Who do you support???

[Y2A]

What communist guerrillas around the world(past or present) do you support???

Edit: Can any mod or admin please correct the title, sorry :( typo.

[Pete]

Consider it done.

I find the EZLN quite respectable.

[RedCeltic]

Do they have to be specificly "communist?"

I support ELZN...( the Zapatista movement)

And any group struggling for freedom under the yoke of imperialism.

EDIT: Damn Pete beat me to it... lol

I beat you to fixing the thread title though. ;)

[Bad Grrrl Agro]

I suport the EZLN too

[Pete]

I beat you to fixing the thread title though.

I dunno about that :P I added "Guerrilla Groups" to the subtitle!

[RedCeltic]

Originally posted by [email protected] 17 2004, 10:27 AM

I beat you to fixing the thread title though.

I dunno about that :P I added "Guerrilla Groups" to the subtitle!
but I fixed the typo which is what he asked for lol.

[Looter]

I support the PKK Terrorist Organization, they were once the World's most powerful terrorist organization. I support the PFLP, and the freedom fighters in Iraq, I support the Maoists in Nepal and Bihar, I support the New People's Army, I support Charles Taylor and the rebels in Sierre Leone, I support FARC and ELN and the Sendero Luminosa, I support N 17, Prov IRA.

[Pete]

but I fixed the typo which is what he asked for lol.

I was using the other statement as proof, but in good brainfart fashion forgot to meniton that

[SonofRage]

I support only the EZLN (http://www.ezln.org/) and the Earth Liberation Front (ELF) (http://www.earthliberationfront.com/).

[Bad Grrrl Agro]

Originally posted by [email protected] 17 2004, 05:55 PM
I support the PKK Terrorist Organization, they were once the World's most powerful terrorist organization. I support the PFLP, and the freedom fighters in Iraq, I support the Maoists in Nepal and Bihar, I support the New People's Army, I support Charles Taylor and the rebels in Sierre Leone, I support FARC and ELN and the Sendero Luminosa, I support N 17, Prov IRA.
I agee with a very few of those But I sympathise, not suport, a few others

[Bad Grrrl Agro]

ALF :ph34r:

[Bad Grrrl Agro]

I sympathise with the basques

[Ortega]

Originally posted by [email protected] 17 2004, 11:09 AM
What communist guerrillas around the world(past or present) do you support???

Edit: Can any mod or admin please correct the title, sorry :( typo.
From the groups I know, I support only the EZLN. The FARC and the ELN in Colombia have become little more than "revolutionary" drug-running mafias.

[Penguin Chariot Archer from Hell]

FARC, ELZN, ELN, ELF, ALF, Shining Path, N 17, IRA all have my respect and support.

Anyone have any opinions on the tamil Tigers?

[Ortega]

Shining Path has become a shadow of its former self since the capture of their leader - nevertheless, I still support them.
And the IRA, I had forgotten about them. I greatly support them as well.

[Bad Grrrl Agro]

Originally posted by Penguin Chariot Archer from [email protected] 17 2004, 06:51 PM
FARC, ELZN, ELN, ELF, ALF, Shining Path, N 17, IRA all have my respect and support.

Anyone have any opinions on the tamil Tigers?
at least someone suports the ALF. shining path kills other kinds of leftists other than their brand of communists, one of my dad's friends is a socialist who fled peru because the shining path was a threat to his life. now he is a community organiser in the US.

[Urban Rubble]

The Shining Path is a horrible terrorist group. Fuck those guys. I will debate this if anyone wants to. Serisouly, fuck those guys.

There is a very respectable guerilla group operating in Peru, they are "guevarists" (I guess) and are quite humane. You know, unlike the SP, they don't rape and loot Indian villages. They don't force natives to join them or be shot. Think this is propaganda ? It is not, I can give various unbiased sources.

[Y2A]

Shining Path is a disgrace. If they would have taken over Peru it would have killed any advancement. But hell whenever communists take over and the revolution turns into a complete failure then you guys can just say it was not "true" communism or turn on your words like Chomsky on the Khmer Rouge pre-revolution.

[Anarchist Freedom]

CGLM!
EZLN!


CGLM!

:che:

[Comrade Ceausescu]

Even I hate the Shining Path.They kill the people.I support the IRA.

[Ortega]

Originally posted by Urban [email protected] 17 2004, 02:18 PM
The Shining Path is a horrible terrorist group. Fuck those guys. I will debate this if anyone wants to. Serisouly, fuck those guys.

There is a very respectable guerilla group operating in Peru, they are "guevarists" (I guess) and are quite humane. You know, unlike the SP, they don't rape and loot Indian villages. They don't force natives to join them or be shot. Think this is propaganda ? It is not, I can give various unbiased sources.
I honestly don't know enough about the Shining Path to have an educated opinion. I'd be glad to know more about them, and more about the other revolutionary group in Peru...

[Ortega]

Originally posted by Socialist [email protected] 17 2004, 02:24 PM
CGLM!
EZLN!


CGLM!

:che:
Who are the CGLM, anyway?

[Bad Grrrl Agro]

glad to see some people agree with me that the shining path sucks but whats the name of this other group in peru

[Y2A]

The bastards lit a bomb off in my cousins neighborhood a while ago. They are murderers. I hope they all die. As for the IRA, I think I do agree with what they did in the early years of british occupation but the Real IRA and Continuity IRA formed after the ceasefire I do not agree with.

[Y2A]

Originally posted by [email protected] 17 2004, 07:35 PM
glad to see some people agree with me that the shining path sucks but whats the name of this other group in peru
I believe they are talking about the MTRA.

[JonP]

FARC, ELZN, ELN

[Bad Grrrl Agro]

ezln I like and I dont know quite enough info on the eln
but farc is a discrace to the left

[ComradeRobertRiley]

Originally posted by Ortega+Jan 17 2004, 09:30 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Ortega @ Jan 17 2004, 09:30 PM)
Socialist [email protected] 17 2004, 02:24 PM
CGLM&#33;
EZLN&#33;


CGLM&#33;

:che:
Who are the CGLM, anyway? [/b]
Civilian Geurrilla Liberation Movement&#33;

[Bad Grrrl Agro]

Originally posted by ComradeRobertRiley+Jan 17 2004, 11:23 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (ComradeRobertRiley @ Jan 17 2004, 11:23 PM)
Originally posted by [email protected] 17 2004, 09:30 PM

Socialist [email protected] 17 2004, 02:24 PM
CGLM&#33;
EZLN&#33;


CGLM&#33;

:che:
Who are the CGLM, anyway?
Civilian Geurrilla Liberation Movement&#33; [/b]
who are they

[kadamangudy]

The Tamil Tigers (LTTE) were once good, but now their terrorists. They take their fight from
Lanka to South India and attempt to attack trains in Tamil Nadu. They should focus their energy
on something productive.

[ComradeRed]

i support cglm, ezln and, if i were alive, the cuban communist mov&#39;t. :trotski: :hammer: :che: :engles: :marx: :castro: :cuba:

[BuyOurEverything]

EZLN, ELN, IRA, FARC. I don&#39;t have a problem with drug running in and of itself. I don&#39;t know enough about other guerrilla groups to form a decent opinion.

[Urban Rubble]

glad to see some people agree with me that the shining path sucks but whats the name of this other group in peru

Movimiento Revolucionario Tupac Amaru, the MRTA. They are pretty respectable. The Shining Path has attacked them quite a few times for not being "revolutionary enough". Apparently not being willing to bomb civilians and pillage Ashaninca villages makes you a pacifist.

If anyone wants to read some unbiased accounts of Shining Path terror, read "In the Forests of The Night" by John Simpson.

Y2A, are you from Peru ?

[MiDnIgHtMaRaUdEr]

Enemies of America are friends of mine.

[Intifada]

even bin laden

[Nobody]

Red Bridages- International Communist Bombat Party
Baadar-Meinhoft Gang (whoever is left)
Red Army Faction- see above
Japananse Red Army
EZLN
FARC
Nepali Maoists
ELN
Those Groups in Northern India
Kasmerhis
Kurds

Basically, everyone but Shining Path

[Bad Grrrl Agro]

Originally posted by [email protected]an 18 2004, 08:15 PM
even bin laden
yuck we have a fundamentalist on our hands

[MiDnIgHtMaRaUdEr]

Originally posted by [email protected] 18 2004, 04:15 PM
even bin laden
Yup, even Bin Laden. Like the Iraqis are doing, both the fundamentalists and the Baathists are fighting together against a common, more powerful enemy, the US. Granted, after the US is out. they probably will start fighting each other again, but I think that relationship is a model that we should follow. Either one of them separated don&#39;t stand a chance, but with if an allience is formed, maybe they. and likewise us, can achieve something.

[Al Creed]

I support the IRA&#39;s bid for freedom of Northern Ireland from The United Kingdom

[Pedro Alonso Lopez]

ELZN.

I do not support the IRA despite being Irish myself, in the Republic that is.

The bombing of innocent British people for imperialist crimes does not make sense. I like many young Irish people was Republican but the Omagh bombing really sunk it all in, they are fuckers.

Supporting the IRA is not supporting Irish freedom or anything like it, these people are not socialist in any way, the Origanal IRA was Marxist but was overtaken by the Provisionals in the 70&#39;s.

I feel I don&#39;t need to explain this or have done it too much at home.

[Urban Rubble]

Enemies of America are friends of mine.

Oh, like Hitler ? You&#39;re a fucking fool. The enemy of my enemy is my friend is quite possibly the stupidest concept ever thought of.


Yup, even Bin Laden. Like the Iraqis are doing, both the fundamentalists and the Baathists are fighting together against a common, more powerful enemy, the US. Granted, after the US is out. they probably will start fighting each other again, but I think that relationship is a model that we should follow. Either one of them separated don&#39;t stand a chance, but with if an allience is formed, maybe they. and likewise us, can achieve something.

Would you want to live in a world controlled by men like Bin Laden on his henchmen ? I for one would rather live under Capitalism, even in the shittiest parts of the Capitalist world. Living under Bin Laden or someone with his ideology would be hell beyond what Capitalism has shown itself to be. Nothing like a good old religious theocracy to make you pine for Capitalist exploitation.

I repeat, you&#39;re a fool.

[MiDnIgHtMaRaUdEr]

You can&#39;t always stand up for the ideology that you believe without picking and choosing sides. I agree that Islamic theocracy is worse then capitalism, and if an Islamic republic ruled the world, then I would support capitalists who wanted to overthrow it. I think you need to place your support tactfully. Not always to what you agree with the most ideologically, but might be able to help you achieve your goals.

[ComradeRobertRiley]

i dunno, i think id rather bin laden in charge than G W Bush

[Y2A]

Originally posted by [email protected] 19 2004, 11:30 AM
i dunno, i think id rather bin laden in charge than G W Bush
So you&#39;d rather live under sharia law then under a capitalist system???

Wow your really dumb and have been blinded by far-left propaganda, congrats&#33;

[John Galt]

I support no terrorist groups that currently exist.

The only groups that I can think of off the top of my head, would be the French Resistance in WWII.

[kadamangudy]

the fact that some here are willing to support kashmiries and even bin laden is a little disturbing. Kashmerie militants are god damn terrorists, they attack pilgrims in Kashmir every year. There are better ways to go about independence than killing defensless hindu pilgrims, (who are actually a minority in Kashmir). If the Kashmiries want independence, they should just vote in the elections for a candidate who supports a referendum in the region, and this is very possible because the Chief Minister of Kashmir is an elected position.

As for bin laden, he&#39;s simply a nut. He feels that he can achieve his goals by killing regular civilians, but then I guess its just his CIA training at work.

[YKTMX]

I have a general apathy towards left-leaning Guerilla groups. I don&#39;t support ANY terrorist action, as it is always counter-productive in my opinion.

[Hawker]

I support the Colombian guerrillas,I don&#39;t know what the groups name is,but they&#39;re the most largest in Latin America,with 17,000 men strong and rising.

[Y2A]

Originally posted by [email protected] 19 2004, 06:20 PM
I support the Colombian guerrillas,I don&#39;t know what the groups name is,but they&#39;re the most largest in Latin America,with 17,000 men strong and rising.
You don&#39;t even know what the groups name is and yet you support it??? What the hell??? How can you support something that you know nothing about???

BTW the name is FARC.

[Hawker]

Originally posted by Y2A+Jan 19 2004, 06:26 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Y2A @ Jan 19 2004, 06:26 PM)
[email protected] 19 2004, 06:20 PM
I support the Colombian guerrillas,I don&#39;t know what the groups name is,but they&#39;re the most largest in Latin America,with 17,000 men strong and rising.
You don&#39;t even know what the groups name is and yet you support it??? What the hell??? How can you support something that you know nothing about???

BTW the name is FARC. [/b]
I knew their name I just forgot it.

[Urban Rubble]

You can&#39;t always stand up for the ideology that you believe without picking and choosing sides. I agree that Islamic theocracy is worse then capitalism, and if an Islamic republic ruled the world, then I would support capitalists who wanted to overthrow it. I think you need to place your support tactfully. Not always to what you agree with the most ideologically, but might be able to help you achieve your goals

Then why the fuck did you just imply support for these religious fundamentalists ?


i dunno, i think id rather bin laden in charge than G W Bush

Then what I suspected is now confirmed, you&#39;re a complete fool. Seriously kid, you&#39;re hopeless.


I support the Colombian guerrillas,I don&#39;t know what the groups name is,but they&#39;re the most largest in Latin America,with 17,000 men strong and rising.

Sounds like you have a ton of knowledge about the guys. You didn&#39;t know, or "forgot" their name, yet you support them ? Do you have any idea how stupid that is ?

Read up on the FARC and then you can have an opinion.

[Hawker]

Originally posted by Urban [email protected] 20 2004, 02:24 AM
Sounds like you have a ton of knowledge about the guys. You didn&#39;t know, or "forgot" their name, yet you support them ? Do you have any idea how stupid that is ?
I know a lot of guerrilla movement groups do you expect me to remember all of them?

[BuyOurEverything]

I know a lot of guerrilla movement groups do you expect me to remember all of them?

If you&#39;re going to support them, yes. If you can&#39;t even remember their names, how are you going to remember their platform or history?

[MiDnIgHtMaRaUdEr]

Originally posted by John [email protected] 19 2004, 12:33 PM
I support no terrorist groups that currently exist.

The only groups that I can think of off the top of my head, would be the French Resistance in WWII.
Every revolution starts as a guerrilla resististance group, or "terrorist organization". Just because a person supports Al-Queda does not mean that they want to live under an Islamic government anymore then a capitalist one. Personally, there is nothing I would rather NOT live in then an Islamic fundamentalist regine. It merely means that both groups have enough sence and maturity to try and temporarily put aside their differences and try to work together to fight a common enemy. It&#39;s the same thing that is going on with the Baathists, the Mujahadeen, and the Jihadists in Iraq. They hate each other with a passion, they just have the sence enough to know that if anyone wants to get anything done, the Americans are going to have to go.

[marsell]

i support fully the trotskyist guerilla and militia groups now forming throughout the world.
i support but not politically the non trotskyist groups fighting imperialism like the iraqi freedom fighters and farc. but politically i oppose them, they would be counter-revolutionairy under the trotskyist socialist state.

[RedAnarchist]

I support any group that fights for the proletariat and aims to establish Communism throughout the world. We need a Global Revolution to help rid the world of greed, hunger, poverty, inequality and war

[marsell]

Originally posted by [email protected] 20 2004, 01:08 PM
I support any group that fights for the proletariat and aims to establish Communism throughout the world. We need a Global Revolution to help rid the world of greed, hunger, poverty, inequality and war
wait, we will maybe need war to defeat any remaining cappie countries. and we must not be too equal, or capitalism may abuse this and get into power. this is why there was the red army that trotsky led.

[cubist]

i see murder as unethical, and the loss of unhostile civillian live is uneccassary even if they are working in the building

[marsell]

Originally posted by [email protected] 20 2004, 01:27 PM
i see murder as unethical, and the loss of unhostile civillian live is uneccassary even if they are working in the building
yes but what if they a part of the capitalist bourgeiosie? or petty bourgeoeise, then it may be to our advantage to defeat t hem now and not later.

[cubist]

maybe, blow the company up not the employees thats what i was saying.