitored too.
It's beyond Facebook,Blogger or any other site..

[Q]

I also quit Facebook,the only problem is that a lot of the persons who quit these social networking sites actually think that they are safe.
Not anymore,Your computer can be hijacked/monitored without any activity on these sites,also we can probably assume that this site is monitored too.
It's beyond Facebook,Blogger or any other site..
As soon as you're on the worldwide web, you need to assume that you're monitored, simple as that. If you don't want that, you can use SSL connections by default (those urls that start with https://...), which can easily be done via this plugin that is available for Firefox and Chrome (https://www.eff.org/https-everywhere).

But that too isn't nearly enough. If you want to move "off the grid", you need to stop using cloud services at all (Gmail, iCloud, etc) or, if you are using it, ensure that data is encrypted on your device before it is uploaded. I use an offsite backup service that does this for eample. Do your research on this point if you decide to use a certain piece of cloud software.

If you want to do more, you can think about running Freenet (https://freenetproject.org/), which sets up a node to connect to a peer-to-peer serverless network. See it as a complete alternative to the usual www, be it that it isn't nearly as advanced and pretty slow. An alternative is i2p (http://www.i2p2.de/) that also works as an alternative to the www, but has more possibilities and works in the traditional server-client model (meaning i2p sites can be brought down). Last but not least there is the TOR network (https://www.torproject.org/), which is probably the most famous but also has a catch.

It too has an alternative network to the www, but it also has gateways to the normal web. This makes it possible to use TOR to browse the web semi-anonimised. I say semi as the gateways that put through that data is mostly controlled by the security agencies that scan all the traffic that pass through. They aren't very good at this yet, or so we hear as they need to resort to taking over servers and stuff (http://www.scmagazine.com/fbi-takeover-of-tor-server-leads-to-arrest/article/311880/), but that's just a matter of time I think.

[EverythingNothing]

Q,this couldn't more well said,
Here is a good clip about making a rogue identity:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vY5vKtPifpA

[Q]

Update: This article (http://www.nrc.nl/nieuws/2013/11/23/nsa-infected-50000-computer-networks-with-malicious-software/) (among many others, it's just the first English one I find on Google) reports how the NSA infected 50 000 networks. So, it's safe to say they are monitoring the complete internet. Even more, this leaked document (http://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2013/11/23/us/politics/23nsa-sigint-strategy-document.html?ref=politics&_r=0) published by the New York Times reports how the NSA tracks 50 million ip addresses at all times, having the most accurate real time map of the internet we know of so far.

[Q]

Also, the latest episode of Techsnap explains in quite simple language how a "man in the middle" attack works and, therefore, why SSL encryption is important. Jupiter Broadcasting (http://www.jupiterbroadcasting.com/) make a ton of awesome shows anyway, so have a watch! (Ironically their site doesn't seem to support SSL connections).

pbOHeyJW76s

[Q]

People might be liking this one: Safeplug (https://pogoplug.com/safeplug)! It's a wifi router that sets up a TOR node. You set it and forget it. Only thing you need to do is connect to it on the wifi of your computer or mobile. Furthermore, reading their FAQ, it looks like they're auto-enabling an exit node (those nodes that act as gateways to the normal worldwide web), making this a super awesome device that seriously undermines the effectiveness of the exit nodes the security agencies are running as more people have such a safeplug at home :)

[Sea]

People might be liking this one: Safeplug (https://pogoplug.com/safeplug)! It's a wifi router that sets up a TOR node. You set it and forget it. Only thing you need to do is connect to it on the wifi of your computer or mobile. Furthermore, reading their FAQ, it looks like they're auto-enabling an exit node (those nodes that act as gateways to the normal worldwide web), making this a super awesome device that seriously undermines the effectiveness of the exit nodes the security agencies are running as more people have such a safeplug at home :)

Cool, thanks for the link. I'm gonna have to spam this around to all my information security homies.

[Q]

Cool, thanks for the link. I'm gonna have to spam this around to all my information security homies.
Yes, update on that: I've sent them a mail because the FAQ is actually ambiguous on what it exactly sets up. It could "just" be a relay node (already improving the network, as there is a big shortage of them) or also an exit node. Sadly, I never got a definitive reply.

See this page on the differences between types of nodes (http://www.bsdnow.tv/tutorials/tor).

Even if it doesn't sport an exit node (by default), I still think it's a pretty awesome product that's ideal for those less tech savvy.

[Sea]

Yes, update on that: I've sent them a mail because the FAQ is actually ambiguous on what it exactly sets up. It could "just" be a relay node (already improving the network, as there is a big shortage of them) or also an exit node. Sadly, I never got a definitive reply.

See this page on the differences between types of nodes (http://www.bsdnow.tv/tutorials/tor).

Even if it doesn't sport an exit node (by default), I still think it's a pretty awesome product that's ideal for those less tech savvy.Wasn't there talk of making the default / sample torrc set up an exit node by default? Do you know what became of that?

[Q]

Wasn't there talk of making the default / sample torrc set up an exit node by default? Do you know what became of that?
Are you talking about Safeplug or about the default TOR setup?

Anyway, I just got confirmation from the Safeplug people that relays and exit nodes are both by default set to off. Users can then manually switch them on.

This is a real pity in my opinion as most people using these kinds of products (the less geeky yet privacy aware people) will not look into these settings or even know they exist. All that Safeplug, by default, does is leech off the network on the back of others only making the network more locked up, not less.

For that reason my enthusiasm for this dropped like a brick.

[blake 3:17]

Thanks Q. I need to examine this stuff more closely & make some decisions about it. I'm not super concerned with my own privacy -- I've had my phone tapped before & just always assume whatever I'm doing is being monitored in some way, not that I'm mostly doing anything the authorities would give a shit about or could do anything about. I do find that certain attempts at being more clandestine just make whatever it is I'm doing make me look suspicious. And yeah I've played with different browsers and so on but if I'm not paying close attention it gets cumbersome.

On a very basic level, I've become more enthused about old fashioned pre-internet technologies -- stuff like books and magazines and CDs and records that aren't anyway connected to the web. Or if I transmit something or get something off of it, put it on something that doesn't keep track of what I'm doing. I liked cassettes for a reason! I like note pads and pens for a reason! They couldn't tell any other device what I was doing or thinking or even attempting to guess what I was doing...