View Full Version : ebay Nazi(erhm "Russian Nationalist") flag
Red_Banner
18th October 2013, 04:41
http://www.ebay.com/itm/3x5-RUSSIAN-NATIONALIST-FLAG-Russia-banner-post-ussr-/151098066263?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item232e258557
I thought you weren't supposed to sell obvious Nazi stuff on ebay.
Removed the image for reasons related to German laws regarding the display of Nazi or Nazi-inspired symbols.
- RedAnarchist
Don't people usually have to cover the symbols up?
Sasha
18th October 2013, 05:10
Since this is from a legal russian party they maybe are exempt?
Remus Bleys
18th October 2013, 05:17
the Link redirects here for me http://www.ebay.com/bhp/3x5-banner
Red_Banner
18th October 2013, 05:18
If the English and Russian wikipedia entries for the Russian National Unity Party are right, they are not a registered party.
Red_Banner
18th October 2013, 05:43
the Link redirects here for me http://www.ebay.com/bhp/3x5-banner
Evidently somone reported the seller(flagdistributor (http://myworld.ebay.com/flagdistributor/)).
Shame, he had a Che and a pro-commy Bulgaria flag that looked tempting.
Blake's Baby
18th October 2013, 08:31
You're also not supposed to post obviously Nazi or nazi-inspired imagery on here, as the owner of the site is German and could apparently face prosecution under the strict German laws on displaying Nazi symbols.
RedAnarchist
18th October 2013, 13:08
I've removed the image from the OP.
Red_Banner
18th October 2013, 16:02
You're also not supposed to post obviously Nazi or nazi-inspired imagery on here, as the owner of the site is German and could apparently face prosecution under the strict German laws on displaying Nazi symbols.
But isn't that law a bizzaro world sort of fascism?
Yes the German government being against Nazism is a good thing.
But when they go after anti-fascists who are using the symbol to destroy fascism, who's really the fascist?
Has anyone here ever played the DOS games Wolfenstein and/or Spear of Destiny?
The games are about killing Nazis.
But because Germany has that law, the games were not allowed to be sold there.
Blake's Baby
18th October 2013, 18:46
So, in order to challenge the 'fascism' of the German state, you want to display fascist symbols, so someone else will be fined or go to prison or whatever, and RevLeft shut down; is that what you're saying
Red_Banner
18th October 2013, 19:05
So, in order to challenge the 'fascism' of the German state, you want to display fascist symbols, so someone else will be fined or go to prison or whatever, and RevLeft shut down; is that what you're saying
No, that's what you are saying.
I haven't said that.
People in Germany have gotten in trouble for even displaying a picture of a swastika being thrown in a waste basket.
ÑóẊîöʼn
18th October 2013, 19:20
So, in order to challenge the 'fascism' of the German state, you want to display fascist symbols, so someone else will be fined or go to prison or whatever, and RevLeft shut down; is that what you're saying
If those are the consequences of such a law then I don't think anyone here is recommending we break it. But that doesn't mean we can't point out how fucking stupid it is.
If that law doesn't have exceptions for certain purposes, e.g. critique and historical discussion, then it strikes me as fucking Orwellian.
I mean, do they go through old photos and erase every swastika? Do they not have pictures in those history books or sections thereof that deal with a certain period of German history?
Plus it's not the symbolism that's the truly objectionable part, I've always thought that the real problem was the military expansionism, ethnic cleansing, genocide, war crimes, and other nasty shit the Nazi regime did and which modern Nazis either support, justify and/or make excuses for. This undue concentration on symbols strikes me as utterly superficial.
Sasha
18th October 2013, 19:26
they did try to prosecute some antifa punks for selling merch with an crossed swastika that became quite a big case in germany, i think they eventually won with a ruling that is matters what is the context of displaying "illegal symbols": http://www.dagegen-bleiben.de/
http://www.spiegel.de/unispiegel/studium/hakenkreuz-jagd-wir-wissen-dass-wir-die-falschen-bestrafen-a-413443.html
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