Does the user Ismail obsessively send any one else private messages all the time

[reb]

or is it just me that has this pleasure?

[Taters]

It means he likes ya, reb

[Ismail]

Five private messages in the span of a day on two different subjects, with three of them as replies, is hardly "all the time," much less obsessive.

[BOZG]

You mean he didn't send you the nude shots?

[Ismail]

Hoxha is so glorious photos of him are automatically considered adults-only.

http://i218.photobucket.com/albums/cc207/MrdieII/98-1.jpg

[reb]

He must really not like me calling him a supporter of the bourgeoisie and having the same idealist outlook as your average trot. So now he trawls this forum looking for stuff I am doing and then sends me messages about it. But like I said to him, people like him should not tolerated on a communist forum and should be openly mocked for the apologia they give for bourgeois states.

[Flying Purple People Eater]

Someone's got a foot up their arse..

[Ismail]

He must really not like me calling him a supporter of the bourgeoisie and having the same idealist outlook as your average trot. So now he trawls this forum looking for stuff I am doing and then sends me messages about it. But like I said to him, people like him should not tolerated on a communist forum and should be openly mocked for the apologia they give for bourgeois states.For the record the conversations went like so (I don't save my PMs nor my replies so mine are approximations):

Me: You posture as hysterically hating Trots, yet wasn't Rühle a member of the Dewey Commission?
Reb: Considering that you presumably think that the USSR was socialist, as in non-capitalist, I think your opinion on anything and everything should be openly mocked and not taken seriously. I don't debate entrenched bourgeois zealots, like you, in the same way that I don't debate entrenched religious zealots.

*few hours pass*

Me: [same subject as before, only pointing out how Dunayevskaya was Trotsky's secretary]
Reb: Pretty sure Lenin was affiliated with Trotsky at one point to.
Me: After Trotsky stopped being a Trotskyist and joined the Bolsheviks, then when Lenin died Trotsky established the "Left Opposition" and proved what Lenin said as late as April 1917, that Trotsky posed as a "leftist" but in reality helped the right.
Reb: Good bye. I am not doing this guilt by association thing, which is strangely typical of a Stalinist.
Me: Strange how "Stalinists" don't have such associations.

Also I don't "trawl the forum," you happened to be posting in a thread I was posting in. I found your replies pompous and dumb, ergo the PMs.

[bcbm]

i wish



siiiiiigh

[bad ideas actualised by alcohol]

No. :crying:

Ismail I thought we had a thing going man.

:(

[Ismail]

No. :crying:

Ismail I thought we had a thing going man.

:(You randomly became uncool.

[Art Vandelay]

I'm only fortunate enough to randomly get pms about how I'm a shill for Castro (cause I said he was my favorite bourgeois politician) or how my 'Marxism-Leninism-ismailism' user group had external backers like the forum games, who are trying to undermine revleft. Oh I guess I did get asked what works on Alabnia I'd like to see translated into English, but asking me that is about as perplexing as the other ones.

[Remus Bleys]

He keeps sending me parts of Bukharins trial.

[Ismail]

He keeps sending me parts of Bukharins trial.Only the amusing parts, as you know.

The 1937 trial of Radek, Pyatakov and others also had amusing bits, such as the case of a minor defendant, Arnold, which I'll probably make a thread about in a few days.

[Art Vandelay]

Yeah, communists who worked tirelessly for decades to help spark the first successful seizure of state power by the proletariat, being tortured and murdered on trumped up charges is totally fucking amusing. Seriously I'm no Bukharin fan, he was politically to the right of Stalin in the 20's, but there is nothing amusing about the Moscow show trials.

[synthesis]

Beria getting what was coming to him, on the other hand...

[BOZG]

I never get PMs :(

[synthesis]

(I don't save my PMs nor my replies so mine are approximations)

Really, you delete all your PMs? Why?

[Art Vandelay]

Beria getting what was coming to him, on the other hand...

I hope you're not trying to compare the two situations? I'm glad that scumbag Beria went out naked in a cell begging for his life.

[synthesis]

I hope you're not trying to compare the two situations?

You said:


there is nothing amusing about the Moscow show trials.

I said:


Beria getting what was coming to him, on the other hand...

In fact it is amusing to me how all the people who did the dirty work for Stalin's purges behaved when it was their turn for Room 101.

[Art Vandelay]

You said:



I said:



In fact it is amusing to me how all the people who did the dirty work for Stalin's purges behaved when it was their turn for Room 101.

Eh, I don't find anything amusing about people being killed (whether or not I consider it justified), I guess that's just a personal difference. I would of personally put the bullet in Beria's head, but I wouldn't of been giggling while I was doing it.

[Ismail]

Yeah, communists who worked tirelessly for decades to help spark the first successful seizure of state power by the proletariat, being tortured and murdered on trumped up charges is totally fucking amusing. Seriously I'm no Bukharin fan, he was politically to the right of Stalin in the 20's, but there is nothing amusing about the Moscow show trials.There were, in fact, amusing and random parts that caused those observing the trials in court to laugh. Here's one of them (pages 622-623 of the 1938 trial):

VYSHINSKY: I have no questions to put to the Commission of Experts. I have some questions to put to certain of the accused.

THE PRESIDENT: You may.

VYSHINSKY: Accused Rosengoltz, as is evident from the record—in Vol. VI, p. 17—when Rosengoltz was arrested, a small piece of dry bread wrapped up in a bit of newspaper and sewed into a piece of cloth was found in his hip pocket, and in this bit of bread was a prayer written out on a piece of paper. I would like the Court s permission to read some passages from the text of this so-called prayer and to ask the accused Rosengoltz to give his explanation of this, (to Rosengoltz.) Do you deny this fact? Here is the text:

"Let God arise, let his enemies be scattered: let them also that hate him flee before him. As smoke is driven away, so drive them away: as wax melteth before the fire, so let the wicked perish at the presence of God. . . .

"He that dwelleth in the secret place of the most High shall abide under the shadow of the Almighty. I will say of the Lord, He is my refuge and my fortress: my God; in him will I trust. Surely he shall deliver thee from the snare of the fowler, and from the noisome pestilence. He shall cover thee with his feathers, and under his wings shalt thou trust: his truth shall be thy shield and buckler. Thou shalt not be afraid for the terror by night; nor for the arrow that flieth by day; nor for the pestilence that walketh in darkness; nor for the destruction that wasteth at noonday. . . ."

How did this get into your pocket?

ROSENGOLTZ: My wife put it in my pocket one day before I went to work. She said it was for good luck.

VYSHINSKY: And when was this?

ROZENGOLTZ: Several months before my arrest.

VYSHINSKY: And you carried this "good luck" in your hip pocket for several months?

ROZENGOLTZ: I did not even pay attention . . .

VYSHINSKY: Nevertheless, you saw what your wife was doing?

ROZENGOLTZ: I was in a hurry.

VYSHINSKY: But you were told that this was a family talisman for good luck?

ROZENGOLTZ: Something of the sort.

VYSHINSKY: And you agreed to become the keeper of a talisman? I have no more questions.

[Vladimir Innit Lenin]

yeah when I first joined in 2009 he sent me loads of PMs, added me on instant messanger and bombarded me with Stalinist bullshit.

Ironically, his fanatical attempts to 'convert' me to his stalinist religion are one of the prime reasons why I investigated the different left ideologies further and came to the conclusion that I never, ever wanted anything to do with Hoxha, Stalin, or Ismail.

But yeah, when Ismail gets a bit worked up he does tend to go into full out stalker mode.

[Ismail]

I don't even remember messaging you on AIM, but then again I message a lot of people on RevLeft.

Of course then and now you remain an apologist for Cuba, only now you're so absurdly ultra-left (to the point of denouncing the NEP) I would never have you on my AIM list to begin with.

[Fourth Internationalist]

At least Ismail is dedicated to his cause and, I think, doesn't really harass people, unlike other users.

[Vladimir Innit Lenin]

I don't even remember messaging you on AIM, but then again I message a lot of people on RevLeft.

Of course then and now you remain an apologist for Cuba, only now you're so absurdly ultra-left (to the point of denouncing the NEP) I would never have you on my AIM list to begin with.

you do know the cold war finished over 20 years ago, right? You can stop with the slanderous bullshit.

You're an apologist for a nationalist asshole. I'll take principled opposition to managing capital in 1920s Russia anyday over that.

[Ismail]

you do know the cold war finished over 20 years ago, right?Castro kept busy afterwards as a prominent bourgeois nationalist "socialist," from clarifying in 1992 that Gorbachev "struggled to perfect socialism" to denouncing Stalin and praising Trotsky in his memoirs, from praising "socialism with Chinese characteristics" to praising bourgeois-nationalist regimes in Nicaragua and Venezuela, and so on. Cuba to this day continues to be upheld by countless Trots and others opposed to Marxism-Leninism.


You're an apologist for a nationalist asshole. I'll take principled opposition to managing capital in 1920s Russia anyday over that.It was precisely those who denounced "Stalinism" that followed the road of nationalist deviation from Marxism-Leninism. As Hoxha noted in 1981, "When our Party began the struggle against Khrushchevite revisionism, the communist parties which made common cause with Khrushchev looked, more or less, like a united bloc with a single line, which was that of the 20th Congress of the Communist Party of the Soviet Union. Today, however, 20 years later, they are split and divided into many trends and factions, are fighting and clashing with one another and have been overwhelmed by bourgeois nationalism and social-democratic opportunism. These former communist parties have been transformed either into genuine parties of the new bourgeoisie ruling in the countries where the revisionists are in power, or into component parts of the structures of the bourgeois state, as in the old capitalist countries." (Selected Works Vol. VI, p. 422.)

[synthesis]

Eh, I don't find anything amusing about people being killed (whether or not I consider it justified), I guess that's just a personal difference. I would of personally put the bullet in Beria's head, but I wouldn't of been giggling while I was doing it.

There's a difference, to me, between looking at historical records of people you both detest and have never known being killed seventy-some years ago, and actually killing someone yourself.

Not that I find this the same as wiping out the Old Bolsheviks, but I also find it amusing that sometimes when the Soviets captured a Nazi officer, they'd sit him at a piano and tell him he'd be shot when he stopped playing. Apparently one guy made it like eight hours before giving up the goose, so to speak; you have to at least admire the Soviets' patience here.

[Vladimir Innit Lenin]

Castro kept busy afterwards as a prominent bourgeois nationalist "socialist," from clarifying in 1992 that Gorbachev "struggled to perfect socialism" to denouncing Stalin and praising Trotsky in his memoirs, from praising "socialism with Chinese characteristics" to praising bourgeois-nationalist regimes in Nicaragua and Venezuela, and so on. Cuba to this day continues to be upheld by countless Trots and others opposed to Marxism-Leninism.

It was precisely those who denounced "Stalinism" that followed the road of nationalist deviation from Marxism-Leninism. As Hoxha noted in 1981, "When our Party began the struggle against Khrushchevite revisionism, the communist parties which made common cause with Khrushchev looked, more or less, like a united bloc with a single line, which was that of the 20th Congress of the Communist Party of the Soviet Union. Today, however, 20 years later, they are split and divided into many trends and factions, are fighting and clashing with one another and have been overwhelmed by bourgeois nationalism and social-democratic opportunism. These former communist parties have been transformed either into genuine parties of the new bourgeoisie ruling in the countries where the revisionists are in power, or into component parts of the structures of the bourgeois state, as in the old capitalist countries." (Selected Works Vol. VI, p. 422.)

cool story. You enver fail to bring a hoxha quote to the table, a tribute to your unhealthy love of that minor footnote in history.

[Vladimir Innit Lenin]

predictably he'll now find and post a hoxha quote imagining hoxha's perceived importance in history...

[Lily Briscoe]

cool story. You enver fail to bring a hoxha quote to the table
lol tell me this was intentional

[motion denied]

lol tell me this was intentional

:lol::lol::lol:

[Crabbensmasher]

Hoxha is so glorious photos of him are automatically considered adults-only.



I was looking at this while my boss walked by. I was fired on the spot.

Little did he know, I keep an album of Hoxha pictures in my bottom drawer. I've been sneaking peeks during lunchbreak for years!

But still, you could have used some NSFW tags. Goddamnit

[Vladimir Innit Lenin]

yeah it was though i've used it before in some hoxha thread so it's not 100% original. I'll admit I chuckled at myself tho.

[Ismail]

predictably he'll now find and post a hoxha quote imagining hoxha's perceived importance in history...Alrighty, from Hoxha's November 29, 1984 speech on the 40th anniversary of the liberation of Albania in 1944:

For 40 years on end, my valiant Albania, you have kept the honoured flag of Marxism-Leninism flying, just as through the centuries you have kept the flag of freedom flying, the red flag with the two-headed eagle, to which you added a five-pointed star, the star of freedom, the star of socialism and communism.

Not for one moment during the 40 years of life in socialism have you, my people, with the Party of Labour at the head, allowed the new perfidious and powerful enemies to conquer you. Once again you drew the sword, which was now keener-edged, tempered in the fires of repeated battles, and forged on the anvil of history. With this sword you, my Party, mercilessly struck down the imperialists and reactionaries, struck down the modern revisionists of all hues, and compelled those secret revisionists, who, for their own hegemonic aims, seemed to be, and from time to time posed as if they were, Marxist-Leninists and our friends, to throw off their disguise. With these stands and your lofty example, you, my Party, performed your internationalist duty and, at the same time, told others that the struggle against the revisionist currents must not cease, that there could be no agreement or compromise with them, because they were renegades and traitors. The word of our Party, its clear thinking, its courage and determination, shone forth and became beacon-lights for the peoples and revolutionaries in the world.

You, my socialist Homeland, led by the Party of Labour, waged this heroic struggle with astonishing vigour, and your powerful voice was listened to because you rose resolutely against Titoism which was unmasked in the eyes of the whole world as an ideological and political agency of American imperialism and world reaction. Over a long period you have always struggled and raised your voice against American imperialism and all the reactionary bourgeoisie of the world which seeks to keep the peoples and the proletariat of the whole world under its heel, and in the same way you have raised your voice against the Soviet social-imperialists who are struggling for world hegemony, to oppress the peoples by threatening them with the force of arms, and atomic bombs. Later your powerful voice was raised to the skies of this troubled world against the practice and theory of Mao Zedong and the entire Chinese leadership which betrayed Marxism-Leninism and set out on the revisionist course to make China an imperialist world superpower.

Infuriated by the just stands, the determination and the courage of a small people and a valiant Party, the imperialist and revisionist enemies left nothing unsaid against us. They speak and write angrily and with evil aims, «What is this people, what is this Party which is making such a clamour, what are these stubborn creatures who are not afraid to oppose powerful states?! They must be crushed, they must be liquidated, they must be brought to their knees, starved into submission through blockades...» However, they are gravely mistaken, as they have always been mistaken, because they have not known and have not wanted to know the history of the Albanian people, the manly character of the Albanian, have not wanted to recognize what lofty meaning the freedom, independence and sovereignty of the Homeland has always had for the Albanian. As the capitalists, imperialists and reactionaries they are they have thought and still think that nothing can withstand their economic and military strength and their ideology. But, you see, the peoples, whether big or small, have the strength to resist enemies. The peoples who fight always triumph; the enemies are quite unable to destroy the Marxist-Leninist parties which stand unwaveringly on their principles. Marxism-Leninism, which guides the proletariat, the genuine communist parties and the peoples who are demanding liberation and their rights, is invincible. . . .

With their stands and opinions, socialist Albania and the Party of Labour of Albania have given and give heart and confidence to all and tell the proletariat and the peoples: stand as we stand, fight as we fight, because you will triumph as we have triumphed and are triumphing. Our victory is certain, our victory is a common victory, therefore, we must close our ranks in the heat of the war against enemies. Open fire on the revisionists, betrayers of the working class and the peoples, open fire on the imperialist plans of big world capital, because only in this way can the freedom, independence and sovereignty of the Homeland be won, and the revolution develop and triumph. All the talk about taking power by means of reforms is poppycock. The bourgeoisie and capitalism can never agree to allow the working class, the most advanced class in the world to which the future belongs, to take power. On the contrary, every day the enemies of the peoples and the proletariat are preparing sugar-coated poison pills and forging new chains of enslavement, therefore, only by fighting against the old system of the power of capital can the peoples and the proletariat triumph step by step and take power into their own hands. . . .

We have many friends and admirers in the world. Our friends are all the peoples of the world who have a great love and respect for Albania, speak with admiration about our country and our socialist reality, and want to know where we find this strength, because they still do not understand how this reality has been achieved. Therefore, it is our duty to make the victories of the Party of Labour, the Albanian people and socialist Albania known in all their aspects to the peoples, to explain them not only with the present, but with all the glorious past history of the Albanian people. These victories are like a steel chain, the links of which are the revolutionary events inseparable from each other, which represent, at different stages, the permanent ideals of the freedom, independence, democracy, and unity of our nation, of our well-being, culture and ceaseless progress. We must explain to our brothers and admiring friends that this chain of the life of the Albanian people has achieved unprecedented toughness at the present day, thanks to Marxism-Leninism which we are trying to understand profoundly in all its aspects and to faithfully apply its principles in the conditions of our country and the international situation.

[Ele'ill]

this thread got nasty

[Fourth Internationalist]

Why does everyone hate on Ismail?

[DasFapital]

Ismail is a decent bro. Sent me great info on the pro atheism campaigns in Albania. If Hoxha was more like Ismail I would be a Hoxhaist.

[Remus Bleys]

Why does everyone hate on Ismail?
I like Ismail as a human being.
I hate hoxha, and by extension Ismails politics.
This is a politics site, so it is easy to get those two confused.

[motion denied]

i like ismail as a human being.
I hate hoxha, and by extension ismails politics.
This is a politics site, so it is easy to get those two confused.

I wonder why people would think you hate ismail on some level

[Sir Comradical]

He sends messages, yes. I don't particularly mind because I'm not anti-social. Also I believe this is what revleft is for.

[Hrafn]

He sends messages, yes. I don't particularly mind because I'm not anti-social. Also I believe this is what revleft is for.

Wait, someone who isn't anti-social on Revleft?

Quick, restrict him!

[motion denied]

Wait, someone who isn't anti-social on Revleft?

Quick, restrict him!


I second Mr. Wuzhengfu's motion.

[synthesis]

To be fair, though I don't think I have anything in common with Ismail politically, I think Hoxha is a pretty interesting historical figure and - this is sort of embarassing, but as someone who once hoped to be a history professor, on a "scholarly" level I admire Ismail's work in this area.

[Ismail]

The conversations I have with people on AIM tend to be a lot more glorious.

Robespierre Richard: I feel like the reason why Albania has so many bunkers is
Robespierre Richard: they made a command&conquer style interface for Hoxha to look at production in Albania
Robespierre Richard: and he decided to make some bunkers
Robespierre Richard: but right-clicked by mistake and didn't notice
Robespierre Richard: so a few years later they were like "oh shit what are we going to do with all of these?"
Robespierre Richard: and just planted them everywhere

Salvador Allende: oh and Aryans fell from the stars
Ismail: lol
Salvador Allende: that's how they came to be
Salvador Allende: I'm serious
Salvador Allende: that's Aryan belief right there
Salvador Allende: going back to Himmler, aryans fell out of the sky
Salvador Allende: Remember Mao's quote "Where do good ideas come from? Do they fall from the sky?"
Salvador Allende: no, but bad ones do.

SocialismorBarbarism: ima make a like
SocialismorBarbarism: laxative
SocialismorBarbarism: called the great purge
SocialismorBarbarism: with stalins face on the bottle
Ismail: warning: do not take too many or else you will die
SocialismorBarbarism: yeah, the purge goes out of control
SocialismorBarbarism: and you like
SocialismorBarbarism: just keep shitting until you die

[A.J.]

I've only been skimming through this thread but as far as I can deduce the users "reb" and "The Boss" come across as being quite arrogant and nasty. There I said it.

[Brutus]

I used to get amusing AIMs about whatever he was reading, but I think I've fallen from his favour. :'(

[reb]

I've only been skimming through this thread but as far as I can deduce the users "reb" and "The Boss" come across as being quite arrogant and nasty. There I said it.

Oh no! I didn't hurt someone's sense of sensibilities, have I? Aw shucks. I feel as if I'm getting under the skin of someone and to be honest, if it's under the skin of a stalinist piece of shit then I really don't care how they feel about it. I don't tolerate bourgeois zealots no matter what ideology they take on to justify it. If I get a few private messages that I'm supposed to be annoyed about by someone that doesn't know what socialism is, like any other capitalist, then boo hoo to me.

[motion denied]

I've never witnessed a massive tendency war.

The left used to be more entertaining.

[Remus Bleys]

I wonder why people would think you hate ismail on some level
It confuses me too.

[Sea]

For the record the conversations went like so (I don't save my PMs nor my replies so mine are approximations):

Me: You posture as hysterically hating Trots, yet wasn't Rühle a member of the Dewey Commission?
Reb: Considering that you presumably think that the USSR was socialist, as in non-capitalist, I think your opinion on anything and everything should be openly mocked and not taken seriously. I don't debate entrenched bourgeois zealots, like you, in the same way that I don't debate entrenched religious zealots.

*few hours pass*

Me: [same subject as before, only pointing out how Dunayevskaya was Trotsky's secretary]
Reb: Pretty sure Lenin was affiliated with Trotsky at one point to.
Me: After Trotsky stopped being a Trotskyist and joined the Bolsheviks, then when Lenin died Trotsky established the "Left Opposition" and proved what Lenin said as late as April 1917, that Trotsky posed as a "leftist" but in reality helped the right.
Reb: Good bye. I am not doing this guilt by association thing, which is strangely typical of a Stalinist.
Me: Strange how "Stalinists" don't have such associations.

Also I don't "trawl the forum," you happened to be posting in a thread I was posting in. I found your replies pompous and dumb, ergo the PMs.Wait, hold on. Did you just try to use facts against someone who was wrong on the internet? Tsk tsk tsk, when will you learn? :laugh:

[Art Vandelay]

Why does everyone hate on Ismail?

I can only speak from personal experience, but it tends to have something to do with (1) him indirectly being responsible for my first ban on this site, since he was a major player in the forum games purge of 2011 (which I got caught up in, despite not being involved in the forum games), which is when his weird paranoid delusions about revleft being like 1930's USSR came to light in his inane 'neo-nazi infiltration of revleft' letter (which relate to some of the other shitty things he did as a mod, like editing people's posts that he didn't agree with) (2) the fact that he is the sleaziest debater in the world, who picks and chooses what he responds to out of peoples posts, instead of replying to the totality, (3) the fact that he routinely slanders people, ie: I'm a chavinist and a Castro shill, Rafiq is a Jucheist, etc..(4) the fact that he's wicked annoying with his Hoxha quotes and the fact that he thinks quoting someone is a substitute for an actual argument and finally (5) the fact he idolizes a man who butchered more communists then hitler. Maybe its just me...but yeah..that's enough reason.

[A.J.]

Oh no! I didn't hurt someone's sense of sensibilities, have I? Aw shucks. I feel as if I'm getting under the skin of someone and to be honest, if it's under the skin of a stalinist piece of shit then I really don't care how they feel about it. I don't tolerate bourgeois zealots no matter what ideology they take on to justify it. If I get a few private messages that I'm supposed to be annoyed about by someone that doesn't know what socialism is, like any other capitalist, then boo hoo to me.

This rather cathartic and barely coherent response, full of emotion and personal abuse, reveals more about yourself than it does me or anyone else.



You desperately need a blow job.

[Ismail]

(which relate to some of the other shitty things he did as a mod, like editing people's posts that he didn't agree with)I literally never did this. As for the events of December 2011, it was the BA and not the moderators who had the final say. Considering that RevLeft suffered a DDoS attack in response to banning various Neo-Nazis, it was evidently not a small issue. You were banned by the BA for their own reasons, I never mentioned you.


(2) the fact that he is the sleaziest debater in the world, who picks and chooses what he responds to out of peoples posts, instead of replying to the totality,Because "replying to the totality" is tedious and most of it isn't worth replying to anyway.


(3) the fact that he routinely slanders people, ie: I'm a chavinist and a Castro shill, Rafiq is a Jucheist, etc..Rafiq claimed that Kim Il Sung acted in accordance with the "objective conditions" of Korea in inventing Juche and replacing Marxism-Leninism with it. Rafiq attacked anyone who denounced Juche as an "opportunist." I never claimed Rafiq was a Kimilsungist, but I certainly did and continue to claim that such a position as his constitutes apologia for Juche, the same way there are persons who act as apologists for Castro, Chávez, and various other bourgeois nationalists by citing the "objective conditions" existent in their countries which supposedly justify anti-Marxist activity on the part of these regimes.


(5) the fact he idolizes a man who butchered more communists then hitler. Maybe its just me...but yeah..that's enough reason.These "communists" were rehabilitated by Khrushchev and Gorbachev, and many of these "communists," as you yourself admit, were to the right of Stalin.

[Vladimir Innit Lenin]

I literally never did this.

Sorry i'd just like to point out that this is a blatant lie. You were de-modded for editing someone's posts in the forum you were modding.

[The Feral Underclass]

I am sad that he does not send me PMs.

[Remus Bleys]

Sorry i'd just like to point out that this is a blatant lie. You were de-modded for editing someone's posts in the forum you were modding.

Not like I don't believe you, but source?

[Ismail]

Sorry i'd just like to point out that this is a blatant lie. You were de-modded for editing someone's posts in the forum you were modding.There is absolutely no evidence of this whatsoever. Then again there are people who think the BA made up the DDoS attack, too.

[Sasha]

I think this flamefest ran more than its course.
Closed