Rap music

[Bolshevik Sickle]

I don't have time to make a long thread right now, but I'll add to it later.

What is your opinion on rap music?

While rappers do discuss their struggles of growing up in a capitalist society, they also promote female subordination, sexism, and homophobia.


I'll add more later.

[Red_Banner]

I don't have time to make a long thread right now, but I'll add to it later.

What is your opinion on rap music?

While rappers do discuss their struggles of growing up in a capitalist society, they also promote female subordination, sexism, and homophobia.


I'll add more later.

So all rappers are masculine chauvanists?

This rapper isn't:
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[Remus Bleys]

The ideas of the ruling class are in every epoch the ruling ideas, i.e. the class which is the ruling material force of society, is at the same time its ruling intellectual force. The class which has the means of material production at its disposal, has control at the same time over the means of mental production, so that thereby, generally speaking, the ideas of those who lack the means of mental production are subject to it. The ruling ideas are nothing more than the ideal expression of the dominant material relationships, the dominant material relationships grasped as ideas.

But I'm into Bourgeois Romanticism. So whatever.

[synthesis]

While rappers do discuss their struggles of growing up in a capitalist society, they also promote female subordination, sexism, and homophobia.

Some do. Others just see themselves as putting their thoughts out there as a sort of gonzo journalism, so to speak. It all has to be seen as a reflection of the culture the artist grew up in and the intended audience of the music.

I wish rap culture would be less bigoted, if only so I could start a thread about battle rappers, with KOTD/URL videos and such, without being condemned as a reactionary.

[Rational Radical]

Every form of music has some reactionary shit in it,it's just that hip-hop is marketed to be more vocal about it.

[Bolshevik Sickle]

Some do. Others just see themselves as putting their thoughts out there as a sort of gonzo journalism, so to speak. It all has to be seen as a reflection of the culture the artist grew up in and the intended audience of the music.

I wish rap culture would be less bigoted, if only so I could start a thread about battle rappers, with KOTD/URL videos and such, without being condemned as a reactionary.


I understand. While I am advocate of free speech, I am no fan of hate speech. In this one song by Eminem he talks about how he got screwed over by some woman, and then killed her over it.

Free speech would suggest that he should be allowed to vent his frustration on the situation. It is hate speech when you are glorifying mysoginy and woman-beating.

If I had political power I would be quick to enact hate speech laws, especially sexist (which in my opinion, is almost worse than racism) hate speach.


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[d3crypt]

I understand. While I am advocate of free speech, I am no fan of hate speech. In this one song by Eminem he talks about how he got screwed over by some woman, and then killed her over it.

Free speech would suggest that he should be allowed to vent his frustration on the situation. It is hate speech when you are glorifying mysoginy and woman-beating.

If I had political power I would be quick to enact hate speech laws, especially sexist (which in my opinion, is almost worse than racism) hate speach.


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You do realize that Eminem's songs are all fantasy right? He isn't even close to serious about any of this. (Not even a fan of him)

[synthesis]

Conversely, "Stan" is widely recognized as one of the best rap songs of all time and to my knowledge only accompanied by "Ether" in the list of songs that inadvertently added a new word to the subcultural lexicon.

[Bolshevik Sickle]

You do realize that Eminem's songs are all fantasy right? He isn't even close to serious about any of this. (Not even a fan of him)

Haha, really? Anyway that doesn't change the fact his songs promote sexism. Same with Tyler the Creator (If I had power, boy I'd sent him straight to the gulag).

It's not okay to promote hate speech, and allow it become popular in the mainstream media, because it brainwashes people to think it's okay.

On a side-note I notice many right-wing conspiracy theorist make the claim "Oh hur durr teh media promotes and gay marriage".That's rubbish. I have yet to see a movie that features a serious gay couple.


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[Os Cangaceiros]

I like rap that's all about nihilism, hedonism and the glorification of the lumpenproletarian lifestyle.

Actually not really. I value production a lot more than I value lyrics. That's why I've never really liked Wu-Tang Clan (and associated acts), just because while they may do lyrically clever shit, the production on a lot of their tracks is just so boring.