Leninism, the party and state capitalism

[The Feral Underclass]

As a former member of the SWP I have met Tony Cliff a few times when at Marxism, he was a funny little man. This MP3 is from 'Marxism 1995' and he talks on 'Lenin and the Party' and 'State Capitalism' (for the stalinists).

There are also MP3's from Paul Foot.

The reason I put it in here is so that those Stalinist members who have been restricted can have an opportunity to listen to Britains most prominant Trotskyists.

Enjoy.

Tony Cliff Speaks (http://mp3.lpi.org.uk/)

[The Feral Underclass]

one great quote was "we need centralism because the ruling class is centralistic." So the reason to subjugate the working class under the vanguards control is because the ruling class subjugate the working class under their control? Why change something good right!

:rolleyes:

[The Feral Underclass]

I am suprised that no one has commented on this. This is a leading trotskyist talking about the most important issues that ever come up on this board.

[YKTMX]

Nice one AI. :trotski:

[The Feral Underclass]

There is also a debate after the talk on state capitalism which is extremly interesting...

[YKTMX]

Originally posted by The Anarchist [email protected] 17 2004, 09:11 PM
There is also a debate after the talk on state capitalism which is extremly interesting...
That's good. Somtimes 'Marxism' can be a bit of a talking shop.

[Monty Cantsin]

The Anarchist Tension seeing that your waiting for people to comment i've listend to a bit so far and it's given me more understanding of lennins vanguard idea. but ill comment more later.