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[raisedonviolence18]

i'm new to this but i'm not new to the fact i am ready for a change. this is not an internet bullshit wanna' start something post. i am looking for someone who's sick of the "good ol' usa" and it's bullshit gov. want to make a change? then just reply back after you think about how many times you've been let down. i say we attack the problem right where it needs to be hit. law enforcement...without law enforcement to control what's going on in towns who's to stop us? by the time some higher rank police got there we could make a statement that there's something boiling out there and someone is getting sick of bullshit lies and conformity. i live in the W. Kentucky area, i have many skills in public "apperances". want make headlines? want get even? then leave a reply with a serious reply. i'll check back soon.
keep the hope alive,
raisedonviolence18

[Freiheitfuralle]

Exactly who and what are you proposing to rebel against? And I mean besides "bullshit lies and conformity". Conformity is ignorance but certainly is not a crime against humanity as far as I'm concerned. Can you articulate, or are you simply rebelling against your country because you are angry at BU$H and have nothing else to do? I understand your anger if it is directed against the bush adminmistration for it's imperialistic redneck views. However if you truly wish to make a difference you might try fighting for a clearly articulated cause instead of your apparent Rage Against The Machine, Zack de la Rocha, revolution-in-a-bottle ideas. Please take my advice and think about your cause before attempting to gather followers. You could even try creating a website to form a base for a political organization. I will be behind you all the way if you can think of something to actually rebel against sometime!

[Communist_Block]

dude.....dude.....dude.....

everyone wants to rebel...go ahead and do something about it...

start a petitin against america or something.....lol

[Comrade Ceausescu]

i'm new to this but i'm not new to the fact i am ready for a change. this is not an internet bullshit wanna' start something post. i am looking for someone who's sick of the "good ol' usa" and it's bullshit gov. want to make a change? then just reply back after you think about how many times you've been let down. i say we attack the problem right where it needs to be hit. law enforcement...without law enforcement to control what's going on in towns who's to stop us? by the time some higher rank police got there we could make a statement that there's something boiling out there and someone is getting sick of bullshit lies and conformity. i live in the W. Kentucky area, i have many skills in public "apperances". want make headlines? want get even? then leave a reply with a serious reply. i'll check back soon.
keep the hope alive,
raisedonviolence18

You are such a fucking cop,its not even funny.

[Sensitive]

Originally posted by [email protected] 16 2004, 05:23 PM
i live in the W. Kentucky area, i have many skills in public "apperances". want make headlines? want get even? then leave a reply with a serious reply. i'll check back soon.
keep the hope alive,
raisedonviolence18
Hey, I think I found your website. (http://www.danvillepd.com/Index.html)

[el_profe]

Originally posted by Comrade [email protected] 20 2004, 08:39 AM

i'm new to this but i'm not new to the fact i am ready for a change. this is not an internet bullshit wanna' start something post. i am looking for someone who's sick of the "good ol' usa" and it's bullshit gov. want to make a change? then just reply back after you think about how many times you've been let down. i say we attack the problem right where it needs to be hit. law enforcement...without law enforcement to control what's going on in towns who's to stop us? by the time some higher rank police got there we could make a statement that there's something boiling out there and someone is getting sick of bullshit lies and conformity. i live in the W. Kentucky area, i have many skills in public "apperances". want make headlines? want get even? then leave a reply with a serious reply. i'll check back soon.
keep the hope alive,
raisedonviolence18

You are such a fucking cop,its not even funny.
:lol: :lol:
what? do you really think that? an undercover cop wanting to bust 14 yr old kids because they hate society because they are outcast in school. :lol: :lol:

[el_profe]

Originally posted by [email protected] 16 2004, 11:23 PM
i'm new to this but i'm not new to the fact i am ready for a change. this is not an internet bullshit wanna' start something post. i am looking for someone who's sick of the "good ol' usa" and it's bullshit gov. want to make a change? then just reply back after you think about how many times you've been let down. i say we attack the problem right where it needs to be hit. law enforcement...without law enforcement to control what's going on in towns who's to stop us? by the time some higher rank police got there we could make a statement that there's something boiling out there and someone is getting sick of bullshit lies and conformity. i live in the W. Kentucky area, i have many skills in public "apperances". want make headlines? want get even? then leave a reply with a serious reply. i'll check back soon.
keep the hope alive,
raisedonviolence18
I want to join your revolution, go get your BB gun and i will get my paintballl gun and we can go shoot at the people who mistreated you in high school. :lol: :lol: :lol:

[Comrade Ceausescu]

what? do you really think that? an undercover cop wanting to bust 14 yr old kids because they hate society because they are outcast in school.

Shut the fuck up. With the whole patriot act thing, I wouldn't be suprised if there were some sort of cops here surveiling people who advocate the violent overthrow of the government.

[Comrade Ceausescu]

I want to join your revolution, go get your BB gun and i will get my paintballl gun and we can go shoot at the people who mistreated you in high school.

I got an even better idea! How about, I go get my real gun, and shoot you in the head!Dude! :lol: :lol:

[marsell]

Originally posted by [email protected] 16 2004, 11:23 PM
i'm new to this but i'm not new to the fact i am ready for a change. this is not an internet bullshit wanna' start something post. i am looking for someone who's sick of the "good ol' usa" and it's bullshit gov. want to make a change? then just reply back after you think about how many times you've been let down. i say we attack the problem right where it needs to be hit. law enforcement...without law enforcement to control what's going on in towns who's to stop us? by the time some higher rank police got there we could make a statement that there's something boiling out there and someone is getting sick of bullshit lies and conformity. i live in the W. Kentucky area, i have many skills in public "apperances". want make headlines? want get even? then leave a reply with a serious reply. i'll check back soon.
keep the hope alive,
raisedonviolence18
no, we might need the police for after the revolution. we should take out those who control it, and convert the police to trotskyism, to use for the police force of socialism. it will be quicker than training the workers about how to enforce the law even if it is changed some



Shut the fuck up. With the whole patriot act thing, I wouldn't be suprised if there were some sort of cops here surveiling people who advocate the violent overthrow of the government. .
yes comrade, plus there is the counter-revolutionairiies. they might not be working for the govt now but in the future after revolution they may assist them.

[el_profe]

Originally posted by Comrade [email protected] 20 2004, 08:53 AM

what? do you really think that? an undercover cop wanting to bust 14 yr old kids because they hate society because they are outcast in school.

Shut the fuck up. With the whole patriot act thing, I wouldn't be suprised if there were some sort of cops here surveiling people who advocate the violent overthrow of the government.
OH, did you get offended?, yes, cops are in constant surveillance of a website full of angry 14yr old kids who talk about a revolution but dont have the balls to stand up to the people that treat them like shit in school. :lol: :lol:


got an even better idea! How about, I go get my real gun, and shoot you in the head!Dude!
Oh no, im real scared now, first of all you dont have a gun, I doubt that your daddy has one. Second i bet youve never even shot a gun, and if you had a gun you would not have the balls to use it, so shut the fuck up, and go do your homework. :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

[Y2A]

[email protected]_profe so true!!! AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA :lol: :lol: :lol:

"Get back at the people who mistreated you during high school" :lol: :lol: :lol:

"A Cop" :lol: :lol: :lol:

Ahhhhh this board never seizes to amuse me.

[Y2A]

Hey profe check this out.

The hard working suburban kids. I'm sure Marx would have been proud that his future followers were using his teachings to rebel against there parents. (http://www.che-lives.com/forum/index.php?act=ST&f=4&t=21398)

They're even planning a revolution!!! Come one comrades, revolt against those big borguroise that stuffed you in the garbage in high school! (http://www.che-lives.com/forum/index.php?act=ST&f=4&t=21136)

[Saint-Just]

Originally posted by Comrade [email protected] 20 2004, 08:39 AM

i'm new to this but i'm not new to the fact i am ready for a change. this is not an internet bullshit wanna' start something post. i am looking for someone who's sick of the "good ol' usa" and it's bullshit gov. want to make a change? then just reply back after you think about how many times you've been let down. i say we attack the problem right where it needs to be hit. law enforcement...without law enforcement to control what's going on in towns who's to stop us? by the time some higher rank police got there we could make a statement that there's something boiling out there and someone is getting sick of bullshit lies and conformity. i live in the W. Kentucky area, i have many skills in public "apperances". want make headlines? want get even? then leave a reply with a serious reply. i'll check back soon.
keep the hope alive,
raisedonviolence18

You are such a fucking cop,its not even funny.
Yes, Comrade Ceaucescu. I made the assertion in a previous thread that this individual was trying to incite people to say certain things. I am not entirely sure. I think it most likely he wants to inform for the FBI.

[el_profe]

Originally posted by [email protected] 20 2004, 09:44 PM
Hey profe check this out.

The hard working suburban kids. I'm sure Marx would have been proud that his future followers were using his teachings to rebel against there parents. (http://www.che-lives.com/forum/index.php?act=ST&f=4&t=21398)

They're even planning a revolution!!! Come one comrades, revolt against those big borguroise that stuffed you in the garbage in high school! (http://www.che-lives.com/forum/index.php?act=ST&f=4&t=21136)
:lol: :lol: this is great, I have to make a post to call them out on this, I did not know about this post, but i always knew that these where all fakes. there just mad at society for making them "outcast" so they decide to become communist. THEY DID NOT ANALYZE and say, communism is the best solution, they are just driven by emotions, that is why you get so many morons denying facts, and creating these great heroes out of horrible murderers.
And to think that redstar or one of the commies, insulted me because i said they where all rich,white and mad because society made them "outcast" :lol: :lol: :lol:
I was so right. :lol:

[Y2A]

Originally posted by el_profe+Jan 20 2004, 10:13 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (el_profe @ Jan 20 2004, 10:13 PM)
[email protected] 20 2004, 09:44 PM
Hey profe check this out.

The hard working suburban kids. I&#39;m sure Marx would have been proud that his future followers were using his teachings to rebel against there parents. (http://www.che-lives.com/forum/index.php?act=ST&f=4&t=21398)

They&#39;re even planning a revolution&#33;&#33;&#33; Come one comrades, revolt against those big borguroise that stuffed you in the garbage in high school&#33; (http://www.che-lives.com/forum/index.php?act=ST&f=4&t=21136)
:lol: :lol: this is great, I have to make a post to call them out on this, I did not know about this post, but i always knew that these where all fakes. there just mad at society for making them "outcast" so they decide to become communist. THEY DID NOT ANALYZE and say, communism is the best solution, they are just driven by emotions, that is why you get so many morons denying facts, and creating these great heroes out of horrible murderers.
And to think that redstar or one of the commies, insulted me because i said they where all rich,white and mad because society made them "outcast" :lol: :lol: :lol:
I was so right. :lol: [/b]
What&#39;s funny is that I just came out from the inner city and my parents are workers(REAL workers btw), and I have even worked in a factory for a while in my life, yet they are the ones that are "struggling" they are the vanguard of the workers, it&#39;s pathetic.

[Comrade Ceausescu]

El profe,you make huge steroetypes.What&#39;d you mean the people who pick on me?lol I make fun of the other people their. they are all incredibly stupid.So a friend and I just make fun of them all.

[LSD]

What&#39;s funny is that I just came out from the inner city and my parents are workers(REAL workers btw), and I have even worked in a factory for a while in my life, yet they are the ones that are "struggling" they are the vanguard of the workers, it&#39;s pathetic.

wel.......that&#39;s all nice and good I suppose, but to be honest I don&#39;t see where you&#39;re going.

Don&#39;t get me wrong, it&#39;s a classic move,
Attack the person, Attack their ideology. Congratulations on digging up that old favorite.


But really who cares?????

The validity of an argument has nothing to do with who presented it,

Adam Smith certainly wasn&#39;t working class, but if I argued that that disproved capitalism, you&#39;d, justifiably, laugh.
Adam Smith was also never involved in sales or retail or production or manufacturing or business or labour or stocks or bonds. If I were to argue that that disproved capitalsim, you&#39;d be laughing again.

And maybe after all that laughing you&#39;d realize that an idology is exactly as strong as its ideas.
Not its creator, not its followers, its ideas.
It is one of the fundamental laws of logic.


You disagree with communism....fine.....

You want to defend capitalsim.....fine.....

But, honestly, if you can&#39;t attack the ideas,
don&#39;t embarass yourself by attacking the people.

At this point, that move has just become far too clichéd.

[el_profe]

Originally posted by Comrade [email protected] 20 2004, 10:40 PM
El profe,you make huge steroetypes.What&#39;d you mean the people who pick on me?lol I make fun of the other people their. they are all incredibly stupid.So a friend and I just make fun of them all.
thanks for proving my point, yes, you and your other only friend make fun of the other people, but you dont make fun of them in there faces, or else they would beat you up :lol: :lol: :lol:

WHY DONT YOU GRAb YOUR GUN THAT YOU where going to use to shoot me and shoot them. :lol: :lol:
oh wait, you dont have a gun :lol: :lol:

[Saint-Just]

el profe, these things are irrelevent. This site is made up of many teenagers, so of course they will talk about their personal lives and so on. However, it also has many older members. Society making people outcast is as much of a problem under socialism as it is under capitalism, and if you do not recognise it as a problem you are simply a rather inhumane person. However, unlike you I would not suggest that this has anything to do with you ideology, rather it is to do with your immature character. Other members have suggested you are immature, based on this thread I would agree with them. You criticise some of the socialist members of this board for being immature, however you seem to behave similarly.

What&#39;s funny is that I just came out from the inner city and my parents are workers(REAL workers btw), and I have even worked in a factory for a while in my life, yet they are the ones that are "struggling" they are the vanguard of the workers, it&#39;s pathetic.

Where does someone say that they are middle class yet &#39;struggling&#39; similarly to a working class individual?

[Hegemonicretribution]

el_profe, would you be willing to answer a few questions on capitalism for me, I have never had the joys of talking to a capitalist that has valued their ideology more than the condemnation of red bastards. If you are up for a few serious debates please reply or pm me.. I don&#39;t know can restricted members pm? :huh: ah well just if you have nothing more important to do.

[el_profe]

Originally posted by Chairman [email protected] 21 2004, 10:26 PM
el profe, these things are irrelevent. This site is made up of many teenagers, so of course they will talk about their personal lives and so on. However, it also has many older members. Society making people outcast is as much of a problem under socialism as it is under capitalism, and if you do not recognise it as a problem you are simply a rather inhumane person. However, unlike you I would not suggest that this has anything to do with you ideology, rather it is to do with your immature character. Other members have suggested you are immature, based on this thread I would agree with them. You criticise some of the socialist members of this board for being immature, however you seem to behave similarly.


I never said your an outcast because of your idology, its because of your personality.
However many on this board who are outcast decide to go against "mainstream" society, so they say they are communist and atheist because its there way of like going against society.


They did not come to a conclusion on communism based on facts or by analyzing things, they just know that most of society is against communism and since in there minds society has made them outcast they will "become" communist just to ba against what most of society says/thinks.

This also happens with a kid who has a religious or republican or capitalist parents, kids want to rebel or feal different from there parents so they "become" atheist or communist.


The same with atheism, I remember in High school, people that where "atheist" not because they did not believe in god, but bvecause they hated god, because they blame god for any "bad" thing that happens to them or because there parents where religious and they wanted to go against what there parent says/thinks.
Of course not all people on this board got to be communist because of this but I would argue that alot of them have. And it is true, you can see in the post, the resentment many people on this board have. They are driven by emotions rather than thinking.
You can see this in the denial of murders by the USSR, or cuba or any other "communist" country.

You also see this in the way people make idols out of criminals, its actually sad to see these loser defend criminals like Stalin, and deny or come up with some justification for the actions of these murderers.
With cuba, you got morons here denying or justifying the fact that people in CUba are not allowed to leave there country at will, they have to escape.

[LSD]

They did not come to a conclusion on communism based on facts or by analyzing things, they just know that most of society is against communism and since in there minds society has made them outcast they will "become" communist just to ba against what most of society says/thinks.

And how do you think most capitalists choose capitalism?? Carefull examination of the alternatives?


The same with atheism, I remember in High school, people that where "atheist" not because they did not believe in god, but bvecause they hated god, because they blame god for any "bad" thing that happens to them or because there parents where religious and they wanted to go against what there parent says/thinks.

Now who&#39;s referencing high school?

But honestly, of all the millions of angry and disaffected teens in the world, how many choose.......communism??

Believe me if every teenager who&#39;s ever felt left out by society became a marxist, you&#39;d see a revolution tommorrow.


Besides, it is quite possible that non-conformists who would be rejected by the rather infantile (you have to admit) teenage "society", would be the same ones likely to rebel against modern society or its institutions. But that does not mean that one is a product of the other.

You can never assume causality without proof.


Of course not all people on this board got to be communist because of this but I would argue that alot of them have. And it is true, you can see in the post, the resentment many people on this board have. They are driven by emotions rather than thinking.

Well, it&#39;s a message board, and you&#39;re only seeing a section of it.

A section which tends to bring out emotions because it is centered around "opposing ideologies"

You cannot assume that someone is a communist solely due to emotions just because they are emotional here.



.....but yah, there are assholes in every ideology.

That&#39;s life,
it doesn&#39;t mean anything.

[Saint-Just]

Lysergic Acid Diethylamide answered a lot of that.

You can see this in the denial of murders by the USSR, or cuba or any other "communist" country.

You also see this in the way people make idols out of criminals, its actually sad to see these loser defend criminals like Stalin, and deny or come up with some justification for the actions of these murderers.

Its funny to see you say this. The majority of people on this site to not defend Stalin. I do however, as far as I am aware I don&#39;t do this for &#39;emotional reasons&#39;, but for truth.

[Xprewatik RED]

How can you a Westerner talk about murders in the USSR. All you hear is what the US feeds you anyways. What about the fact that about 60%(guess) of Americans denie Americas&#39; murders? I don&#39;t feel like arguing gotta go sleep...