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EverythingNothing
5th November 2013, 13:00
I was outraged in English class...we got a sheet of paper to work on,we had a long text and some tasks to solve,after reading the text

What are your views on it? I was going mad,even sawing how the teacher fully agrees with it..this is the capitalistic mental they feed on the youth...

FULL TEXT:

The results are in: money can buy happiness, but it doesn't come cheap. Not only that, the amount of happiness your money can buy can be measured.
I know this runs contrary to everything we've ever heard since childhood about money—"It can't buy happiness, it can't buy health, and it can't buy love." But the facts don't support this.
First, according to surveys, the rich are more optimistic about their lives. Optimism is a major factor in happiness.
Second, medical evidence shows those with more money live longer, healthier lives than those with less. There are always the stories featuring the rich kid who rebelled and died of an overdose or the monied uncle who had a heart attack while living the high life, but on average, those with more money live longer and healthier lives. Not only that, but despite all the food they can buy with their loot, the rich tend to be thinner than the poor, another sign of good health.
In the Whitehall Survey, conducted at University College London, 17,000 civil servants have been followed. All are well educated and have the same access to health care. Yet the clerks at the bottom of the income scale have triple the mortality rate as those at the top. A U.S. study involving 300,000 men, called the Multiple Risk Intervention Factor, discovered every income class was healthier than the classes below them and sicker than the ones above.
Third, a 1998 survey conducted by the magazine Town & Country shows people with more money tend to have better marriages, are happier with the friends they make, and find their jobs more interesting.
I know we've been told different. But it ain't true. Sorry.
These studies come as no surprise to me. Over the years I've said, quite frankly, I believe money can buy happiness. My comment is usually greeted with raised eyebrows and insinuations there's something morally wrong with me. In ensuing discussions I've tried to explain that it's not like you can go to the market and buy two pounds of happiness. ("I'll take it in red and sign me up for the 10-year warranty, please.") I've maintained money can make you happier because it represents freedom and time. With money you can buy convenience and other people's time. By convenience I mean that more of the necessities in life are readily available to you. When I say you can buy time, I mean time in two senses: First, because your health improves and you are
likely to buy a few more good years of life. Second, every time I write a check to the guy who mows my lawn, I am literally buying his time to do something I don't want or don't have time to do myself. Of course, because I'm not rich, I have to put in my own time to earn the money I use to buy his. But if I were rich, I'd no longer have to use the limited amount of time I have on this planet to buy someone else's time. I'd just write a check.
How much money do you need to be rich? J. Paul Getty, one of the world's richest men when he was alive, said, "If you can actually count your money then you are not really a rich man." But a fellow I once worked with was more realistic. He didn't need billions of dollars. He just needed enough so he didn't have to work (though he was sure he still would), so he didn't have to worry about bills, and so that every couple of years he could go down to the local car lot, pay cash for a new vehicle, and not have to think about the money he spent.
How much do the experts say is enough? In a study conducted by Andrew Oswald and Jonathan Gardner at the University of Warwick, in Coventry, England, they discovered about 1.5 million tax-free American dollars moved most people into the top 2% on the happiness scale. Their study also revealed that, at the low end of the scale, each $75,000 moves one between 1/10 and 3/10 standard deviations (which is a measure of how statistical data is spread out) up the "happiness" scale. To a mathematician (my degree is in mathematics) this is significant.
This is not to say only the rich are happy or you can only be happy if you're rich. Lots of people are happy. But, if you have lots of dough, it's likely that you're going to be even happier.
Are there people who are both rich and unhappy? Of course. For those who thrive on schadenfreude, the Warwick study is replete with examples of people who discovered they were miserable just laying about. One, Dawn Wilby, won £4 million (almost $6 million) and was unhappy until she took a job for £12,000 (about $20,000) a year. She hasn't caught on that with money, as with Viagra, you can't just lay there and expect results. You've got to do something to get the benefit.
Other studies I read that purportedly demonstrate the opposite—that money leads to misery—were about well-paid executives who got huge bonuses but were still unhappy. I discounted these because they concentrated only on office jealousies and dissatisfaction that arose because the subjects wish they'd gotten more. There's no mention of their home lives, whether they feel relief from the pressure of bills, etc. It is as though their jobs were the only things that mattered. These studies are so narrow they are tantamount to proving marriage makes a man's life worse by focusing only on his relationship with his mother-in-law.
On the other hand, years ago I read an article in the Ventura, California, Star about lottery winners and one fellow who said the money made him unhappy because people kept asking him for loans. That's not unhappiness; that's annoyance. It's like complaining about mosquitoes when you take a trip to Hawaii. You ain't getting my sympathy, pal.
But the last word on this comes from my friend, Cathy. When she heard I was writing this column, she said, "Anyone who thinks money can't buy happiness just doesn't know where to shop."

Rafiq
5th November 2013, 13:57
Cut the bullshit conservatism.

Money can buy happiness. The point is that you are told otherwise to decrease the volume of the drums of class war.

helot
5th November 2013, 14:00
and it's pretty obvious that the poor die earlier and live with worse health.

As for happiness... i don't know the meaning of the word.

Trap Queen Voxxy
9th November 2013, 02:33
and it's pretty obvious that the poor die earlier and live with worse health.

As for happiness... i don't know the meaning of the word.

Apparently suffering and struggling enriches the soul or something, idk.

But yeah, we live under a bourgeois dictatorship, this seems kind of business as usual.

Sea
9th November 2013, 03:46
We're brought up to think that money buys happiness, and it buys happiness indeed. The rich get the money, the rich get the happiness. The rest of us labor and do not to get to enjoy the fruits of out toil. "Money can't by happiness" is just a nice way to say "You can't have money, so get your happiness elsewhere." It is a vague platitude that states that people should be content in poverty.

If we all had enough money to get by under capitalism, nobody would even bother saying that money can't buy happiness. This fact alone should make you suspicious.

None of these things should surprise you.

edit: That said, that assignment does seem to be (or at least could be) written from a right-wing libertarian perspective. At least it has viagra jokes, which is edgier than any of the English classes I've taken.

Loony Le Fist
11th November 2013, 10:01
There is some truth to this assigned text if only because of social conditioning. We are all conditioned into commodity fetishism from a very young age. It is a pretty basic social rule, like not talking with your mouth full in certain cultures. Logically it is also of great benefit to an individual to have lots of capital in a system based on accumulation of capital.

EDIT: Let me add that I'm not saying that there aren't tangible benefits to having wealth in the currently structured system. I'm just saying that it is a product of social conditioning that there is such importance placed on capital accumulation. So that is what leads to wealth being so important and having the tangible benefits it has.

ToldYouSo
11th November 2013, 13:41
In history class last year we were doing a topic on the cold war and the teacher straight up said that Communism was a terrible idea and convinced the rest of the class to become right-wing. Except me of course:laugh:

Orange Juche
18th November 2013, 07:01
In history class last year we were doing a topic on the cold war and the teacher straight up said that Communism was a terrible idea and convinced the rest of the class to become right-wing. Except me of course:laugh:

When I was in high school I remember reading Orwell's "Animal Farm" in history class and being told pretty much verbatim "this is an example of why communism doesn't work".

Sea
20th November 2013, 00:47
In history class last year we were doing a topic on the cold war and the teacher straight up said that Communism was a terrible idea and convinced the rest of the class to become right-wing. Except me of course:laugh:How did you respond? To the teacher, that is.

RedWaves
20th November 2013, 02:41
I had a black teacher in high school, who was incredibly anti-capitalist and all the kids would argue with her that she was Un-American. :laugh:
She would tell us about the Contras unit Reagan created, the Taliban's origins under Reagan, how the Cuban Revolution really went down, all the other stuff about imperialistic siege using the U.S. military.

An awesome teacher that did her research, that never backed down to tell you how fucked up America's beliefs were. She passed away right before I dropped out.

Ocean Seal
20th November 2013, 04:03
Cut the bullshit conservatism.

Money can buy happiness. The point is that you are told otherwise to decrease the volume of the drums of class war.
No it can't, but it can buy an education, it can buy healthcare for your family, steak, a nice vacation, etc. Which I honestly think most people without a lot of money value a hell of a lot more than "happiness". Resume the drums of class war comrade Rafiq.

Alonso Quijano
21st November 2013, 15:38
We live in a society run by capitalists, what did you expect other than capitalism in school?

But the problem isn't the stuff that's taught, it's the stuff that isn't taught.
When they teach about Communism they teach about Stalin, not about Rosa Luxemburg. They don't teach about the Weimar republic slaughtering workers, they don't about the US arming Pinochet as well, do they?

EverythingNothing
21st November 2013, 15:42
Yes,I am fully aware of this miseducation.
Education has been,and is the most powerful tool in the ruling elite's hand.
I just posted this as a little insight..

EverythingNothing
21st November 2013, 15:49
We live in a society run by capitalists, what did you expect other than capitalism in school?

I would also like to add a quote here by Mark Twain: " Don't let schooling interfere with your education "

Czy
21st November 2013, 16:24
School is probably the most powerful vehicle the bourgeoisie can use in hypnotizing future workers. Kids' minds are tabula rasa - a blank state. Their mind is highly impressionable; the mind will lap up what it is fed.

Bukharin eloquently sums up the function of schooling in bourgeois society: "In bourgeois society the school has three principal tasks to fulfil. First, it inspires the coming generation of workers with devotion and respect for the capitalist régime. Secondly, it creates from the young of the ruling classes 'cultured' controllers of the working population. Thirdly, it assists capitalist production in the application of sciences to technique, thus increasing capitalist profits."

RedWaves
23rd November 2013, 02:45
It's indoctrination.


When they teach Communism they don't even mention Lenin. When they teach the Cuban revolution they don't even mention Che, and when they do, he's painted out to be this enslaving dictator that loves killing people.

They probably even teach that Raygun ended the Cold War.


Capitalism is a dirty business. I think it's more obvious to see past the bullshit about how awesome it is when you grow up poor. But sadly the poor are brainwashed to hate other poor people cause this guy and that guy have got food stamps and I don't.
When I grew up it used to blow my mind how I was surrounded by nothing but poor and they always spun excuses for it, and believed in this "you can pick yourself up by your own bootstraps" bullshit. I grew up with that mentality drilled in my skull and then when you get old enough and start to think for yourself you see it's nothing but bullshit.


The problem is capitalism can't survive without exploitation. It's the absolute greediest form of a market ever in existence, and the reason it has never died, and why people don't "wake up" is because they have got it drilled in their skulls so good with AMERICA NUMBAH #1!!!!!!!!!!! they can't see that this is the reason their lives are so screwed up, and in that case they can't do nothing about it when they can't see the problem.

Look at the guys that America celebrates. They don't demonize their rich greedy assholes that get tax breaks, they are celebrated. They loved Steve Jobs, they love Bill Gates, I could go on and on. The Rockefellers are looked at like they are some kind of great people for all the blood they've shed. That's part of the problem totally.

I am telling you guys, all those years of Cold War propaganda worked. If America does anything good it is the brainwashing of their citizens with loads and loads of propaganda from a black and white view point with absolutely no shades of grey. You need bad guys and you need good guys. Remember John Wayne is the good guy.

MarxSchmarx
23rd November 2013, 05:06
Surveys like these remind me of the bible. They can be used to prove just about anything.

Consider this study done which constrasted how "happy" the people of Nigeria, who by most accounts have it worse than the people of Britain, are compared to, well, Brits:

http://www.theguardian.com/global/2011/jan/04/nigerians-top-optimism-poll

Even the most "official" survey found "developing" countires like Panama, Israel and yeah, Venezual, scored alongside places like Norway beating out ostensibly "wealthier" rivals like the UK and Qatar; even the tiny nation of Trinidad and Tobago beat out mighty Japan by over 10 places on this scale (although to be sure the very top were Nordic countries, Canada, and small western European countries) while with all its wealth China lagged behind places like Zambia and Kosovo.

http://unsdsn.org/files/2013/09/WorldHappinessReport2013_online.pdf

http://news.discovery.com/earth/the-happiest-countries-in-the-world-130910.htm

with the "developed" country of Portugal, whose citizens enjoy visa-free travel to most countries in the world, right behind Honduras and just ahead of Ghana.

Flying Purple People Eater
23rd November 2013, 07:41
No it can't, but it can buy an education, it can buy healthcare for your family, steak, a nice vacation, etc. Which I honestly think most people without a lot of money value a hell of a lot more than "happiness". Resume the drums of class war comrade Rafiq.

EDIT: Didn't read all of your post. I'd say that most of those things that you mention can contribute immensely to the notion of happiness.

Considering how surveys show that the majority of Americans would murder another person for 100'000$, reality disagrees with you.


The whole 'money can't buy happiness' is conservative bullshit draped in hippy-ism. Yes it could buy happiness for a bread-brink working-classman in 1500s France, where the slightest fluctuation in the price of bread would cause thousands of deaths, and where the rich resided in palaces and fucking had strawberry baths, yes it could buy happiness in the Arabian coast where millions work as slaves for the oil overlords who can get away with fucking slavery in the United States because they're rich royal pig dogs. Money can be incredibly powerful within capitalism, and lead someone to having a much better life.

To be honest the whole 'money can't buy you happiness gig' is a hop, skip and a jump away from 'the starving are CONTENT as slave serfs!'. Reminds me of all the liberal freaks applauding Bhutan as the 'happiest place in the world' while ignoring the fact that it's a top-down monarchic dictatorship and has been committing mass genocide against ethnic minorities, something which has gotten so bad that most have escaped to India, Nepal and Tibet for help.

Flying Purple People Eater
23rd November 2013, 07:54
School is probably the most powerful vehicle the bourgeoisie can use in hypnotizing future workers. Kids' minds are tabula rasa - a blank state. Their mind is highly impressionable; the mind will lap up what it is fed.

Bukharin eloquently sums up the function of schooling in bourgeois society: "In bourgeois society the school has three principal tasks to fulfil. First, it inspires the coming generation of workers with devotion and respect for the capitalist régime. Secondly, it creates from the young of the ruling classes 'cultured' controllers of the working population. Thirdly, it assists capitalist production in the application of sciences to technique, thus increasing capitalist profits."

It's nowhere near as bad as the outright hypnotism used in imperial Japan pre-WW2. Kids were fed a biased, one-sided version of history that always made Japanese people out as some kind of super-race, and were psychologically and physically tortured. Pecking orders were encouraged and ethnic groups, such as Chinese, European and South-East Asian people (especially Chinese people) were constantly dehumanised - In the book "The rape of Nanking", a recorded classroom occurrence was where a crying child was being forced to stab an animal to death, with an instructor screaming at him "MAN UP! YOU'LL BE DOING THIS TO THOUSANDS OF CHINKS COME THE WAR!". Imperial Japanese school was a factory for killing machines.

Mind you, America's schooling system isn't that far off. At least over here kids aren't forced to fucking capitulate to the country every morning with a 'national pledge' - not even the nationalists here are that insane. Also, teachers don't get as much leeway here for injecting their opinion into supposedly unbiased history lessons as they supposedly do in America (I mean holy shit, teachers saying shit like "Native American history is unimportant"? If you said that about indigenous history here, you'd be kicked out of the god-damned education sector and get a big black splotch next to your name).

argeiphontes
23rd November 2013, 08:07
At least over here kids aren't forced to fucking capitulate to the country every morning with a 'national pledge'

I pledge allegiance to the flag,
and to the republic for which it stands,
one nation, under god,
with liberty and justice for all.


I still remember it. I had to say it every day as a kid, but not in high school IIRC. Oh, yeah, make sure to put your hand over your heart, like you're pledging your life.

Flying Purple People Eater
23rd November 2013, 08:10
I pledge allegiance to the flag,
and to the republic for which it stands,
one nation, under god,
with liberty and justice for all.


I still remember it. I had to say it every day as a kid, but not in high school IIRC. Oh, yeah, make sure to put your hand over your heart, like you're pledging your life.

Did you know that they used the Nazi salute up until WW2? Kind of gives you a major whiff of it's jingoistic foundations.

http://www.mentalfloss.com/sites/default/legacy/blogs/wp-content/uploads/2012/01/bellamy-salute.jpg

Disgusting mind-control.

When my mother was a kid, they had all sorts of kid's songs that were ridiculously pro-British Union, like "Hang the tack who betrays the Union Jack" at age six. They really worked (work?) hard to nail in the chains.