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Yet_Another_Boring_Marxist
6th October 2013, 00:23
Look at “liberated” Libya and despair

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Welcome to the new Libya, a country “liberated” by NATO which now finds itself without the oil revenues which could make it rich, with no security, no stability and assassinations and corruption at unprecendented levels, writes Abdelbari Atwan.

Last Friday, the Economist magazine published a report about the implosion of Libya. My attention was caught by the pictures that illustrated the piece – particularly one of some graffitti on the wall of a sea front cafe in the capital Tripoli. “The only way to Heaven is the way to the airport” it read.

The joke is indicative of the troubled state of Libya nowadays following “liberation” by NATO warplanes in the sky and the revolution on the ground which toppled the dictatorial regime of Muammar al-Gaddafi.

Recently I have met many peope who are visiting London from Libya and they tell stories of life there which are hard to believe.

The capital Tripoli had no water or electricity for a whole week. The armed militia dominate and rule the streets in the absence of a workable government, a national security establishment and basic municipal services.

Onoud Zanoussi, the 18 year-old daughter of Abdullah Zanoussi, the former chief of Ghadaffi’s security establishment, was kidnapped on her release from prison following seven months behind bars accused of entering her country illegally. She was abducted in front of the prison gates and the abductor was one of the guards!

Chaos and anarchy

Two years ago, the British and French business community sharpened their teeth and rubbed their hands with glee in anticipation of their share of Libyan reconstruction. Now there isn’t a single foreign businessman in Tripoli, all of them ran for their lives after the assasssination of the American Ambassador and attacks on several foreign embassies and consulates.

During the NATO bombardment, news from Libya dominated the front pages and was the first news item on every Western and Arabic television station. There was 24-hour coverage about the Libyan Liberation miracle and the great victory achieved by NATO and the revolutionaries.

Nowadays it is very rare to find a Western reporter there and even more rare to read a decent report about Libya and what is really going on there.

Oil was the main objective and the real reason for the NATO intervention; but oil producation has all but ceased due to a strike by security guards on the oil fields and export terminal.

The ostensible reason for this strike is the demand for a pay rise but there is another, equally powerful, motive – they are protesting the demands of various separatist movements who are calling for self-rule for oil-rich Barca (Cyrenaica) with its capital in Benghazi. Most of Libya’s oil reserves are situated here.

Rather than the local or national government, a militia is in control of most of the oil fields and the export terminal; it has started to sell huge amounts of oil on the black market and is trying to expand these activities leading Ali Zidan, the Prime Minister, to threaten to bomb any unauthorized oil tanker going anywhere near these sites.

The irony is that the same thing is happening now in Eastern Syria where the militia and local tribes are in control of the oil fields in Deir Al-Zour, refining the oil themselves by hand and selling it on illegally. The same thing is still happening in the south of Iraq.

Western intervention

Iraq and Libya, of course, have “benefitted” from Western intervention and Britain and France have been proud to repeat what the mother of the West (the US) used to say about Iraq; first in Libya and now – if negotiations fail – in Syria.

That is: intervention will bestow great sophistication on the affected country which will immediately become a model of prosperity and stability and lead the way for other Arab countries, which are ruled by dictators, to invite and welcome military intervention.

In fact, this model has produced the worst kind of anarchy, failed security, political collapse and disintegration of the state.

Chaos rules in Libya. The assassination of politicians and journalists has become normal news in today’s Libya to the extent that Colonel Yussef Ali al-Asseifar – who was charged with investigating a rash of assassinations and arresting the people behind it – was himself assasinated on the 29 August when men from an unidentified group put a bomb under his car.

On the anniversary of 9/11 last week, a huge bomb ripped through the Foreign Ministry building in Benghazi.

Human Rights Watch has highlighted another atrocity in Tripoli on August 26, 2013, at the Main Corrections and Rehabilitation Institution, known by its former name al-Roueimy, where around 500 detainees, including five women, were being held.

The prisoners were on hunger strike to protest the fact that were detained without charge and in the absence of a fair trial. Unable to produce its own security detail, the government called in the Supreme Security Committee – composed of former anti-Gadaffi militiamen – to put down the uprising. Militia forces stormed the prison and shot the prisoners with live ammunition, wounding 19 people.

Gaddafi

The Prime Minister of Libya – Awadh al-Barassi – resigned on 4 August and was replaced by Ali Zeidan. Then, on 18 August, the interior minister, Mohammed al-Sheikh, resigned after only three months in post.

He cited lack of support from Ali Zeidan and the government’s failure to deal with widespread unrest and violence, to gain the people’s trust, or to adequately fund state agencies to provide the most basic services.

Libya is simply disintegrating along tribal and geographical fault lines. Most of its people are in state of fury, including the Berbers in the south, and national reconciliation is a distant prospect.

Popular frustration is at its peak; yet when demonstrators took to the streets outside the barracks of the powerful “Libyan Shield Brigade” to protest the unwarranted power of the militia, 31 people of their number were shot dead. The militia act completely outside the law.

Suleiman Kjam, a member of the parliamentarian committee for Energy, told a Bloomsberg reporter that the government is now spending its financial reserves after the production of oil dropped from 1.4 million barrels per day earlier this year to less than 160,000 bpd. He warned that if this situation continues, in the next few months, the government will not be able to pay the salaries of its employees.

The Gadaffi regime – and we say this for the millionth time – was an opressive dictatorship but Libya nowadays, with corruption at it peak and security non-existent, is difficult to understand or accept. Especially when we remember that Libya was liberated by the most sophisticated and advanced countries on the planet, according to Western criteria.

Mr Mohammad Abdel Azziz, the Libyan foreign minister, surprised many in the West and Arab world alike on 4 September when he objected to imminent US air strikes on Syria at a special meeting of the Arab League he was chairing to discuss possible intervention.

Maybe Mr Abdel Azziz, like many of his Libyan people, has formed his opinions as a result of the experiences of his own countrymen after Western military intervention.

We hope that the people of other Arab countries, and particularly Syria, will learn from the Libyan example.

It is true that some suggest that this is a temporary state of affairs for Libya and that following this transitionary period, stability will reign. They advise us to be patient. We hope their prophecy will prove to be correct but remain extremely skeptical with Iraq and Afghanistan also before our eyes.

Ya see kids? This is why imperialism is bad.

Red_Banner
6th October 2013, 00:26
"Chaos and anarchy"

I wish it was anarchy.

Sadly journalists rarely know anything about anarchism

Geiseric
6th October 2013, 00:26
That doesn't mean that supporting Ghadaffi was the right position for anybody to have, I know that some stalinoid is going to eventually make that claim.

Bolshevik Sickle
6th October 2013, 00:28
The U.S.A thrives off the suffering of other countries. It would be one thing if they went into the countries and at least cleaned up what they destroyed, but they have no plans of doing that anytime soon. I think one of the few countries that (considerably) fought off U.S. Imperialism would be Vietnam (which was backed by the Soviet Union I might add, thank goodness for that :hammersickle:).

Yet_Another_Boring_Marxist
6th October 2013, 00:29
That doesn't mean that supporting Ghadaffi was the right position for anybody to have, I know that some stalinoid is going to eventually make that claim.

And just as a reminder, no this wasn't my position, I do hope that no one thought I was implying that. However I do think that if there was no option, that Ghadaffi was better than the nato rebels. But to see it through a binary based on retrospective evidence is an unmarxist approach and hence principled neutrality is the only tenable position.

Paul Pott
6th October 2013, 03:05
"Chaos and anarchy"

I wish it was anarchy.

Sadly journalists rarely know anything about anarchism

The word "anarchy" rarely refers to anarchism.

It's used to say that central authority basically does not exist.

Paul Pott
6th October 2013, 03:06
About this time last year, we were swamped with reports of how Libya is turning into an entrepreneur hipster land.

adipocere
6th October 2013, 03:41
And just as a reminder, no this wasn't my position, I do hope that no one thought I was implying that. However I do think that if there was no option, that Ghadaffi was better than the nato rebels. But to see it through a binary based on retrospective evidence is an unmarxist approach and hence principled neutrality is the only tenable position.
"principled neutrality" is the position I take when I don't have a fucking clue.

erupt
6th October 2013, 12:37
I can only imagine southern European countries are more than a little irritated at the whole affair. Under Ghaddafi, trade between Libya and the European countries along the Mediterranean went well, if I'm not mistaken. Italy and France, I believe, did a lot of business with the "Great Socialist People's Libyan Arab Jamahiriya," and they are both large economies within the European Union.

Agathor
6th October 2013, 17:53
You'd probably be more convincing if you didn't use articles written by a documented lunatic who was probably on Gaddafi's payroll.

http://hurryupharry.org/2011/09/16/abdel-bari-atwan-paid-gaddafi-stooge

adipocere
6th October 2013, 21:05
You'd probably be more convincing if you didn't use articles written by a documented lunatic who was probably on Gaddafi's payroll.

http://hurryupharry.org/2011/09/16/abdel-bari-atwan-paid-gaddafi-stooge

And you would be more convincing if you weren't posting shit from an Islamophobic pro-Israel propaganda blog.

ckaihatsu
6th October 2013, 23:32
http://beyondmoney.net/2011/11/16/did-libyas-gadhafi-threaten-the-global-power-structure/


Gadhafi’s Gold-money Plan Would Have Devastated Dollar


Written by Alex Newman

Friday, 11 November 2011 10:15

It remains unclear exactly why or how the Gadhafi regime went from “a model” and an “important ally” to the next target for regime change in a period of just a few years. But after claims of “genocide” as the justification for NATO intervention were disputed by experts, several other theories have been floated.

Oil, of course, has been mentioned frequently — Libya is Africa‘s largest oil producer. But one possible reason in particular for Gadhafi’s fall from grace has gained significant traction among analysts and segments of the non-Western media: central banking and the global monetary system.

According to more than a few observers, Gadhafi’s plan to quit selling Libyan oil in U.S. dollars — demanding payment instead in gold-backed “dinars” (a single African currency made from gold) — was the real cause. The regime, sitting on massive amounts of gold, estimated at close to 150 tons, was also pushing other African and Middle Eastern governments to follow suit.

And it literally had the potential to bring down the dollar and the world monetary system by extension, according to analysts.

[...]

Aleister Granger
7th October 2013, 01:00
The U.S.A thrives off the suffering of other countries. It would be one thing if they went into the countries and at least cleaned up what they destroyed, but they have no plans of doing that anytime soon. I think one of the few countries that (considerably) fought off U.S. Imperialism would be Vietnam (which was backed by the Soviet Union I might add, thank goodness for that :hammersickle:).
The Soviet Union was quite guilty of its own imperialism.



About this time last year, we were swamped with reports of how Libya is turning into an entrepreneur hipster land.

Weird, I haven't heard anything detailing the mass genocide of hipsters. Did I miss the celebrations or something?

Agathor
7th October 2013, 18:40
And you would be more convincing if you weren't posting shit from an Islamophobic pro-Israel propaganda blog.

http://www.palpress.co.uk/arabic/?action=detail&id=20479

OIC, only people you agree with are allowed to post from dubious sources. Here's the source article then. But you can barely speak English so I doubt you can read Arabic.