I'm a corporate anarchist.

[UFO137]

Hello strangers.

I wear a tie to work, which is 9-5 , M-F. I travel 45minutes to and from my place of employment. I am the lead coordinator for Sales & Marketing. I make $65,000 a year with full benefits. I have a mortgage, 2 cars, 1 motorcycle, 2 dogs, and a nice green lawn that illegals maintain. I have 2 B.A 's in History & Sociology, Masters International Trade & Transport.

I keep my beliefs a secret for obvious reasons. I also secretly hope society fails so I can finally come out of the closet.

Firearms & survival gear are my only friends

Hello strangers.

[ВАЛТЕР]

Hello and welcome...

Well, Friedrich Engels owned a factory, but that didn't stop him from being one of the greatest revolutionary thinkers of our time.

[Vladimir Innit Lenin]

Seems legit..

[Aleister Granger]

If the revolution had more bourgeois allies, we might've gotten all that much more funding and wouldn't appear to be the joke we are now. Not that it's always such a good thing.

[Ethics Gradient, Traitor For All Ages]

gotta eat, oh well.

[argeiphontes]

That's OK, OP, I've worked in a trading firm before (as a sysadmin) and am currently taking steps to become petit bourgeois, because I hate to work for others and their enrichment. I just sacrifice part of what I've stolen ;)

[Sinister Intents]

Welcome! Enjoy your stay!

[RedBen]

Hello strangers.

I wear a tie to work, which is 9-5 , M-F. I travel 45minutes to and from my place of employment. I am the lead coordinator for Sales & Marketing. I make $65,000 a year with full benefits. I have a mortgage, 2 cars, 1 motorcycle, 2 dogs, and a nice green lawn that illegals maintain. I have 2 B.A 's in History & Sociology, Masters International Trade & Transport.

I keep my beliefs a secret for obvious reasons. I also secretly hope society fails so I can finally come out of the closet.

Firearms & survival gear are my only friends

Hello strangers.
i suppose you pay them well?

[Yuppie Grinder]

Hello strangers.

I wear a tie to work, which is 9-5 , M-F. I travel 45minutes to and from my place of employment. I am the lead coordinator for Sales & Marketing. I make $65,000 a year with full benefits. I have a mortgage, 2 cars, 1 motorcycle, 2 dogs, and a nice green lawn that illegals maintain. I have 2 B.A 's in History & Sociology, Masters International Trade & Transport.

I keep my beliefs a secret for obvious reasons. I also secretly hope society fails so I can finally come out of the closet.

Firearms & survival gear are my only friends

Hello strangers.

damn bruh yr really stuntin i'm impressed wow huh neat

[Q]

Welcome :)

If you have political questions, you can ask them in the Learning forum. That's why it's there after all!

If you have questions about your account, don't hesitate to send me a PM or ask her.

So, about your 'closet anarchism', that just confuses me somewhat. I mean, anarchists in general try to work towards some form of alternative culture, self-organisation, etc. What made you a 'closet' in the first place? And is your plan to simply wait for things to fall over?

[Blake's Baby]

I'd be more worried that 'firearms and survival gear are my only friends' than the fact you have a fairly well-paid management job.

Make some friends. Be sociable. Stop talking to you 'weapon' as you stroke it. It'll make you a better person.

[Aleister Granger]

There should be a quiet rule added "All considered bourgeoisie must pay higher donations" :laugh:

[RedBen]

There should be a quiet rule added "All considered bourgeoisie must pay higher donations" :laugh:
immediately going in my sig!!!

[UFO137]

Thank you everyone for the welcome to your community here.

Responding to Ben & Blake:

I don't pay the poor souls directly. Their lawn-care overseer collects the payment, which I'm sure he retains the majority of. I do provide them some food, beverages, and sometimes get out there to help out.

I am quite sociable, or else I would not have survived in the corporate arena. It is all about knowing whose ass to kiss and opportunistic friendships. Networking is key, being cordial and always smiling helps. But they are not friends.

A friend is someone who I would trust with my life, and my only friends, 3, are the ones I grew up with. 1 died by suicide - I blame societal pressure. 2 died serving this "Great" Nation a few years ago

And, incase it is necessary to say, I don't talk to my gun. However, I do stroke it. Necessary when cleaning

[argeiphontes]

There should be a quiet rule added "All considered bourgeoisie must pay higher donations" :laugh:

More than zero? Done.

[Eleutheromaniac]

Welcome! I'm in a relatively similar boat. Cheers to you for acknowledging the ills of today's society.

[UFO137]

Welcome :)


So, about your 'closet anarchism', that just confuses me somewhat. I mean, anarchists in general try to work towards some form of alternative culture, self-organisation, etc. What made you a 'closet' in the first place? And is your plan to simply wait for things to fall over?

Sorry I missed responding to your comment in the above post, thank you for asking.

I am a very private person, I keep my politics to myself. When people at work or, say a bar/restaurant, begin espousing their deluded beliefs, I'll just listen and maybe offer a responding question or observation to contradict. I don't start trying to argue a point because I feel that it would make people think I am an extremist (which I am), crazy, paranoid, or simply just that something is wrong with me. I have a reputation to maintain and at this point in my life, I'm not ready to rock the boat, per se.

I consider myself an anarchist, but if this qualification requires me to self-organize or be pro-active, then maybe I am not by mainstream standards.

And yes, my plan is to just simply wait for things to fall over. I don't think I alone, or the people in any relatively insignificant amount, can do anything about to be a causal effect in toppling the current world system. It will have to be an implosion, natural disaster, or something else on a global scale.

I'm always up for suggestions though. If I sense that my individual contribution at a certain moment can further the anarchist cause, I will seize it willingly.

Best Regards

[Blake's Baby]

...
Responding to ... Blake:

I am quite sociable, or else I would not have survived in the corporate arena. It is all about knowing whose ass to kiss and opportunistic friendships. Networking is key, being cordial and always smiling helps. But they are not friends.

A friend is someone who I would trust with my life, and my only friends, 3, are the ones I grew up with. 1 died by suicide - I blame societal pressure. 2 died serving this "Great" Nation a few years ago
...

You are sociable, but you don't have any friends. You kiss ass, and your friends are dead.

I'm sorry that one of the people you consider a true friend killed him/herself, and that the other two died in military service (if that's what you mean).

However, this brings me back to my original point. You do not have any friends. Why do you think I mean 'kiss ass and have your ass kissed'? I really recommend that you try to make some friends. People whose company you enjoy and who enjoy yours. Not people you are 'networking' with (ie using, or who are using you, or both). People you genuinely think are an end in their own right not just a means to an end.

Humans are social animals. It is other people who make us who we are. Find some other people to share your life with before you forget what it's like to be a human being.

[Comrade Jacob]

Welcome! We all need to live I guess...on 65K...
Do you do charitable things with that heap?

[Paul Pott]

Nothing wrong with that. Had you lived in Marx's and Engels' time, you could have been in the commie country club...

[#FF0000]

Stop talking to you 'weapon' as you stroke it. It'll make you a better person.

that would make it so impersonal and awkward, though.

Welcome OP. How/when did you get into this anarchist business?

[UFO137]

You are sociable, but you don't have any friends. You kiss ass, and your friends are dead.

I'm sorry that one of the people you consider a true friend killed him/herself, and that the other two died in military service (if that's what you mean).

However, this brings me back to my original point. You do not have any friends. Why do you think I mean 'kiss ass and have your ass kissed'? I really recommend that you try to make some friends. People whose company you enjoy and who enjoy yours. Not people you are 'networking' with (ie using, or who are using you, or both). People you genuinely think are an end in their own right not just a means to an end.

Humans are social animals. It is other people who make us who we are. Find some other people to share your life with before you forget what it's like to be a human being.

Thank you for your concern. It is refreshing from a stranger. I just find it hard to make new friends, but I will keep my hopes up

I pay my fair share of taxes, with my "heap of cash" . I drive around with canned spaghetti and Capri-suns in my backseat which I hand out to the many homeless in my area. I tip 20 percent most times. My 2 dogs are from an animal rescue

How did. I become a self-described anarchist? It started with my studies in Sociology and then a long period of observation in disgust of what is going on around me and in the world. I can only conclude that it all has to come down before anything better come out of it

[Blake's Baby]

Thank you for your concern. It is refreshing from a stranger. I just find it hard to make new friends, but I will keep my hopes up...

Unfortunately, human solidarity seems to be in short supply. It shouldn't be surprising that strangers should be concerned for you. But our society is so fucked up that most people most of the time believe that other people are their enemies. I don't see it that way, and I think generally socialists don't.

But you don't have to see it as that if you don't want. It might be enlightened self-interest on my part. The more people are socialised rather than atomised, the better for the rest of us.

Yes, it can be very hard to make new friends. But I'd hazard you're less likely to make them reading 'Guns and Ammo' than in going trying to meet new people at a karaoke bar or salsa classes (or, you know any other social activity that allows you to interact with other human beings).

[Rusty Shackleford]

Hello strangers.

I wear a tie to work, which is 9-5 , M-F. I travel 45minutes to and from my place of employment. I am the lead coordinator for Sales & Marketing. I make $65,000 a year with full benefits. I have a mortgage, 2 cars, 1 motorcycle, 2 dogs, and a nice green lawn that illegals maintain. I have 2 B.A 's in History & Sociology, Masters International Trade & Transport.

I keep my beliefs a secret for obvious reasons. I also secretly hope society fails so I can finally come out of the closet.

Firearms & survival gear are my only friends

Hello strangers.


and a nice green lawn that illegals maintain.



"ILLEGALS"


srsly? idgaf what you do for work, but you'be got to be a troll because of that. so much for 'anarchy.'


Also, in case people forgot, making a lot of money isnt the same as being bourgeois. being a manager isnt bourgeois, it just means you are a worker who is also a kapo.

[Popular Front of Judea]

Y'know you will find many more kindred spirits if you go to r/Anarcho_Capitalism and r/collapse. Just saying.

[UFO137]

"ILLEGALS"


srsly? idgaf what you do for work, but you'be got to be a troll because of that. so much for 'anarchy.'


Also, in case people forgot, making a lot of money isnt the same as being bourgeois. being a manager isnt bourgeois, it just means you are a worker who is also a kapo.

I am not one for being politically correct. I will call it how it is whatever I think, if you're a fat body, I will call you a fat ass if I feel the situation requires. If someone is an illegal alien, I call them an illegal. Your feelings are not my concern. It is not meant to be derogatory, unless you want it to be. I do not say it with malice. Feel how you want about, I care nothing about it. I would burn your leftist flag as fast as the US flag

Sensitive people are the worst kind, not saying you are.

[Petrol Bomb]

Well, you are in quite a boat there, and I can see why you choose not to reveal your politics.
Personally, I agree with Blake's Baby, when they say that you should get out there and make some friends, not just people who you are using/are using you for personal gain.
I've got that you are an Anarchist, and believe that a huge crisis must occur before socialism can be established, but can you tell us a bit more about your views?


Y'know you will find many more kindred spirits if you go to r/Anarcho_Capitalism and r/collapse. Just saying.

Oh dear, don't encourage him!

[The Garbage Disposal Unit]

I am not one for being politically correct. I will call it how it is whatever I think, if you're a fat body, I will call you a fat ass if I feel the situation requires. If someone is an illegal alien, I call them an illegal. Your feelings are not my concern. It is not meant to be derogatory, unless you want it to be. I do not say it with malice. Feel how you want about, I care nothing about it. I would burn your leftist flag as fast as the US flag

Sensitive people are the worst kind, not saying you are.

I don't think it's about "Sensitivity" - it's about international solidarity.
Ima give you the benefit of the doubt, and assume you're not a rabid defender of the border . . . so it raises the question, what makes the people in question illegal, and do you think it's legitimate? Assuming, again, that the answer is no, it would follow that there's got to be a better word (esp. given the derogatory connotations of "illegals"). I know what people here are generally into (often sans papiers) - but, really if you're an anarchist, you should have a serious conversation with them about anti-border and migrant struggles.

I don't want to denigrate what you do - giving out food, tipping well, etc. - but it's still fundamentally charity, not solidarity. Figuring out how to do solidarity when you're in a situation like your own is hella complicated, but it's the key to making sure you have a healthy comrades/guns life balance.

[Popular Front of Judea]

I've got that you are an Anarchist, and believe that a huge crisis must occur before socialism can be established

Hmm that's not my operating assumption here. I doubt it's socialism that he sees being established after societal collapse. I doubt he and Kropotkin say have much in common. Murray Rothbard? David Friedman? Much more likely.

[Rugged Collectivist]

Welcome! I'm almost certain you're a troll but if you aren't stick around because you seem okay.


I am not one for being politically correct. I will call it how it is whatever I think

Okay but be careful here because there's a fine line between "calling it how it is" and being a gigantic asshole. Political correctness can be absurd at times but you should stop and think about when those times are because a lot of what people call "political correctness" is valid.

[RedGuevara]

Welcome. If you're a troll then you'll be panned out eventually but if not then hopefully you'll contribute to this great community.

[Lowtech]

I make $65,000 a year

Thats not an accurate statement. You don't "make" anything that people can eat, shelter themsevles with etc. You produce no value. And how anarchist can you be, when you are a part of managment, who exist to ensure compliance?

However, what you certainly do is consume value. You're a capitalist by function.

[GPDP]

Take it from someone who doesn't have papers (other than the stop gap that is deferred action): the "illegal" comment bothers me not one bit. At least as far as I am concerned, the intent behind the term matters far more than the term itself. To me, words are just that, words. But I know I'm probably in the minority on this.

[UFO137]

I can appreciate the fine language used to define things here at this community. Maybe perhaps I SHOULD have used different terms, words, or technicalities. At any rate, my anarchist beliefs are only being confirmed. On both ends of the scale, there will be ones who claim the truth and hold it against the others.

Maybe I should have said, fellow humans instead of illegals. Maybe I should not have said "I make". For not using the technically correct jargon, for not doing more about solidarity, I am a troll? I am not a socialist, communist, or Marxist. I despise any form of govt. , and any "political activist" who wants to claim they know what's better for me. I am still living in the real world, with my own selfish interests at heart. I don't value any theory of any form, as appealing as some are to me. Call me all the names in the red handbook, fine with me. Sure I can be an asshole, albeit not my intention and depending on your perspective, so let me offer apologies to anyone offended. I despise racism, I treat every human equally, I might use some offensive language/words but it is to impart an understandable message that is important, no malice in my heart. This is partly the reason why I am silent about my beliefs. But hopefully some benefit comes of this discussion

All I know for sure is that whomever is the one still alive, gets to make the rules.
And again, duly noted I should make more friends. Maybe when the time comes, I will have plenty more friends

[UFO137]

An addendum to my above.

If anyone on this thread is not a hypocrite by their daily action to their words here, please identify yourself and explain.

I will give you my respect

[Danielle Ni Dhighe]

And yes, my plan is to just simply wait for things to fall over.
Because if society collapses, it will automatically turn into something better? :rolleyes:

[DROSL]

"and a nice green lawn that illegals maintain."

Greatest introduction ever... :laugh:

[Popular Front of Judea]

Because if society collapses, it will automatically turn into something better? :rolleyes:

Because the world can be turned right side up -- purged of collectivists and "those people" That's the dream of the survivalist right.

[Blake's Baby]

... For not using the technically correct jargon, for not doing more about solidarity, I am a troll?

No, I think the suspicion by some that you're a troll is more about the fear that you're pretending to be something you're not. However, my own view is that if you were a troll, you'd be more trollish. You'd be telling us we were wrong about this and that (which would undoubtedly be very badly researched).




... I am not a socialist, communist, or Marxist. I despise any form of govt...

Why do you think these two things go together? I'm a socialist, communist and Marxist (I was a socialist, communist and Anarchist for 20 years), and I despise any form of government too.

[Flying Purple People Eater]

"and a nice green lawn that illegals maintain."


I bet you're loving being able to use this as a weapon against them to dodge labour laws and OHS. I mean, they can't organise or fight back if you threaten them with deportation, right? Cannon fodder for your filthy southern serfdom.

Also, calling undocumented (mexican) migrant workers 'illegals' is 'rebelling against political correctness'? Next we'll be hearing that calling African Americans 'niggers' is doing the same. How is this political correctness? Substituting a factually accurate term for a politically charged phrase invented by the American nativist right-wing? I think the only person who is inserting political bias into their phraseology is you, pal.

[UFO137]

Well thank you everyone from saving me lots of wasted time here. It is amazing how monotonous and trite this thread has become.

I expected something else about me on this site, and I don't waste my efforts arguing people's fancy speculations. From what I gather with my limited time here, there is an acute lack of imagination and cognition

I would wish the leftist cause good luck, but with these sorts of amenities, my wish would be futile.

Good bye

[Q]

Well thank you everyone from saving me lots of wasted time here. It is amazing how monotonous and trite this thread has become.

I expected something else about me on this site, and I don't waste my efforts arguing people's fancy speculations. From what I gather with my limited time here, there is an acute lack of imagination and cognition

I would wish the leftist cause good luck, but with these sorts of amenities, my wish would be futile.

Good bye
Yes, we do have a lot of monotonous and trite individuals here and this site is governed on what I'd like to call "American liberal sensitivities" regarding the use of certain words.

That said, I wouldn't be so quick to disregard the site altogether. The community is lively and here and there there are some people that will discuss with you over content not over form (these latter discussions over form are indeed extremely tiresome, as I recently experienced on a discussion about what "socialism" means).

So I advise to stick around and engage with the people you want to engage with and basically ignore the rest.

[Thirsty Crow]

Thats not an accurate statement. You don't "make" anything that people can eat, shelter themsevles with etc. You produce no value. And how anarchist can you be, when you are a part of managment, who exist to ensure compliance?

However, what you certainly do is consume value. You're a capitalist by function.
It's far from impossible to uphold at least a passive kind of an acceptance of revolutionary politics while your own life practice and social position do not "correspond" to it, let's say.

And this bit about the passive acceptance of anarchism in particular ties in with the user's use of the term "illegal aliens". Now, I think this is a case of a bad troll attempt, but in the case it isn't, it should not come as a surprise that people do not question the root of such language use. The goal should be to engage in discussion, and not to sling mud, to act all incredulous etc. As if the views we all hold here are self-explanatory. They're not.

[#FF0000]

damn you guys are dumb

[Futility Personified]

Well, I hope you stick around, I expect you'll have an interesting take on things. If you do happen to be a troll then at least be amusing. Something that nags me about this site is that newcomers who don't seem to be completely ideologically pure really get a good pasting from some people...

[Q]

Something that nags me about this site is that newcomers who don't seem to be completely ideologically pure really get a good pasting from some people...
Interesting way of putting it. It's the 'purity' aspect we share with Stormfront, be it in a different way but with just as much zeal. Something to think about.

[#FF0000]

Frankly I think it's something that happens on every forum -- internet forum communities tend to be real exclusive and weird towards people trying to join in.

[Q]

Anyway, since the user has now requested a ban as he leaves this community in disgust, I'm closing this thread.

Closed.