We need more then words,We need action

[EverythingNothing]

This is my first post,This might be the wrong section to post..

Dear Comrades, (Communists,Anarchists,Anarchosyndicalists,Marxist s,Trotskyists and all fellow conscious humans)

As You and I know,We,the leftists have the answers to: Capitalism,The lurking enviromental disaster,and also many worldy problems!
The only problem is:How do we connect? How do we find each other? How do we work together?
I will now present a brainchild of mine,It's merely an idea,even less than that (But as we all know,the tallest trees were once small seeds)
The idea,in it's primitive form,as it is,bears the name of PROJECT HUB !
The broader expansion of the ide would be:
(PLEASE NOTE: that this is a simple thought,please.don't take it granted)

-A number of places established around the world,with the sole purpose of serving as a center of people coming together,working together (or even living together) to actually make a difference in the world (Revolution,self sufficiency,classless-ness,freedom,culture)
The general world describing the places would be: communes,colonies,villages
-Helping those in need of the area (Poor,Homeless and those repressed by capitalism)
-And eventually bringing about the revolution,changing the world,making it a better place)

This would be the idea,in a nutshell...Comrades,I hope you did get what I wanted to say..
If you somewhat tend to agree and like the idea: Let's develop it..We never know: We must organize,Act,and Unite

Let's be the the change that we want to happen

[RedMaterialist]

As Marx said, "The philosophers have only interpreted the world, in various ways; the point is to change it."

Marx also advised somewhere that communists should run for public office, not so much to win, but to get the communist viewpoint out in public debate. Go for it!

[boiler]

Yeah that's a great idea :)

[The Garbage Disposal Unit]

Erm. Not to be a total downer, but I think a lot of stuff like that exists.
Infoshops. Social centres. Squats. Communes. Punk houses.
They totally haven't made The Rev yet, though.

They're all totally worth doing, mind you. So, y'know, go to 'er, but no need to reinvent the wheel.

[Trap Queen Voxxy]

But like, I mean, that's cool and all but like material reality determines consciousness, not the reverse. We could use a bit more action tho, tru but what you're describing kind of seems like secessionist lifestylism. Now, with this being said, don't get offended or discouraged, you said you were new, but I'm just saying, that's how I feel. It's good to try to think outside of the bun tho, run with that.

[RedMaterialist]

Real political activity also determines consciousness.

[AmilcarCabral]

Every: Yeah you are right, because I was in an another internet forum of leftist marxist ideology and they said that the left of USA (specially the progressive liberal intellectual leftist like Amy Goodman, Chris Hedge, Michael Parenti, Glenn Greenwald, Jeremy Scahill, Tom Engelhart, Naomi Klein, Nomi Prins, Katrina Vanden Heuvel, etc.), (and even the marxist left) spends too much energies on theory, on books, speeches and videos. And not enough energies and not enough planning on real actions, on party-building and not on planning a formation of a big workers party. Trotsky clearly claimed that there is no way for people to get out of poverty without a political party, outside of a political party.

The whole marxist left of USA is too divided, like the marxist left of many other countries that is too divided, I know that's real hard to unite the left but we must think about a plan to unite the radical left in most countries of the world.

Another problem I see in the left of USA is that the only left in America which has visibility and media power is the progressive liberal, social-democratic left, bourgeoise-left, reformist-leftist intellectuals, the centrist-left media sources like The Russia Today News, Democracy Now, Free Speech TV, Link TV. But there are no TV shows, no TV news shows for the marxist revolutionary left. The marxist radical revolutionary real left that believes in armed struggles instead of elections in order to implement real socialism which is workers-dictatorship needs to find a way to create a TV channel in order to compete with Russia Today News and Democracy Now.

Because what will happen in America thanks to those 2 powerful bourgeoise-liberal TV news channels is that the only alternatives to The Democratic Party and The Republican Party, will be people like Ron Paul, Bernie Sanders, The Green Party, The Libertarian Party and other bourgeoise liberal reformists. Because for some reason I don't understand most americans after almost 20 years of internet, still rely on TV for politics and not in the internet at all for politics.

So again the marxist armed-struggles anti-elections left will have to compete with Russia Today, Democracy Now, commondreams.org, alternet.org, truthdig.com, coutnerpunch.org and the other bourgeoise liberal news sources so that most poor americans would resort to radical marxism as a tool out of poverty instead of resorting to bourgeoise-liberalism










This is my first post,This might be the wrong section to post..

Dear Comrades, (Communists,Anarchists,Anarchosyndicalists,Marxist s,Trotskyists and all fellow conscious humans)

As You and I know,We,the leftists have the answers to: Capitalism,The lurking enviromental disaster,and also many worldy problems!
The only problem is:How do we connect? How do we find each other? How do we work together?
I will now present a brainchild of mine,It's merely an idea,even less than that (But as we all know,the tallest trees were once small seeds)
The idea,in it's primitive form,as it is,bears the name of PROJECT HUB !
The broader expansion of the ide would be:
(PLEASE NOTE: that this is a simple thought,please.don't take it granted)

-A number of places established around the world,with the sole purpose of serving as a center of people coming together,working together (or even living together) to actually make a difference in the world (Revolution,self sufficiency,classless-ness,freedom,culture)
The general world describing the places would be: communes,colonies,villages
-Helping those in need of the area (Poor,Homeless and those repressed by capitalism)
-And eventually bringing about the revolution,changing the world,making it a better place)

This would be the idea,in a nutshell...Comrades,I hope you did get what I wanted to say..
If you somewhat tend to agree and like the idea: Let's develop it..We never know: We must organize,Act,and Unite

Let's be the the change that we want to happen

[EverythingNothing]

Amilcar : Excellently said! We need more people like you, We should talk and maybe work out an idea..

You guys got me wrong,I don't mean this as a new age spiritual stuff (staying apart from the world,communes connecting in spirituality) that bullsh#ting...
I mean,we must act, 'cuz in the years that will follow,we will enter harsh times of crisis and in times of those,people easily resort to nazism,fascism,stalinist bourgeoise communism..
We must elaborate a way...
(We shall learn from the faliures of past revolutions as we look towards the future)

[EverythingNothing]

Amilcar you are absolutely right.

And I don't meant this idea as some new age spiritual bullsh#ting..
We must really get our stuff together,the revolution will not come by itself,we must even be willing to sacrifice ourself for a better world (If life has any meaning,it is to create and leave a better world behind you)

[Thirsty Crow]

Yeah, action is needed. Working class action. But there seems to be an entrenched passivity. First, this needs to be accounted for.

And it would be best if people dropped this whole idea of the left initiating class action when there is none. It's a pipe dream, and reflecting a distorted view on a whole series of issues, the most important being the relationship between the organization and the class.

[EverythingNothing]

So,after all,Who wants to actually develop the idea,and think on it?
Who opposes it?

[boiler]

I think its a great idea and I totally support it, I would like to try develop this idea.

[EverythingNothing]

And also I would like to add this:
The sole purpose of this project would be to actually create a hotspot for the revolution,also to raise attention.
The main objective for us is to project our ideas on the broader society..
But we can only do something in the world if we organize,unite..
I really like this forum,and the members,and I'm happy that I did join,but as far as it goes,we won't realize anything just by posting in the forums..

[anarkista]

I admire the idea, similar communities and communes due exist, but i agree we do need a more prominent base to build from where people are able to see the presence of the left wing in today's society,
Solidarity.

[Alan OldStudent]

This is my first post,This might be the wrong section to post..

Welcome to the board, Comrade. I hope you benefit from being here.

Regards,

Alan OldStudent
The unexamined life is not worth living--Socrates

[EverythingNothing]

So I made this group,in which we can easily discuss,contemplate about this little idea
Click here: http://www.revleft.com/vb/group.php?groupid=1193

[Gia]

Welcome! :)

Also, I must say I agree pretty much entierly with your idea, I truly think a new, strong left must be organized as soon as possible if we want to make our voice heard out in the open and at the same time break all the nasty and idiotic prejudices that the right wing has fed the general population about the left, socialism etc..


we won't realize anything just by posting in the forums..

This Absolutely this. I was so glad when I found out that there is a true online leftist community I was so incredibly glad, and I consider this forum a great place to learn and get yourself educated on various, lots of topics concerning leftism, plus having the chance to get to know and discuss with fellow leftists, this is one of the biggest benefits, but I really think we should find a way to also make ourselves seen and heard outside the forum.