Reactionaries have infiltrated the forums.

[Flying Purple People Eater]

http://www.revleft.com/vb/group.php?groupid=1184

I demand these monsters be brought to justice.

[Hermes]

To be honest I'm surprised one hasn't been started already.

Unless it was, and got deleted or something.

[Sinister Intents]

Seems very interesting :)

[rylasasin]

How are they reactionaries?

... unless that's sarcasm and I'm having a derp moment.

[Red_Banner]

http://meanderingvoice.files.wordpress.com/2012/11/facepalm_picard_1-500x328.jpg

[Sperm-Doll Setsuna]

How are they reactionaries?

... unless that's sarcasm and I'm having a derp moment.

Cry more about the great injustices of the fursecution.

[Flying Purple People Eater]

I think we should commence with the furlags for these filthy individuals.

[d3crypt]

I don't see whats so bad about it? Am i missing something? :confused:

[Brandon's Impotent Rage]

.....You guys aren't serious, are you?

[Comrade Samuel]

What am I doing with my life?

[Remus Bleys]

.....You guys aren't serious, are you?

Why wouldn't we be?

[Flying Purple People Eater]

.....You guys aren't serious, are you?

Quite serious.

Furries are a danger to local wildlife in that they may mistake common livestock and pets for their sexual fetish partners. That and they claim that they are 'oppressed' like afro-americans in the US.

[Brandon's Impotent Rage]

I just went and joined.

:reda:ANARCHY!!!:thumbup:

[Brandon's Impotent Rage]

Quite serious.

Furries are a danger to local wildlife in that they may mistake common livestock and pets for their sexual fetish partners. Imho they should be sent to high-security prisons.

.....You sure you're not mistaking them for zoophiles?

[Flying Purple People Eater]

.....You sure you're not mistaking them for zoophiles?

No, I think they mistake animals for their sexual fetish partners and become zoophiles.

They are fascists and must be opposed.


I just went and joined.

:reda:ANARCHY!!!:thumbup:

We need an anti-furry cheka right about now.

[Brandon's Impotent Rage]

We need an anti-furry cheka right about now.

NEVER!!!!

Death to the social imperailist HYOOMANS!!! LONG LIVE ThE ANTHROMORPHIC LIBERATION MOVEMENT!!!!!

[Remus Bleys]

NEVER!!!!

Death to the social imperailist HYOOMANS!!! LONG LIVE ThE ANTHROMORPHIC LIBERATION MOVEMENT!!!!!

You are not helping your case.

[Brandon's Impotent Rage]

Oh for goodness sake...

It's just a hobby...or at worst a sort of offbeat fetish. Let them have their fun. Furries are NOT the same thing as zoophiles.

[Sperm-Doll Setsuna]

No, I think they mistake animals for their sexual fetish partners and become zoophiles.

They are fascists and must be opposed.



We need an anti-furry cheka right about now.

While I wouldn't call them fascists and they are often very anti-zoo (a disagreeable fact), they are infact something much more sinister; a group of people brought up on Disney anthropomorphism who have eventually lost grip of reality and become mentally deranged to the point where they seriously believe they are in contact with an anthropomorphic 'spirit animal', and then they start dabbling in ancient nature-oriented pagan traditions and misinterpret these and make them some hodge-podge mumbo-jumbo of their own-- they are not well, and need help, to fight their severe delusions, just like the otherkin folk who think they are characters from television series.

[Remus Bleys]

Everyone in it is someone I have already written off as reactionary.

[Brandon's Impotent Rage]

While I wouldn't call them fascists and they are often very anti-zoo (a disagreeable fact), they are infact something much more sinister; a group of people brought up on Disney anthropomorphism who have eventually lost grip of reality and become mentally deranged to the point where they seriously believe they are in contact with an anthropomorphic 'spirit animal', and then they start dabbling in ancient nature-oriented pagan traditions and misinterpret these and make them some hodge-podge mumbo-jumbo of their own-- they are not well, and need help, to fight their severe delusions, just like the otherkin folk who think they are characters from television series.

You are mistaking them as 'therians'. Not the same thing.

And as for the whole fursona thing.....that's just something a furry roleplays as, the same way someone roleplays as a character in Dn'D or as fan character at a Star Trek convention.

[Flying Purple People Eater]

While I wouldn't call them fascists and they are often very anti-zoo (a disagreeable fact), they are infact something much more sinister; a group of people brought up on Disney anthropomorphism who have eventually lost grip of reality and become mentally deranged to the point where they seriously believe they are in contact with an anthropomorphic 'spirit animal', and then they start dabbling in ancient nature-oriented pagan traditions and misinterpret these and make them some hodge-podge mumbo-jumbo of their own-- they are not well, and need help, to fight their severe delusions, just like the otherkin folk who think they are characters from television series.

And they dress up as animals and think they are part animal, and have sex in animal suits.

That's not even a matter of identity. That's fucking batshit insane.

[Hermes]

seriously though who the fuck cares

i could've sworn i've seen some of the same posters in here arguing against it, arguing elsewhere that it's no ones business what goes on in the bedroom (consent considered, etc)

[Sperm-Doll Setsuna]

seriously though who the fuck cares

i could've sworn i've seen some of the same posters in here arguing against it, arguing elsewhere that it's no ones business what goes on in the bedroom (consent considered, etc)

If it was just a question of that, then yes, sure, whatever they want to do; but they are more than that, they are a 'subculture', a reprehensible one that must be destroyed. They also have the most unbearable persecution complex imaginable. They infest all porn sites with their awful disney character stuff. Where's the fucking squids? Wolves and Foxes, a horse or two, a lion; only a few times have I seen a furry that was not some lame mammal. Fuck mammals.

[Hermes]

If it was just a question of that, then yes, sure, whatever they want to do; but they are more than that, they are a 'subculture', a reprehensible one that must be destroyed. They also have the most unbearable persecution complex imaginable. They infest all porn sites with their awful disney character stuff. Where's the fucking squids? Wolves and Foxes, a horse or two, a lion; only a few times have I seen a furry that was not some lame mammal. Fuck mammals.

how is bdsm not also a subculture? you can pretty easily find bdsm on most porn sites as well

re: the persecution complex, i've only ever seen it a couple of times, and not dominating the conversation etc. i don't spend the majority of my time conversing with furries though, iunno why your experience seems to be predominately towards that

i'm pretty sure you can find porn of whatever you want, though i'm hesitant to go and look for it in order to prove my point

[Yuppie Grinder]

i hope you guys aren't joking i was genuinely bothered when i saw that group was a thing
we need less of that sort on this website

[sixdollarchampagne]

http://www.revleft.com/vb/group.php?groupid=1184

I demand these monsters be brought to justice.

Quite right, Yosif Vissarionovich!

Call State Prosecutor Vyshinsky (active during the Great Purge trials of the 1930's) to indict and condemn the reactionary fur balls nyemyédlyeno (immediately)! :)

[A Revolutionary Tool]

People that want to bang each other in animal suits? This is what people are upset about?

[Yuppie Grinder]

seriously though who the fuck cares

i could've sworn i've seen some of the same posters in here arguing against it, arguing elsewhere that it's no ones business what goes on in the bedroom (consent considered, etc)

i don't see things that simply and don't use that argument
you might think it's hypocritical of me to be for the freedom of gays and opposed to some fetish cultures like bdsm and furries
but i think hedonism isn't a rebellion against bourgeois culture, it's the ultimate culmination of it
takayuki already explained nicely what's wrong with furries

[Hermes]

i don't see things that simply and don't use that argument
you might think it's hypocritical of me to be for the freedom of gays and opposed to some fetish cultures like bdsm and furries
but i think hedonism isn't a rebellion against bourgeois culture, it's the ultimate culmination of it
takayuki already explained nicely what's wrong with furries

you'll have to point it out to me, because i haven't seen any convincing arguments that i haven't already attempted to address

i don't really see how fetishes or their cultures (in general not in specific) constitute hedonism. certain individuals will certainly include that in their hedonism but it is not the be all end all

--

forgot that earlier post, most of its points are addressed by brandon's impotent rage on this page, though

[Decolonize The Left]

I don't care for non-human animal love in my personal intimacy, but zoos are fucked up.

[Remus Bleys]

What's wrong with bdsm?

[sixdollarchampagne]

i don't see things that simply and don't use that argument – you might think it's hypocritical of me to be for the freedom of gays and opposed to some fetish cultures like bdsm and furies, but i think hedonism isn't a rebellion against bourgeois culture, it's the ultimate culmination of it – takayuki already explained nicely what's wrong with furries

Surely hedonism is exclusively the business of the participating hedonists, and no one else's? Why would socialism be interested in intervening in relationships between consenting adults?

[Flying Purple People Eater]

People that want to bang each other in animal suits? This is what people are upset about?

The problem isn't that. The problem is that they often substitute partners for actual animals.

And they think that they are actually animals.

[Hermes]

The problem isn't that. The problem is that they often substitute partners for actual animals.

And they think that they are actually animals.

again i don't really think you have any idea what you're talking about

zoophiles are completely different

'otherkin' are completely different

[A Revolutionary Tool]

The problem isn't that. The problem is that they often substitute partners for actual animals.

And they think that they are actually animals.

Do they really? I've never cared to look into furries but I'm not going to lie, it would be interesting to at least try and have sex wearing a big costume(animal or not). I think I'd sweat way too much though so fuck that.

[Sperm-Doll Setsuna]

And they think that they are actually animals.

Seriously. While I have met a few that were more detached and were not into the whole thing so much as they just enjoyed the (in my taste very boring) pornography, most of them genuinely believe, like one of those new-age nutter religions, that they are animal spirits. You'll have them pleading that they are an oppressed sexual minority, that they are like being transgender, and that their animal spirits ought to be respected, "oppressed like by racism", and so on. Preposterous.

[rylasasin]

ITT: Strawmen everywhere.

Seriously revleft, I am disappoint. This is the sort of behavior I'd expect to see from right wingers and christian fundamentalists, not leftists.


They also have the most unbearable persecution complex imaginable.

You know, making preemptive threads like this one at the mere existence of a group, let alone call it "reactionary" without any material argument and resorting to little more than "lol it's a weird sexual fetish" and making up idiotic strawmen based on what a few furries do to prove your "point" sort of lends credence to theirs.

[Os Cangaceiros]

i don't see things that simply and don't use that argument
you might think it's hypocritical of me to be for the freedom of gays and opposed to some fetish cultures like bdsm and furries
but i think hedonism isn't a rebellion against bourgeois culture, it's the ultimate culmination of it
takayuki already explained nicely what's wrong with furries

Well there's only two options re: sexuality, I think: either what happens in your private sex life with a consenting partner(s) is other people's business, or it isn't. Saying that it isn't full-stop and just leave the subject at that is somewhat imperfect, as it may discourage self-reflection about why we like the things we like, what it may mean about us etc, but the other option is just completely intolerable and wrong IMO

[Flying Purple People Eater]

I'm genuinely surprised that a joke thread has received such a roaring reaction. :laugh:

[human strike]

The only thing that bothers me is that some people are engaged in this stuff for reasons other than sexual fetish!

[rylasasin]

I'm genuinely surprised that a joke thread has received such a roaring reaction. :laugh:

... If this is a joke thread shouldn't it be in Chit-Chat?

[LiamChe]

This is just sick and I am shocked to see such a reaction. Just replace the "Furrie" with "Gay" and all of a sudden things don't seem so funny.

[Remus Bleys]

This is just sick and I am shocked to see such a reaction. Just replace the "Furrie" with "Gay" and all of a sudden things don't seem so funny.
Thats the only reason I think Furries are annoying.
I don't give a fuck what you do, but this whole "FURRIES ARE OPPRESSED LIKE HOMOSEXUALS, BLACKS, IMMIGRANTS, TRANS PEOPLE, ETC" is a bunch of horseshit.

[Flying Purple People Eater]

This is just sick and I am shocked to see such a reaction. Just replace the "Furrie" with "Gay" and all of a sudden things don't seem so funny.

This is exactly why the mockery holds true in the first place.


Furries are not an oppressed group like homosexuals or people of colour in the US, and the fact that some people claim that they do is downright ridiculous.

[Comrade Jacob]

I find it hard to care about actually.

[Queen Mab]

This is exactly why the mockery holds true in the first place.


Furries are not an oppressed group like homosexuals or people of colour in the US, and the fact that some people claim that they do is downright ridiculous.

Really? Christ almighty.

Casually mention to your boss at work that you find drawn pictures of animals sexually attractive and see their reaction. I bet they'll be fucking thrilled.

[#FF0000]

Really? Christ almighty.

Casually mention to your boss at work that you find drawn pictures of animals sexually attractive and see their reaction. I bet they'll be fucking thrilled.

casually mention any weirdo nerd hobby one might have and you're gonna get a look. doesn't mean renfaire dorks, LARPers, bronies, and anime kids are "oppressed".

[Ethics Gradient, Traitor For All Ages]

First they came for the foxes, but I did nothing because I wasn't a normal fox, I was a celestial moon fox with two tails that can also transform into a dragon

[Rafiq]

The more I see things like this, the less inclined I am to complain about capital swallowing the "free exchange of ideas", the internet. What madness, all of it. The madness of bourgeois ideology and it's spiral towards rock bottom pervades anyway, at least direct commodification of the internet brings them closer to reality.

[L.A.P.]

What's wrong with bdsm?

it's not an alternative form of sexual enjoyment, it's an inherently self-destructive practice that's symptomatic of some psychosocial deadlock; namely not having control over one's life in most cases

[ÑóẊîöʼn]

Furries aren't oppressed and cries of fursecution are plainly ridiculous, but at the same time I find the degree to which anti-furry types get themselves worked up is one that generate questions of its own.


The more I see things like this, the less inclined I am to complain about capital swallowing the "free exchange of ideas", the internet. What madness, all of it. The madness of bourgeois ideology and it's spiral towards rock bottom pervades anyway, at least direct commodification of the internet brings them closer to reality.

What the fuck do furries have to do with the commodification of the internet?

[Remus Bleys]

it's not an alternative form of sexual enjoyment, it's an inherently self-destructive practice that's symptomatic of some psychosocial deadlock; namely not having control over one's life in most cases

So?

[Trap Queen Voxxy]

While I wouldn't call them fascists and they are often very anti-zoo (a disagreeable fact), they are infact something much more sinister; a group of people brought up on Disney anthropomorphism who have eventually lost grip of reality and become mentally deranged to the point where they seriously believe they are in contact with an anthropomorphic 'spirit animal', and then they start dabbling in ancient nature-oriented pagan traditions and misinterpret these and make them some hodge-podge mumbo-jumbo of their own-- they are not well, and need help, to fight their severe delusions, just like the otherkin folk who think they are characters from television series.

http://24.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m4qs0eySBj1rwnpq0o1_500.png

Me thinks you doth protest to much, lol, something you want to tell us? Hmmm?

[Goblin]

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[Creative Destruction]

i try to be open-minded, but... furries are just so fucking creepy.

[Quail]

Well, furries are a little weird imo but whatever floats your boat I guess. Revleft seems like an odd place to try and meet fellow furries though.

[DasFapital]

Khrushchev and Xiaoping were both furries

[Landsharks eat metal]

I'm not any of these, but people in this thread really need to learn the difference between furries, otherkin/therians, and zoophiles. (And that interest in the subculture is not always sexual.) This is a pretty shit thread.

[Trap Queen Voxxy]

Khrushchev and Xiaoping were both furries

As was Stalin....

http://thedaoofdragonball.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/08/king-furry.gif

[Luc]

wheres that pic of stalin in a rabbit suit?

[Trap Queen Voxxy]

wheres that pic of stalin in a rabbit suit?

http://d24w6bsrhbeh9d.cloudfront.net/photo/1933672_700b.jpg

[Taters]

that is the cutest thing ever

[The Garbage Disposal Unit]

http://d24w6bsrhbeh9d.cloudfront.net/photo/1933672_700b.jpg

Holy shit! Is this real? What's the context? This rules.

[ÑóẊîöʼn]

What I find most disturbing about that picture is not that Stalin is wearing a bunny costume, but that somebody felt it necessary to add the sign.

[Sharia Lawn]

In this thread: members of a "revolutionary" "leftist" forum volunteering as the bourgeoisie's sexuality/morality police.

[#FF0000]

In this thread: members of a "revolutionary" "leftist" forum volunteering as the bourgeoisie's sexuality/morality police.

lmao

[#FF0000]

Serious question do furries satisfy the criteria for a "nation" as per comrade stalin's Marxism and the National Question?

[Sperm-Doll Setsuna]

Me thinks you doth protest to much, lol, something you want to tell us? Hmmm?

I hate you, and my feelings for you are not utterable in polite company. Please fuck off, idiot conspiracy nut.

As an aside, that while I am not a nasty furry, I have indeed roleplayed in the past with furries and fraternised with the extreme ostracised outer limits of furry community, the perverts the furry community like to forget and hide, is that what you are referring to?

[#FF0000]

can we have a sticky thread in non-pol or something where takayuki tells people what he thinks of them please

[Per Levy]

only the forkliftists can save us now.

[Os Cangaceiros]

the perverts the furry community like to forget and hide

now there's something to haunt your darkest nightmares

[Sharia Lawn]

lmaoCare to share with the rest of us the comedic value that you have unearthed from the post that which you quoted?


Serious question do furries satisfy the criteria for a "nation" as per comrade stalin's Marxism and the National Question?In fact, they don't.

[Sharia Lawn]

If I hadn't clicked on the link in the original post of the thread I would have thought that I dropped into an RCP-held public fora on the topic of homosexuality in the 80's.

[#FF0000]

people don't side-eye people with strange hobbies because of bourgeois morality they side-eye them because they have strange hobbies you dope.


If I hadn't read the title of the thread I would have thought that I dropped into an RCP-held public fora on the topic of homosexuality in the 80's.


this isn't as funny the second time.

[Sharia Lawn]

people don't side-eye people with strange hobbies because of bourgeois morality they side-eye them because they have strange hobbies you dope.Man, this is underwhelming.

Poster with 10,000+ posts doesn't see that the conventional spectrum of "strangeness" regarding hobbies (or anything else) or the way in which the various characteristics of certain fringe (or non-mainstream) parts of modern civil society are evaluated, is a reflection of bourgeois ideology and consciousness.

Next you'll be informing us of the reactionary nature of BDSM, or in fact any form of sexual role-playing at all.




this isn't as funny the second time.Ninjaquoted.

[Flying Purple People Eater]

Are you idiots still trying to argue that people who practice a very out-of-field sexual fetish are in some way oppressed? I tip my hat.


Serious question do furries satisfy the criteria for a "nation" as per comrade stalin's Marxism and the National Question?

National Libfuration movements galore. To join the movement against oppression, you must have sex in animal suits and think that you are an animal.

VIVA LA REVFURLUTION, COMRADES.

[#FF0000]

Poster with 10,000+ posts doesn't see that the conventional spectrum of "strangeness" regarding hobbies (or anything else) or the way in which the various characteristics of certain fringe (or non-mainstream) parts of modern civil society are evaluated, is a reflection of bourgeois ideology and consciousness.

People aren't going to see people dressing up in fursuits and drawing themselves as anthropomorphic great danes with swimmer's physiques as any less strange after the revolution you dope and the fact that you guys try to act like people thinking "huh that's a weird thing to do" is similar to what homosexuals and other persecuted groups face is actually disgusting.


Next you'll be informing us of the reactionary nature of BDSM, or in fact any form of sexual role-playing at all.

Yo except you missed the point that my issue isn't with furries or people with dumb weirdo dork hobbies (i am a person with dumb weirdo dork hobbies and interests) but with you fucking internet crybabies who think you're persecuted or oppressed in any way.

[Hermes]

reminder that i'm p. sure there have only been two people in this thread attempting to argue that furries are actually oppressed

[helot]

The puns in this thread are cringeworthy.

[#FF0000]

reminder that i'm p. sure there have only been two people in this thread attempting to argue that furries are actually oppressed

yeah and those are the two people who I've been replying to.

[Hermes]

yeah and those are the two people who I've been replying to.

should have clarified, was not saying that to you in specific; throughout the thread that accusation of oppression complex as spread across the entirety of everyone who identifies as a 'furry' has been leveled

[ÑóẊîöʼn]

If it was just a question of that, then yes, sure, whatever they want to do; but they are more than that, they are a 'subculture', a reprehensible one that must be destroyed.

Might I ask why? The persecution complex and shitty art aren't an inherent feature of the genre, so those can't be the reasons.


Where's the fucking squids?

Tentacle porn?


Wolves and Foxes, a horse or two, a lion; only a few times have I seen a furry that was not some lame mammal. Fuck mammals.

"Scalies" seem to be a thing in porn genres involving humanoid animals. Having handled reptiles however, I think I'd find the cold-bloodedness off-putting during an act of congress, like having it off with a moving corpse. Although I imagine that could be offset by the reptile being freshly back from sunning themselves on a hot rock.


Next you'll be informing us of the reactionary nature of BDSM

Nah, somebody already beat him to it:


it's not an alternative form of sexual enjoyment, it's an inherently self-destructive practice that's symptomatic of some psychosocial deadlock; namely not having control over one's life in most cases

Well, maybe not "BDSM is reactionary" so much as "BDSM is the product of some psychobabble bullshit I just made up", but either way it's condescending crap.

[Quail]

Man, this is underwhelming.

Poster with 10,000+ posts doesn't see that the conventional spectrum of "strangeness" regarding hobbies (or anything else) or the way in which the various characteristics of certain fringe (or non-mainstream) parts of modern civil society are evaluated, is a reflection of bourgeois ideology and consciousness.

Next you'll be informing us of the reactionary nature of BDSM, or in fact any form of sexual role-playing at all.

I kind of see what you're saying, but I really don't think people finding dressing up as animals strange is related to bourgeois morality. Apparently furries aren't always into it sexually, but for those that are... Well, I find their particular fetish strange but I'm not going to go out of my way to be nasty to them because I probably have fetishes other people think are strange, so it all balances out. But, people with a "dressing up as animals" fetish are in no way persecuted for it in the same way that groups facing structural oppression are and it insulting to people in marginalised groups to claim that furries experience societal oppression.


People aren't going to see people dressing up in fursuits and drawing themselves as anthropomorphic great danes with swimmer's physiques as any less strange after the revolution you dope and the fact that you guys try to act like people thinking "huh that's a weird thing to do" is similar to what homosexuals and other persecuted groups face is actually disgusting.

Yo except you missed the point that my issue isn't with furries or people with dumb weirdo dork hobbies (i am a person with dumb weirdo dork hobbies and interests) but with you fucking internet crybabies who think you're persecuted or oppressed in any way.
I agree with a less rude version of this post.

[Flying Purple People Eater]

Man, this is underwhelming.

Poster with 10,000+ posts doesn't see that the conventional spectrum of "strangeness" regarding hobbies (or anything else) or the way in which the various characteristics of certain fringe (or non-mainstream) parts of modern civil society are evaluated, is a reflection of bourgeois ideology and consciousness.

Next you'll be informing us of the reactionary nature of BDSM, or in fact any form of sexual role-playing at all.



Ninjaquoted.

http://newsimg.bbc.co.uk/media/images/46718000/jpg/_46718086_tail.226.jpg

"Hey look folks! I have a chunk of fluff that I've stuffed down my backside. I'm so oppressed!"

[helot]

http://newsimg.bbc.co.uk/media/images/46718000/jpg/_46718086_tail.226.jpg

"Hey look folks! I have a chunk of fluff that I've stuffed down my backside. I'm so oppressed!"


How fucking lazy of him. There are furries with intricate costumes that they've made but this guy? Nah, he'll just stuff a fake foxtail down his trousers.

[#FF0000]

full disclosure: i came in this thread hoping it was some good natured ribbing because i'm not comfortable picking on people for whatever dumb nerd shit they like (because, like i said, i love dumb nerd shit). my problem isn't with people who like dumb nerd shit. my problem is with people who think they are oppressed for liking dumb nerd shit.

[Trap Queen Voxxy]

I hate you, and my feelings for you are not utterable in polite company. Please fuck off, idiot conspiracy nut.

:lol:


As an aside, that while I am not a nasty furry, I have indeed roleplayed in the past with furries and fraternised with the extreme ostracised outer limits of furry community, the perverts the furry community like to forget and hide, is that what you are referring to?

http://fc04.deviantart.net/fs71/f/2012/230/5/b/it__s_okay_to_be_furry_by_howlingwolf79-d5blei0.jpg

It's ok, let it all out there dear, coming into your fursona must be challenging at first, but I'm sure with time you'll grow into it.<3 good luck! Baby you born this way, lolol.

[Brandon's Impotent Rage]

How fucking lazy of him. There are furries with intricate costumes that they've made but this guy? Nah, he'll just stuff a fake foxtail down his trousers.

Too true. I've seen some stunningly intricate fursuits. In fact, there are people who actually make fursuits for a living and sell them online.

[Bea Arthur]

full disclosure: i came in this thread hoping it was some good natured ribbing because i'm not comfortable picking on people for whatever dumb nerd shit they like (because, like i said, i love dumb nerd shit). my problem isn't with people who like dumb nerd shit. my problem is with people who think they are oppressed for liking dumb nerd shit.

"Good natured ribbing" stops being good natured when the people you're ribbing politely ask you to stop. Leave it to a closet sexist, with his good-ol-boy networking habits, to troll the forum looking for people to bully--sorry, I mean "rib," in his typically masculinist way.

[#FF0000]

"Good natured ribbing" stops being good natured when the people you're ribbing politely ask you to stop. Leave it to a closet sexist, with his good-ol-boy networking habits, to troll the forum looking for people to bully--sorry, I mean "rib," in his typically masculinist way.

this thread is bringing all of my favorite posters to one place i love this thread <3

edit: even tho this is a troll post targeting me i actually agree with it v('_')v

[Quail]

In #FF0000's defence, he's one of the few male posters who consistently backs up the female posters here about feminism.

[d3crypt]

This thread is sooooooooooooooooooooooooooo stupid. Who the fuck cares? :mad:
Damn fools.

[Flying Purple People Eater]

This thread is sooooooooooooooooooooooooooo stupid. Who the fuck cares? :mad:
Damn fools.

People who fear for the safety of their pets.

[d3crypt]

People who fear for the safety of their pets.

I honestly doubt that furry fans are zoophiles.

[Sharia Lawn]

People aren't going to see people dressing up in fursuits and drawing themselves as anthropomorphic great danes with swimmer's physiques as any less strange after the revolution you dope and the fact that you guys try to act like people thinking "huh that's a weird thing to do" is similar to what homosexuals and other persecuted groups face is actually disgusting.I don't give a god damn what people think is weird. But either you haven't read the contents of the thread in which you are posting in or you are intentionally misrepresenting said contents in service of your argument. Let's have a look. "Huh, that's a weird thing to do" - is this really the attitude being conveyed by the people in this thread? We shall see.

I demand these monsters be brought to justice.

I think we should commence with the furlags for these filthy individuals.

Quite serious.

Furries are a danger to local wildlife in that they may mistake common livestock and pets for their sexual fetish partners. That and they claim that they are 'oppressed' like afro-americans in the US.

No, I think they mistake animals for their sexual fetish partners and become zoophiles.

They are fascists and must be opposed.

We need an anti-furry cheka right about now.

...they are more than that, they are a 'subculture', a reprehensible one that must be destroyed.

Quite right, Yosif Vissarionovich!

Call State Prosecutor Vyshinsky (active during the Great Purge trials of the 1930's) to indict and condemn the reactionary fur balls nyemyédlyeno (immediately)! :)(Not sure if above was serious, although a couple people did thank it.)

The problem isn't that. The problem is that they often substitute partners for actual animals.

And they think that they are actually animals.No, #FF0000, the contents of this thread have expressed anything but the sentiment that "huh, that's a weird thing to do." There exists a range from slander (such as the equating to zoophilia) to calls for execution. Yeah, that's why I made the perfectly justifiable assertion that many posters in this thread are volunteering as the bourgeois sexuality/morality police.

Your unfounded accusation that I not only claimed that furries were oppressed but were oppressed to the same degree as homosexuals is utterly contemptible. I'm assuming you're referring to my tongue-in-cheek comparison of the hysteria toward furries displayed in this thread to the view that the RCP for a long time held toward homosexuals.

Apparently, in the mind of my friend here, the bigoted attitude an organization or little grouplet takes toward homosexuals is the same thing as the existing violence and vicious oppression of LGBT people. It's like saying that capitalists are oppressed because revleft hates them. It just shows how trivial the reality of the oppression of homosexuals is to this #FF0000. Either that, or they are purposefully distorting what I said.


Yo except you missed the point that my issue isn't with furries or people with dumb weirdo dork hobbies (i am a person with dumb weirdo dork hobbies and interests) but with you fucking internet crybabies who think you're persecuted or oppressed in any way.Your god damned right I missed it. I missed it because that wasn't your response to me at all. Your response to my inquiry about why you blessed me with the reply of "lmao" was thus:

people don't side-eye people with strange hobbies because of bourgeois morality they side-eye them because they have strange hobbies you dope.Nothing about oppression - why? Because I never made the claim that furries were oppressed - such a claim is both absurd and insulting to groups that are actually oppressed categorically and suffer its realities daily. But for you that is neither here nor there, because your aim isn't to respond to me in a respectable and sincere manner, but to distort and misrepresent it because you've backed yourself into a corner.



yeah and those are the two people who I've been replying to.You're a liar. I challenge you to reproduce any instance in which I claimed that furries were an oppressed social category. I issue this challenge because nowhere did I make such a ridiculous statement.

First you attack me for defending "strange hobbies," then you back-peddle and say that you were only arguing that furries weren't oppressed when I never said they were, then you proceed to say that I claimed they were oppressed.

An exercise in dishonesty.

[Sharia Lawn]

Btw I'm not a furrie. I don't really have much of a sexuality at all. Perhaps that's why this is so absurd to me.

[Sharia Lawn]

I kind of see what you're saying, but I really don't think people finding dressing up as animals strange is related to bourgeois morality. Apparently furries aren't always into it sexually, but for those that are... Well, I find their particular fetish strange but I'm not going to go out of my way to be nasty to them because I probably have fetishes other people think are strange, so it all balances out.It is related to bourgeois morality I think in the sense that subcultures spring up around sexual activities that aren't generally accepted by the social, cultural, and ideological conventions of bourgeois society (BDSM conventions, "looner" get-togethers, food fetishists, etc.).


But, people with a "dressing up as animals" fetish are in no way persecuted for it in the same way that groups facing structural oppression are and it insulting to people in marginalised groups to claim that furries experience societal oppression.


I'm in full agreement with this. I can't find the source of why anyone got the impression that I feel otherwise.

[#FF0000]

Btw I'm not a furrie. I don't really have much of a sexuality at all. Perhaps that's why this is so absurd to me.

might be absurd to you because i completely misunderstood you. my b

[The Garbage Disposal Unit]

I think it's a lousy counter-materialist conclusion that people's perception of furries isn't a reflection of bourgeois moral hegemony. Is there some "natural" aversion that furries, due to some quirk or defect, aren't effected by? I've heard that incest taboos are near universal - but furry taboos?
In any case, speaking of the future, of course people, furries included, will see furries differently "after the revolution". If the social relations that underwrite current perceptions of social behaviour will be fundamentally transformed - and one would hope this is particularly true of sex.
Sex, as it exists in capitalist society, is defined in relation to re/production (not just "making babies" but also in the daily reproduction of the worker physiologically, as a commodity in sex work, etc.). How this specifically relates to sexual fetishes, I confess, I'm not sure - but, goddamn it, you know it's a thing.

[Sea]

Oh my god, that taurinfox pic as the icon... :laugh:

(not that I recognize it or anything)

also FIJAGH
Apparently furries aren't always into it sexually, but for those that are...Don't be deceived by appearances.

[#FF0000]

I think it's a lousy counter-materialist conclusion that people's perception of furries isn't a reflection of bourgeois moral hegemony. Is there some "natural" aversion that furries, due to some quirk or defect, aren't effected by? I've heard that incest taboos are near universal - but furry taboos?

I mean if you're looking at it like a sexual thing then it's REALLY obvious. It's a thing that mixes anthropomorphic animals and sex, two things you wouldn't usually see juxtaposed together.

But since it isn't necessarily a sexual thing people might see it as some "damn that is a grown ass man dressing up like a cartoon" Neverlanditis shit.

And I don't think those things are gonna change after a revolution soz. There's still probably gonna be some shit that a small number of people are into and "get" that the majority aren't into and don't "get".

EDIT: and of course then there's people who grew up with the internet and hate on furries because they are, like every subculture that proliferated on the internet, insufferable v('_')v

[Sperm-Doll Setsuna]

I honestly doubt that furry fans are zoophiles.

Most of them are not, and there is a heavy bias against zoo amongst most of the furries who try to be socially acceptable, who are likewise the most unbearable sort, for they feel that anyone who is furry and into bestiality will "put a bad name to the community". This sort of placating the mainstream morality is of course something that affects all smaller groupings... This means that bestiality is a very touchy subject in most furry circles.

[Sea]

We need an anti-furry cheka right about now.No, we need a murry purry cheka!

[ÑóẊîöʼn]

EDIT: and of course then there's people who grew up with the internet and hate on furries because they are, like every subculture that proliferated on the internet, insufferable v('_')v

My impression is that hating on furries was popularised by Something Awful, actually.

[sixdollarchampagne]

it's not an alternative form of sexual enjoyment, it's an inherently self-destructive practice that's symptomatic of some psychosocial deadlock; namely not having control over one's life in most cases

In response, and with respect, smoking is also "an inherently self-destructive practice," probably far more so than anything the fur balls could do. Should it be banned? As long as no one else is coerced, the harm remains solely with the practitioner, of whatever unhealthy, self-destructive act or revolting habit one cares to name. You could say the same thing about riding a motorcycle very fast, I bet – that could be plenty self-destructive, also, but, at times, riding on a cloverleaf on a New England winter night, with someone interesting, holding on for dear life, it's one of the best things I can imagine.

I realize what I write is not earthshakingly original (that's putting it mildly, I know), but I think there ought to be a private realm, respected by the state and by other people, in which an individual is truly free to make his own bad choices. Mindless conformity is really not that attractive, IMHO.

[L.A.P.]

Oh my......

I never suggested that BDSM should be banned or regulated by the state, or any collective body for that matter. I just thought we were "critiquing" things, I agreed with Kim Jong Illmatic's sentiment that it's a "culmination of bourgeois culture" with the fetishization of dominance/submission and all. I don't think a "culmination of bourgeois culture" like BDSM should be banned anymore than I think annoying pop songs should be. I don't necessarily think each individual that participates in BDSM is 'psychologically traumatized' either.



I like how smoking gets brought up, maybe i should make more posts on chit chat that aren't on stonertalk. I habitually smoke weed because I'm bored and depressed, I would describe my dependence on it as "self-destructive" to a certain extent - but more like self-perpetuating - so what's with the outrage?





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[Ethics Gradient, Traitor For All Ages]

My impression is that hating on furries was popularised by Something Awful, actually.

I've never seen any kind of community that was friendly towards furries outside of those dominated by them already. Its just a thing that strikes a lot of people as weird, and it has primarily been a creation of the internet so I can't see how it could not have become a huge source of ridicule on the internet.

edit: I've always felt that a large part of having a healthy relationship with a sexual fetish is to accept how ridiculous it is. Furries always seem to take themselves so seriously, and it makes them a perfect target. If your fetish really was normal and could be taken seriously then it wouldn't really be much of a fetish would it? People with feet or poop fetishes get ridiculed as much as furries, they just generally do not construct an imaginary life around these acts that they expect the rest of the population to play along with.

[Comrade #138672]

Let them be? Why do you care? I was expecting a Nazi subgroup or something, but found... furries. OK. What's the big deal? I don't get it. I don't see how a few furries are a threat to the revolution.

[ÑóẊîöʼn]

Oh my......

I never suggested that BDSM should be banned or regulated by the state, or any collective body for that matter. I just thought we were "critiquing" things, I agreed with Kim Jong Illmatic's sentiment that it's a "culmination of bourgeois culture" with the fetishization of dominance/submission and all.

I thought it was a form of sexual roleplay, myself.


I don't think a "culmination of bourgeois culture" like BDSM should be banned anymore than I think annoying pop songs should be. I don't necessarily think each individual that participates in BDSM is 'psychologically traumatized' either.

Then exactly what purpose does "critique" serve, devoid of context? While those alumni of private boarding schools who graduated before the time when corporal punishment was banned might have a greater-than-even chance of developing a sexual fetish for being soundly thrashed, what about those BDSM fetishists who went to state schools in a time and place where corporal punishment was verboten? Clearly both groups have different reasons for having their fetish.

Moreover, I find it crude reductionism at its worst to try and apply a class/"Marxist" analysis to something as idiosyncratic as sexual fetishes. It's the kind of overweening arrogance typical of the kind of physicists who think they can explain the entire nature of existence with a single theory. Marxists should damn well know better.


I like how smoking gets brought up, maybe i should make more posts on chit chat that aren't on stonertalk. I habitually smoke weed because I'm bored and depressed, I would describe my dependence on it as "self-destructive" to a certain extent - but more like self-perpetuating - so what's with the outrage?

The outrage, at least on my part, comes from your characterisation of BDSM as "an inherently self-destructive practice" (clearly you've never heard of the words "safe, sane and consensual (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Safe,_sane_and_consensual)" or the RACK (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Risk_Aware_Consensual_Kink) acronym) that is "symptomatic of some psychosocial deadlock", which just sounds like meaningless psychobabble to me. All I know is that I find an attraction in bondage and dominant/submissive sexual roles, and that whatever my reasons for enjoying such activities, it's arrogant presumptuousness in the extreme to think that my reasons or the reasons of people I know are somehow universal.

Basically, baseless generalisation on your part.

[Yet_Another_Boring_Marxist]

Serious question do furries satisfy the criteria for a "nation" as per comrade stalin's Marxism and the National Question?

According to Stalin:


A nation is a historically constituted, stable community of people, formed on the basis of a common language, territory, economic life, and psychological make-up manifested in a common culture.

Stalin, Marxism and the National Question.


While it is possible to concieve of a furry community having one of these characteristics, it is important to note that all components are necessary for a nation to exist:


It goes without saying that a nation, like every historical phenomenon, is subject to the law of change, has its history, its beginning and end.

It must be emphasized that none of the above characteristics taken separately is sufficient to define a nation. More than that, it is sufficient for a single one of these characteristics to be lacking and the nation ceases to be a nation.

It is possible to conceive of people possessing a common "national character" who, nevertheless, cannot be said to constitute a single nation if they are economically disunited, inhabit different territories, speak different languages, and so forth. Such, for instance, are the Russian, Galician, American, Georgian and Caucasian Highland Jews, who, in our opinion, do not constitute a single nation.

It is possible to conceive of people with a common territory and economic life who nevertheless would not constitute a single nation because they have no common language and no common "national character." Such, for instance, are the Germans and Letts in the Baltic region.

Finally, the Norwegians and the Danes speak one language, but they do not constitute a single nation owing to the absence of the other characteristics.

It is only when all these characteristics are present together that we have a nation.

Stalin, Marxism and the National Question


Hence furies are not a nation.

[human strike]

Oh my......

I never suggested that BDSM should be banned or regulated by the state, or any collective body for that matter. I just thought we were "critiquing" things, I agreed with Kim Jong Illmatic's sentiment that it's a "culmination of bourgeois culture" with the fetishization of dominance/submission and all. I don't think a "culmination of bourgeois culture" like BDSM should be banned anymore than I think annoying pop songs should be. I don't necessarily think each individual that participates in BDSM is 'psychologically traumatized' either.



I like how smoking gets brought up, maybe i should make more posts on chit chat that aren't on stonertalk. I habitually smoke weed because I'm bored and depressed, I would describe my dependence on it as "self-destructive" to a certain extent - but more like self-perpetuating - so what's with the outrage?





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From experience I know that it is very hard to make any kind of accurate generalisations about BDSM and I would personally advise against it. Like, I really can't stress enough how describing BDSM simply as the "culmination of bourgeois culture" and the "fetishization of dominance/submission" is woefully inadequate. It also seems strange to describe something that many find therapeutic as "inherently self-destructive."

[Sam_b]

basements, etc

[Alexios]

According to Stalin:



While it is possible to concieve of a furry community having one of these characteristics, it is important to note that all components are necessary for a nation to exist:


Hence furies are not a nation.

lmao

[sixdollarchampagne]

Just to reassure cde Izvestia, when I wrote about calling State Prosecutor Vyshinsky (against the fur balls), that was just an attempt at humor; speaking seriously, I abominate Stalin, Vyshinsky, and the entire apparatus of terror against Soviet citizens that developed in the USSR. It is not accidental that my avatar is a picture of the young Trotsky (a mugshot from the tsarist era, I believe).

[Remus Bleys]

meanwhile, AJ has continued to elude the BA...

[Il Medico]

The only thing I've got against furries is when they start comparing themselves to transgendered people to defend their fetish. Honestly, that shit is just super insulting and anyone who thinks the two are at all comparable can go choke on a diseased cock.

[Flying Purple People Eater]

Did you know that one of Hitler's subordinates was a furry? If that doesn't tell you something about the subculture, I don't know what does.

[Marshal of the People]

What is with all the hate against furries? What have they ever done to you? There sexual orientation doesn't concern nor harm you. I am also really upset about the calls for the extermination of them which I find utterly disgusting. I am not a furry what is so bad about them their acts don't hurt you in any way at all. This thread reminds me of something you would find on a fundamentalist Christian or other right-wing website talking about LGBT individuals. I am probably going to cry now because you have all made me sad with your hatred against fellow humans who seem to like animals just a little more than usual!

[Rugged Collectivist]

Oh my god, that taurinfox pic as the icon... :laugh:


No, we need a murry purry cheka!

Thanks for making me google that shit. Now the NSA is going to think I'm a weirdo.

[Sinister Cultural Marxist]

Is it time for .... furges?

Sorry if someone already made that joke I was too fucking lazy to read through this whole thread.

[Marshal of the People]

Is it time for .... furges?

Sorry if someone already made that joke I was too fucking lazy to read through this whole thread.

I think wanting to exterminate them is a bit too harsh.

[sixdollarchampagne]

Did you know that one of Hitler's subordinates was a furry? If that doesn't tell you something about the subculture, I don't know what does.

That's an interesting argument (though, with respect, it sounds like a non sequitur). Years ago, when I was in college, our local SDS hosted some young people from the German SDS, and one of our guests remarked that the folksong movement in Germany "led straight into fascism." Fortunately, that was not the case in the US.

[Orange Juche]

Everyone in it is someone I have already written off as reactionary.

You keep a list?

[TheGodlessUtopian]

I think I read on Cracked that Caligula (or some other Roman emperor, or whatever) was a Furry. The more you know!

[Orange Juche]

(BDSM is) not an alternative form of sexual enjoyment, it's an inherently self-destructive practice that's symptomatic of some psychosocial deadlock; namely not having control over one's life in most cases

And you say this from an educated psychoanalytical perspective?

[Remus Bleys]

You keep a list?
Of course I do.

[Rusty Shackleford]

Ever read Theses on Furrybach?

[Fourth Internationalist]

Of course I do.

That'd be an interesting list to read. Will it be published one day?

[Remus Bleys]

That'd be an interesting list to read. Will it be published one day?
If yall are lucky

[Glitchcraft]

And they dress up as animals and think they are part animal, and have sex in animal suits.

That's not even a matter of identity. That's fucking batshit insane.

That's awesome! Sex with a batshit crazy person who thinks they are a bunny sounds like more fun than Nintendo. I was on the fence about them but now I am joining the group and mailing money to their defense fund.