Maduro: Zero hunger by 2019

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Maduro: Zero hunger by 2019

Venezuelan President Nicolás Maduro said on Wednesday that he was determined to achieve the “zero hunger” goal in Venezuela in 2019, near the end of his tenure.

“The revolution managed to cut undernutrition from nearly 10 points in the 90′s, to two percentage points at present,” Maduro trumpeted.

“We have achieved extraordinary levels of food access. First, 97% of our people have access to animal protein. That figure was far below 50% in the neoliberal era. Thanks to the revolution and the Food Mission,” the Venezuelan president remarked.

He seized the opportunity to show the certificate the UN Food and Agriculture Organization (FAO) issued to Venezuela back in June for reducing hunger. “Although this is painful for some people, I went to Rome to receive this recognition from the FAO; for those who are blinded by hatred,” Maduro asserted.



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http://english.eluniversal.com/nacional-y-politica/131016/maduro-hopes-to-achieve-zero-hunger-in-venezuela-in-2019

[Comrade Jacob]

I think they can do it...as long as they nationalise their media. (They have been causing shortages by lying about shortages ironically).

[boiler]

Yeah I believe that they will do it to

[bad ideas actualised by alcohol]

Yeah I believe that they will do it to

Why?

[argeiphontes]

First, 97% of our people have access to animal protein.

That's a nutritional mistake. But, I do understand that animal protein is a symbol of wealth.

In any case, I like reading about Venezuela and hope they accomplish the communization of their economy/society, even though they're essentially a DoP state (I would think).

[Red Commissar]

I think they can do it...as long as they nationalise their media. (They have been causing shortages by lying about shortages ironically).

That would probably just validate their bullshit claims that Venezuela already did that. You still see this thrown around that opposition papers and media aren't operational anymore.

Coincidentally, El Universal linked in the OP is one of the more well known anti-Chavista papers.




In any case, I like reading about Venezuela and hope they accomplish the communization of their economy/society, even though they're essentially a DoP state (I would think).

Well, Chavez's policies that Maduro is continuing always came off as more of a social-democratic one to me at least, or at least what was considered social democratic only a few decades ago (nationalizations, social programs, etc). It's just an indication of how deeply ingrained neoliberalism in not just in the Venezuelan opposition is but in the world that what Chavez did was viewed as a communist upheaval by redbaiting press.

[argeiphontes]

^ Yeah, that's probably right. Most of what I know comes from the news and analysis on ZNet.

Normally, I might advocate for ignoring the state (or using it in a secondary way) and revolutionizing the economy, but of course that attitude comes from the situation in the U.S. (And my anarchist leanings.)

[Art Vandelay]

Normally, I might advocate for ignoring the state (or using it in a secondary way) and revolutionizing the economy, but of course that attitude comes from the situation in the U.S. (And my anarchist leanings.)

That ignores the fact that the state itself is an economic entity. But no, Venezuala is not a dotp, it is merely another example of the reorganization of capital.

[Creative Destruction]

I'm hopeful that they'll do it, but I'm skeptical unless this means they're going to socialized the entire food production system in the country.

[boiler]

Why?

So far I think the Venezuelan government have done lots of great work in Venezuela and have made lots of the peoples lives in the country a hell of a lot better. And the government help out other countries also. From all the good work the government has done so far, I believe the government will accomplish this. I hope that they do anyway.

[Zealot]

That ignores the fact that the state itself is an economic entity. But no, Venezuala is not a dotp, it is merely another example of the reorganization of capital.

Yeah I'm sure the bourgeoisie are just chuffed about the situation in Venezuela right now.

[Art Vandelay]

Yeah I'm sure the bourgeoisie are just chuffed about the situation in Venezuela right now.

After reading your post I was left with 2 questions:

1) How is this in any sense a line of argumentation, or a response to my statement?

2) Why the hell did you decide to use the word chuffed? :lol:

[argeiphontes]

Well, their elections appear to be legit, they seem to be making some efforts to create local councils, and they've made great social achievements. Even if it's as state capitalism, I sympathize with that part. There's some good information on venezuelanalysis.com (http://venezuelanalysis.com/) (yes, only one 'a' in the middle).

What would be missing (or different) that makes this not a DoP? Is it because the elections can be lost and power returned to capital, or that there are elections at all and not rule by communal council? (I'm not advocating for DoP, just asking.) There doesn't seem to be a whole lot of 'D' but my understanding was that the point of the 'D' was that the proletariat dictates to capital instead of the other way around (like in the US).

[Art Vandelay]

What would be missing (or different) that makes this not a DoP? Is it because the elections can be lost and power returned to capital, or that there are elections at all and not rule by communal council? (I'm not advocating for DoP, just asking.) There doesn't seem to be a whole lot of 'D' but my understanding was that the point of the 'D' was that the proletariat dictates to capital instead of the other way around (like in the US).

An essential aspect of the 'dictatorship of the proletariat' is the working class seizing state power, smashing it, and establishing in its place, as Engels called it, a proletarian 'semi-state.' I think its pretty obvious, how the history of Venezuela during the Chavez era, doesn't meet that criteria. And for the record, the d in dotp, stands for a dictatorship in the traditional sense, it is literally the dictatorship of the proletariat.

[argeiphontes]

it is literally the dictatorship of the proletariat.

Ah, ok. So I'm right to not be in favor of it ;)

[Art Vandelay]

Ah, ok. So I'm right to not be in favor of it ;)

Well I'm not exactly completely opposed to the Chavez era. In the sense of it bringing tangible increases, to the traditional concept of standard of life, to the Venezuelan populace, it is somewhat positive. But, while highlighting the positive aspects of any, somewhat progressive, regime, radicals need to stress the bourgeois nature of the development. I support Venezuala, in the same sense I support Cuba; albeit Castro's regime has more romanticism to it, given the manner in which it seized state power.

[argeiphontes]

^ You're right, I was getting "romantic", but it's so hard to find a meaningful relationship ;) I used to be much more sympathetic toward Cuba before finding this site. Venezuela is probably a lot like Cuba with oil. That does seem to be their model, since they're partnering up. I wonder if the oil money will make a difference in outcomes? Of course, "delivering the goods" is only tangential to their structure.