View Full Version : What should be built instead of the World Trade Centre?
Mclaren
18th December 2001, 21:22
What should be built. Small buildings. A tower or what?
Moskitto
18th December 2001, 21:44
A Memorial?
Mclaren
18th December 2001, 21:48
Of course. But after that. Lots of survvers are uneployed.
Dreadnaht1
18th December 2001, 22:00
I got the perfect thing, just leave it like it is with the hole and all the corpses then make a huge sign pointing to it and saying: "What goes around comes around."
Comrade Dread
Mclaren
18th December 2001, 22:05
FUCK OFF. So inocent people deserved to die. Or children who were visiting with ther moms. Or people who jumped out.
FUCK FUCK FUCK OFF. I don't want to know.
You are sick and just keep your mouth shut!
socialistEUROPEAN
18th December 2001, 22:11
'What goes around, comes goes around,' lol, PERFECTO
CommieBastard
18th December 2001, 22:11
i never heard any suggestions form brits or the US that a memorial should be built in lebanon...
peculiar that considering how more than 4,000 more people died...
not that i'm saying nothing should be put there, just that if you're going to do that kind of shit you have to do shit for everyone, or you can just fuck off and die yourself, if you value some people's lives above others.
CheGuevara
18th December 2001, 22:14
You know, a lot of innocent people died. A lot of people in the service industry such as dish washers and other kitchen workers in restaurants such as Windows on the World died. They, unlike the office workers, were really probably pretty poorly informed about the attack and kept in the dark, with no computers or TVs or radios in their workplaces. That is to say nothing of the brave firemen or the rescue workers, and even some of the cops(heh, for me to say anything positive about fucking pigs means they have to really do quite a lot). And that's to say nothing of the hundreds of other people who died, most of whom were not capitalists per se but their far higher paid minions.
Dreadnaht1
18th December 2001, 22:14
Me? Keep my fingers silent? I'm not the one flooding the message board. And, no, alot of those people sure didn't deserve to die but the point of my post was to show how the U$A caused the attacks, indirectly.
CommieBastard
18th December 2001, 22:17
Then maybe a small memorial with the words:
"Killed by their own government"
would be in order
Dreadnaht1
18th December 2001, 23:02
Amen to that.
And a halaluya sinner too.
ARKANS TIGER
18th December 2001, 23:35
as i watched the towers fall with my naked eye..standing on that hill in school , staring off into the new york skyline which was being decimated as we watched...all i could help to think about was the destruction caused by NATO(US) bombs being dropped on my homeland of yugoslavia . even though i know this is a self inflicted wound..i cant help but feel sadness as a new yorker..so i say just rebuild them..and let the next organization take a whack at them
Capitalist
18th December 2001, 23:49
DreadNaught1 is the only true Che GueVara Supporter on this site.
He understands the ideals of Che GueVara's Anti-American, Anti-Imperlistic, Anti-Capitalistic, ideals.
He understands that Che GueVara - if alive today - would be very agreeable with the statement "What Comes Around Goes Around" - and very happy with the results of Sept 11.
Sept 11 - attacks on 2 Great American Capitalistic Icons (The Trade Towers) and 1 Great American Imperlistic Icon (The Pentagon).
If you support Che GueVara - You better understand fully what you support - like DreadNaught1 (who by the way is from New York - according to his/her profile)
This is why I do not support the ideals or the life of Che GueVara.
American Capitalism and Influence only brings good to the world. I now see people being freed in Afgahnistan. I predict Afgahnistan, like Japan, Germany, Russia, etc. will become the United State's greatest ally. We have brought freedom, democracy, and free capitalism to Afgahnistan.
Goodbye, Taliban
libereco
18th December 2001, 23:54
Quote: from Capitalist on 12:49 am on Dec. 19, 2001
DreadNaught1 is the only true Che GueVara Supporter on this site.
He understands the ideals of Che GueVara's Anti-American, Anti-Imperlistic, Anti-Capitalistic, ideals.
He understands that Che GueVara - if alive today - would be very agreeable with the statement "What Comes Around Goes Around" - and very happy with the results of Sept 11.
Sept 11 - attacks on 2 Great American Capitalistic Icons (The Trade Towers) and 1 Great American Imperlistic Icon (The Pentagon).
If you support Che GueVara - You better understand fully what you support - like DreadNaught1 (who by the way is from New York - according to his/her profile)
This is why I do not support the ideals or the life of Che GueVara.
American Capitalism and Influence only brings good to the world. I now see people being freed in Afgahnistan. I predict Afgahnistan, like Japan, Germany, Russia, etc. will become the United State's greatest ally. We have brought freedom, democracy, and free capitalism to Afgahnistan.
Goodbye, Taliban
yes, and you freed most of south america as well, supporting military governments that destroy any democratic order.
not only che-admireres should know who they are praising.
the same applies to YOU, capitalist, you simply don't know whats your government is really doing in this world. So inform yourself.
(Edited by libereco at 2:44 pm on Dec. 19, 2001)
Dreadnaht1
19th December 2001, 00:00
Yeah, I'm a New Yorker too but I don't think rebuilding is the best idea. Mostly because they were A.)a sign of how much evil truly is in this naton, reigning down and casting a shadow over South America and B.)they were also the headquarters of several mutinational corporations. It was a tragedy, sure, it would of been better if they hit Wall Street though :x
Rebiuld them or not I think Bush said it best in one of his great speeche's: "...and the people who knocked these buildings down can hear you..." He was right, Bush coud hear himself.
Also thought I'd add that the Pentagon was not part of the tragedy, except for the people on the plane. The people killed that were INSIDE the pentagon were NOT innocent.
Comrade Dread
(Edited by Dreadnaht1 at 7:03 am on Dec. 19, 2001)
Dreadnaht1
19th December 2001, 00:15
Capitalist:"He understands the ideals of Che GueVara's Anti-American, Anti-Imperlistic, Anti-Capitalistic, ideals."
Why thank you.
Capitalist:"He understands that Che GueVara - if alive today - would be very agreeable with the statement "What Comes Around Goes Around" - and very happy with the results of Sept 11. "
Che would swing both ways like me (so I assume), happy because capitalism got taken down and the military disrupted shortly, sad at the innocet loss of life--he states in his book Guerilla Warfare that he condemns all acts of terrorism. Psychic, eh?
Capitalist:"American Capitalism and Influence only brings good to the world. I now see people being freed in Afgahnistan. I predict Afgahnistan, like Japan, Germany, Russia, etc. will become the United State's greatest ally. We have brought freedom, democracy, and free capitalism to Afgahnistan."
Capitalism is good, good at bringing greed and corruption into the world. As for people being freed in Afghanistan I've seen plenty of photos of bodies in ditches. I suppose that's the only 'freedom' from America these days. Instead of braught freedom to Afghanistan we have baught them and added them to our collection of nations we now control.
And the empire grows.
Comrade Dread
I Will Deny You
19th December 2001, 00:36
"What goes around comes around"? I wouldn't hold my breath.
While I certainly agree that it's true, I think America's newfound interest in something besides McDonald's should be taken advantage of. Why not create a new charity (now that Americans are feeling more charitable than ever, even though it's still not nearly enough) that will feed orphans around the world? Plenty of kids from all over the globe lost parents in the 9/11 attacks, and of course there are orphans in Afghanistan. And, if you name a charity after 9/11 and put it where the WTC used to be, people would be a lot less likely to forget about it and will continue donating money for a long time.
It would be one of the few ways to take advantage of this newfound blind U.S. patriotism. Even if we're feeding orphans in poor countries whose rulers align themselves with the U.S., an orphan is an orphan whether they're born in Saudi Arabia or Iraq. Better to feed some poor kids than no poor kids, right?
CHUX39
19th December 2001, 00:45
why when people die no matter who they are (civilian or soldier), how does that always make them innocent?
while i kinda miss my towers why make another death trap.
Guest
19th December 2001, 02:02
Quote: from Dreadnaht1 on 11:00 pm on Dec. 18, 2001
I got the perfect thing, just leave it like it is with the hole and all the corpses then make a huge sign pointing to it and saying: "What goes around comes around."
Comrade Dread
You're a bigger asshole than TavareeshKamo himself. On second thought, I take that back - he's a pretty big asshole. But you come in a CLOSE second. Asshole.
Dreadnaht1
19th December 2001, 02:09
Dammit TavareeshKamo, why do you always have to be the biggest 'asshole'? Why can't I be the biggest for once?
Comrade Dread
Guest
19th December 2001, 02:17
Quote: from Dreadnaht1 on 1:15 am on Dec. 19, 2001
Che would swing both ways like me (so I assume), happy because capitalism got taken down and the military disrupted shortly...The military disrupted? Have you seen the news? The U.S. military has been crushing the Taliban's and al Qaeda's little nuts. Some disruption. Oh, but you've seen pictures of bodies in ditches. I guess that means that the Afghans consider themselves worse off now, right? Don't you bump into things walking around with your head up your ass? Do you have a seeing-eye dog? Make another funny post please.
Guest
19th December 2001, 03:31
I suppose the curiosity that drove me to read this forum has paid off. If these messages are indicative of the sort of inhuman hypocracy that is characteristic of socialism, then I join the ranks of the rest of the world, save the diluted individuals who inhabit this forum, in thanking America for helping rid humanity of socialism and its variants.
After I read your messages, in this thread and others, and I couldn't help but be angered...for a bit. Then I realized that despite your delusions, not only in respect to politics, but also in respect to your intellectual self-estimations- you don't matter, and no one is and will listen to you.
Right now your probably seething in your indignancy, of course you matter, cause you're right and Capitalist oppression must be overthrown, and it will become evident through the workers...blah, blah, blah.
I beg you to show me a place where the "capitalist" are "exploiting" the people, and then show me a place where there is no "exploitation". I guarantee you that empirical evidence suggests that being "exploited" by the "capitalists" is infinately better than not being "exploited." Afghanistan, like Western Europe, and much of east Asia, will soon enter the domain of "capitalist exploiters" and then once again you will all see how bad "capitalist exploitation" is.
One last thought, for those armchair philosophers, specially those with the pseudo-mystical, materialism bad, trip. If a societal ailment created by capitalism is the "contorted" definition of happiness through material attainment. Then what else are you going to define happiness, nay, progress, by? Unless of course you think that we'd all be better off in some utopian anarchic natural states where we wear deer pelts over our privates, and lack the modern health technologies that allow us to survive such mundane things as our first ten years of live.
Listen I know the lives of some of you guys must suck, as you have to take refuge in a defunct ideology to piss off your parents. But historically things have never been better. You guys have to begin distinguishing the personal from the historical, while your lives suck, the world and humanity has never had it so good. Granted it sucks for some, like those who hold aristocratic title, they might have lived better two hundred years ago, but everyone else is fairing better. History has not buried a lost eden within the "capitalist" revision some of you guys assume exists. Today more people than ever have more than ever, and each day that number keeps growing. Like I said, humanity has never had it so good, thanks in part to capitalism.
Dreadnaht1
19th December 2001, 03:55
I'm sorry, 'humanity has never had it so good'? Whoa I don't think I'm the one with my head up my ass. Here are a few examples of how good humanity has it:
Southern Mexico-Zapatista Uprising
Palestine-Hamas Uprising
Colombia-Slave Labor
Argentina-Starving nation
Guatemala-Total chaos caused by US backed regime
Cuba-poverty caused by US Trade Embargo
Former USSR-Poverse, lack of food, lack of order do to Soviet Union collapse
Israel-Zionist Terrorism
Afghanisan-US Bombing
Iraq-Suddam Hussein
Middle East-Exploited by all magor imperialist powers
USA-opressed and destoyed by it's own governmnt (ie WTC)
And I know there are tons more I forgot but my point is still shown--AS LONG AS CAPITALISM EXISTS PROLETARIOT & PEASENT OPRESSION WILL EXIST.
Looks like the Capitalists can't read either because I said, "...brief disruption of the army." It did take 3 weeks before we went to war, hence a brief period of army disruption.
And "...in thanking america for helping rid humanity of socialism and it's variants." Ok have we forgotten about Cuba?
So that's my funny post for today.
Comrade Dread
(Edited by Dreadnaht1 at 10:56 am on Dec. 19, 2001)
(Edited by Dreadnaht1 at 10:57 am on Dec. 19, 2001)
Red Star
19th December 2001, 04:12
Realistically to answer your question Mclauren I heard they might build something called the phantom towers. Its laser lights that would shine up at night and it looks like the World Trade Center. I am dissapointed at some of you for you disrespect to the victims.
MJM
19th December 2001, 05:54
I was happy about the pentagon, not too happy about the WTC and all the people.
I feel sorry for all the people killed by the US foriegn policy no matter what race or creed.
Derar
19th December 2001, 07:07
all my respects to u comrade dreadnaht .
i agree with all u said .
i suggest a sign with ( oops , friendly fire )
,or ( u get what u give )
a some info to the ppl here ........ the cia had lots of offices in WTC , using it to rage civil wars in third world countries and spreading capitalism .
CHUX39
19th December 2001, 16:17
thanks for that info derar, i would like to know where you got it so i can see it myself. also thas the best quote i've seen
CommieBastard
19th December 2001, 17:03
Well, as soon as i saw what the guest had to say i had to post a reply, so apologies if someone else has already replied by saying this:
THE PEOPLE OF AFGHANISTAN ARE NOT FREE
They fear for their lives just as much as they did when the taliban where in power... if not more. THe NA has had power there before, and all that that meant was death and destruction.
And about afghanistan moving into capitalism, that is in fact an advance. IF you actually knew about socialist thought it sees societal progression as going thusly:
Feudalism(afghan) --> Capitalism(US) --> Dicatatorship of the Proletariat(Cuba) --> State of the People (nowhere as yet)
As for capitalists exploiting the people..
can you please explain to me why exactly europe has food excesses, with 'mountains' and 'lakes' of surplus agricultural produce, and yet the people working in third world sweat shops are starving.
Is there any kind of actual sense to this?
then we could look at the workers in first world countries (altho increasingly the bourgoisie-proletariat divide is becoming a national divide). The workers are paid say, £10 for some work, which produces something worth £100 for the managers to sell. The managers get £70, and reinvest £20 into the business.
now where exactly is the sense in this? The workers work just as hard, if not harder, than the managers, and yet will get paid fractions of what their bosses are paid. It's a fucking joke.
As for whether i matter, NO i don't matter, but neither do you, or anyone else. In the end we are but dust, in death are we equal, and so in life should we be treated as such.
and where the fuck in communism is there an idea that we should get rid of technology? The USSR and Cuba have had much better systems of healthcare for the actual GNP than most other nations, including the bloody US.
And you are right to say that humanity has never had it so good, but communism is not an ideology that looks back, obviously you are confusing it with conservatism..
communism is a progressive one, and sees society as having progressed from feudalism to capitalism, and in turn sees the next stage as socialism.
As for my life sucking and my feeling a need to piss my parents off... that is absolute shite, because my life has never been so good as since i adopted my leftist philosophies, i am now living a happy 'sex, drugs & rock n roll' lifestyle, and as it happens, i get on with my parents quite well (and NO, they arent communists)
RedCeltic
19th December 2001, 17:38
I'm sick of people who don't live in New York to tell us we need to buld another stupid meaningless stinking monument. We have enough stupid monuments, and the provide nothing useful. Comrade Dread had more of a right to poke fun at atempts to buld a monument than non New Yorkers have rights to mourn for 9/11.
Hundereds of homeless people die of exposure every winter on the cold mean streets of New York City, they have no monuments bult for them. Every train station, bus station, alcove, nook and cranny is home to some poor desprate soul in NYC. No one gave a shit about them before 9/11... now everyone says " I was a New Yorker on that day" what the fuck do they know about being a New Yorker?
In a city where the oh so very rich and powerful work in towers far up in the sky... far away from the filth and grime of humanity on the streets below, people need to be brought into the reality of the world around them. Brought to the realisation that capitalism kills.
Mclaren
19th December 2001, 19:58
I'm not saying that amercia has not got a bad image or that is has not done bad things but that dosen't jusitfy people flying lpanes into buildings and lots of innocnet people being killed.
Kez
19th December 2001, 20:13
I think that we should build a massive 1Km height statue of Lenin, with him in his pose where he is holding his script/newspaper, and if any enemy planes try to come at that statue, sam sights appear from the groud and blow the kaka outta the terrorists.
Also where Lenins statues shoes would be , they whold be made outta donuts and bagels, which would be refilled everyday for the poor and homeless to eat.
Also for the homeless, they should be able to sleep in Lenins pockets.
comrade kamo
Moskitto
19th December 2001, 20:39
I'm going to begin a long rantish post about Che Guaverra.
1. I am not a Che Guevarra supporter.
I came to this forum because it's were Socialists are, not because I'm a Che wanna. Infact I admire Rosa Luxemburg Greatly.
2. Che Guevarra would not have supported the WTC attacks. Please read Guerrilla Warfare and he makes it clear that he wouldn't. I made a post quoting extracts from Guerrilla Warfare (http://www.geocities.com/redencyclopedia/guevara.htm) which shows that he condones terrorism in the Q and A forum?
CommieBastard
19th December 2001, 20:46
Mclaren, you are right that it does not justify such acts.
But it is still the USA's fault when they set up and arm such groups as al-qaida, if those groups then turn on them. They support these bastards simply because they were against commies, and it was inevitable that sooner or later someone would turn round and whack em with their own weapons...
Soledad Brother
19th December 2001, 20:59
Although I was born and raised in America, when I first heard of the events of Sept 11, my first thought was something that Malcolm X had said "case of the chickens coming home to roost" when you put out violence, violence comes back to you.
Derar
19th December 2001, 22:07
here is a link to where u can read about the secret cia office that was in the WTC .
http://www.usatoday.com/news/attack/2001/1...cia-station.htm (http://www.usatoday.com/news/attack/2001/11/04/cia-station.htm)
Guest
20th December 2001, 03:48
Quote: from Soledad Brother on 9:59 pm on Dec. 19, 2001
...my first thought was something that Malcolm X had said "case of the chickens coming home to roost" when you put out violence, violence comes back to you.
Kinda like how al Qaeda and the Taliban got their shit seriously waxed? Man, you ain't kidding when you say the chickens came home to roost. Roost like a mother-f*cker! They got strangled with their own turbans! What went around came around, ran over them, backed up, and took a big steaming turd on them. I hear ya.
Freiheit
20th December 2001, 07:02
what should they build instead of the world trade center, mhhm?
food for the hungry
homes for homeless
clothes for the nacked
health care for the tortured
freedom for political prisoners
schools for the uneducated
prisons for the capitalists
equality for the oppressed
life for the poor
light for darkened
.
.
.
they should spend their money for stuff like that instead of crap!
Dreadnaht1
20th December 2001, 22:33
Anyone who has ever been to downtown New York has seen the homeless there who get absolutely no respect, attention, or help from passerby's. Is it really that hard to throw a $50 in their McDonalds cup? That only sickens me further that they're using McDonalds cups to collect change when in fact McDonalds is the one stealing money from the needy and the lower class people.
So instead of a monument of any kind let's spend that money on the homeless instead. Seems reasonable.
Comrade Dread
el che1220
20th December 2001, 22:42
it seems there are lots of dumbasses in Lafayette, Lousiana....right guest? lol lol....
Dreadnaht1
20th December 2001, 22:44
hahahaha...
El Commandante
20th December 2001, 22:46
I think that there should be some sort of monument, but a monument to the people that died and the suffering, not to the economic loss. The towers should not be rebuild, as an act of "defiance" or basically as a monument to capitalism.
The money should be spent on things that are needed by the poor and destitute and give them food, medical treatment, build public hospitals, schools, anything but a means of making money.
revolutionary spirit
20th December 2001, 23:32
i think they should build a WSWC[World Socialist Worker's Centre] where the WTC once stood
flames of the flag
20th December 2001, 23:56
I think that ground zero should be forested. With the corpses of complacent consumers fertilizing the soil.
A monument you say?
how about a monument on the cracking foundations of an afghan mud home. a building that doesn't provide us with food or shelter, then what's it for?
what if north americans started thinking that way
revolutionary spirit
21st December 2001, 00:12
that sounds better
Griffin
21st December 2001, 04:18
how about 100 foot singing statues of che, fidel, lenin, marx, etc singing some catchy tune?
Dreadnaht1
22nd December 2001, 18:11
That's a great idea--they could sing No Shelter by Rage Against the Machine!
Coca-Cola was back in the veins of Saigon what you need is what they sellin they got you thinking that buying is rebelling--Godzilla pure motha fuckin filla get your eyes on the real killers. Searching for the thin line between entertainment and war! There be no shelter here...that frontline is everywhere...
Yeah I'm sure Lenin had a lovely singing voice :)
Comrade Dread
JOSELUIS
26th December 2001, 22:18
I mean, i was there looking at these muthafuckers taking nosedives and whatnot off the fuking tower and watching already unstable middle class working folk lose their fuking heads in the middle off the street for all to see; while Mr. Smith, father of two, with a house in the Hamptons and a promising career in architectual engineering, was screaming the whole way down and at the end a violent thud. With all this happening in my hungover state at about 9:30 in the morning all i could feel was a sick but honest feeling of "I KNEW IT, GIVE ME GUNS AND SHIT SO I CAN START SHOOTING, HA-HOLY-SHIT, THIS AINT A JOKE, I'LL LET THESE MUTHAFUCKERS KNOW WE MEAN BUSINESS. I MAY BE WALKING DOWN THE SAME DAMN STREET AS YOU MR. BUSINESS MAN BUT I'LL BURN THIS FUCKIN FLAG AND SHOOT YOU IN THE HEAD MR. BUSINESS MAN-AND YOU KNOW WHY? CAUSE ITS FUCKS LIKE YOU WHO FOLLOW ME AROUND THE FUCKIN MACY'S LIKE IM GONNA STEAL SOMETHING, CAUSE ITS FUCKS WHO THINK LIKE YOU, THAT THINK THAT THE POLICE ARE HERE TO "PROTECT AND TO SERVE", BECAUSE-IT-IS-FUCKS-LIKE-YOU-WHO LOOK AT THE COLUMBINE HIGH SHOOTING AND DONT THINK THAT THAT TYPE OF SHIT HAPPENS BECAUSE OF FUCKS-LIKE-YOU." So with that in mind, fuck a monument. Just a statue of Yeshua the annointed one with his hair of wool and feet of copper and a caption that says: "WOE UNTO THE WORLD BECAUSE OF OFFENCES! FOR IT MUST NEEDS BE THAT OFEENCES COME; BUT WOE TO THAT MAN BY WHOM THE OFFENCE COMETH!
libereco
27th December 2001, 01:13
actually...the people that jumped out of those towers didn't die from the impact.
After a while of falling your lungs can't take the pressure anymore and explode.
RedCeltic
27th December 2001, 01:30
Strange thing that.... I remember as a kid we took a trip up to the top of one of those buldings.... it was raining that day so we only went up to the observation deck. I remember leaning on the glass asking the teacher what it would be like to jump? And saying, " it's not that I'm afrade to fall... Just afrade of the sudden stop!" And she said, " Oh you'd be dead before you hit the ground child."
MJM
27th December 2001, 03:31
Quote: from libereco on 2:13 pm on Dec. 27, 2001
actually...the people that jumped out of those towers didn't die from the impact.
After a while of falling your lungs can't take the pressure anymore and explode.
Are you sure about this, what about skydiving?
You're not thinking of deep sea divers rising to the surface to fast are you?
Sasafrás
27th December 2001, 06:53
Hmmm... Leave it alone.. I'm not actually superstituous but something new would surely be haunted. I think there should be a nothing.. Just nothing, That's all I can think of. :) Have a great day!
Dreadnaht1
27th December 2001, 07:22
I've been in the WTC more then 2 or 3 times and now that I think about it it's kind of creepy. That same creepy feeling you get when you think about Che trying to get a Visa to USA. I mean what the hell was he thinking!?
iViva Commandante Guevara!
El Commandante
27th December 2001, 10:19
I went up the Tower once when I was on a holiday and I get that creepy feeling that your talking about Dread, it's a very strange feeling.
Kez
27th December 2001, 10:38
Those capitalist whore would never build a building for the poor of nyc, coz then the outside world would realise what a shithole america is.
comrade kamo
peaccenicked
27th December 2001, 20:02
After the pockets of the slayers have suffered enough.
There will be a hall of liberty where Obwankanobi whispers old tales of schizophrenia.
Dreadnaht1
28th December 2001, 05:03
...
Anonymous
28th December 2001, 16:13
i think they will rebuild the towers or build something similiar to show the world that you cant keep freedom and democracy down and other such folish notions. Besides ground 0 is in the center of new york do you realy think all those hungry capitalists could keep there hands off such a valuable piece of relestate? monument my ass...
El Commandante
28th December 2001, 16:39
El_Che, I agree with you that because of how mercenary the business bosses in NY are I think that if they do build a monument it will be inside another complex that the build there.
I know that two monuments have been commissioned, one is going to be made of bronze and it is the three fire men raising the American flag at ground zero. The other will be made of the remaining wall that was left because that was a part that was very carefully taken down, and they said that it would feature in some sort of monument.
Mclaren
28th December 2001, 18:57
No its that your lungscan't get the pressure inside low enough so they don't work
the REVOLUTION
29th December 2001, 00:28
Look Comrades, many innocent people have died over decades because of U.S. foreign policy. When it doesn't hit home, why are our sympathies less. Many innocent people died in Sept. but many EVIL people (setting economic agendas for global corporations) died as well. These are tthe ones that need to go down. I suggest a massive statue of Che with the line: "I am alive and well!" Now i know that i will get jumped on this, but i am not suggesting that Che would carry an act like this out. It is meant to relay the message that Capitalism is and will fall.
Dreadnaht1
29th December 2001, 00:32
Che condmened terrorism many a time and I would think Che would only resort to terrorism if it was of real value and purpose. For example, instead of knocking down useless biuldings Che would make the White House or Pentagon explode.
Comrade Dread
the REVOLUTION
29th December 2001, 09:24
These fuckin' capitalist are pushing it. The constantly attack our opions on a situation and never have anything to back up their point. Note to Capitalist: FUCK YOU ALL! Capitalism will fall. All of your high-tech weapons cannot hold back the billions of people that will revolt and wipe your dirty, murderous system out. Be prepared to fight you assholes, because before you know it i will have a gun pointed at your head, with no hesitation to pull the trigger and free the souls of the damned.
Zippy
29th December 2001, 16:36
Why not build a big multi-million pound dome ? Thats a good idea.
I dont think any government can go wrong building a dome in this day and age, especially when our health, education and transport services are in such good shape they dont need any money.
Zippy.
Kez
30th December 2001, 13:22
I reckon they should build a 700 metre Gold Statue of Zippy, and if any planes come to attack it, it shouts out "FANTASTICOLAAAAAAAAAAAAAA" and then sam sites come out and blow the crazy fukkers up
comrade kamo
Dreadnaht1
30th December 2001, 18:27
"These fuckin' capitalist are pushing it. The constantly attack our opions on a situation and never have anything to back up their point. Note to Capitalist: FUCK YOU ALL! Capitalism will fall. All of your high-tech weapons cannot hold back the billions of people that will revolt and wipe your dirty, murderous system out. Be prepared to fight you assholes, because before you know it i will have a gun pointed at your head, with no hesitation to pull the trigger and free the souls of the damned."
I know I'll be standing behind you, comrade.
Comrade Dread
El Commandante
30th December 2001, 19:51
Zippy, when you mentioned the dome, I don't know if you knew, but TB offered the dome to Bush, for a small price, haha. As a means of covering the site from prying eyes and keeping tourists away. It probably would have done a good job, it managed it in London.
Derar
31st December 2001, 00:47
i have an idea ....... how about onother wtc with only cia offices in it ...... the most important ones !
and whenever the usa fucks up some other country , the wtc just blows up by itself !!
Zippy
31st December 2001, 13:31
Quote: from El Commandante on 8:51 pm on Dec. 30, 2001
It probably would have done a good job, it managed it in London.
*laughs*
To be honest, that dome made me proud. It was built to show the world what was good about Britain, and it had the worlds largest McDonalds inside it. Amazing really wasnt it ?
Zippy.
El Commandante
31st December 2001, 15:09
The dome managed to be a collection of the biggest load of crap known to man. I was so proud as well, thinking about the number of hospitals and schools that could have been built instead.
It sure was an amazing day, one amazingly bad day!
Dreadnaht1
31st December 2001, 19:03
Derar:"i have an idea ....... how about onother wtc with only cia offices in it ...... the most important ones !
and whenever the usa fucks up some other country , the wtc just blows up by itself !!"
Yeah but then it would just constantly explode, the second it was rebuilt BOOM!
Comrade Dread
flames of the flag
31st December 2001, 20:37
the wtc site is generating income because of tourism. people are profiting from the attack on capitalism, that's shitty.
they should built an art gallery with pictures of sweatshop workers, afghan kids, diamond miners, etc. all sorts of people getting fucked by american capitalism. that way when tourist pay to get in, their lifestyle is indited. they think about what the green paper they just passed on means. That would make feel uncomfortable and they could be getting burned by capitalism too.
the REVOLUTION
2nd January 2002, 03:48
Thanx for standing by my side Comrade Dread. Its gonna be a long bloody battle!
Kez
3rd January 2002, 13:03
They should build a 100 metre statue of ME, as the quasi supreme ruler of the world
:)
comrade kamo
El Commandante
3rd January 2002, 17:27
But you're such a phatty you'd block out the sun!
But that could be cool ....
(Private joke between a select few, oooh an air of mystery)
Kez
3rd January 2002, 17:43
ur so fat, when u wear high heels (coz u cross dress) that u break oil, after which esso comes and fucks u over
comrade kamo directed to el commanfatdante
El Commandante
3rd January 2002, 20:02
To Tavareeshfato: You're so fat you make a yankee look thin!
Dreadnaht1
3rd January 2002, 20:35
aint that the truth
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