Naxalites

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hello,

seeing as the Zapatistas started as a Maosty organisation , is it possible that the Naxalites may also undergo a similar transformation to a libertarian communist org?

[Stalinist Speaker]

no they will stay maoist. no reason for them to change, also maoism is very popular in asian.

[L.A.P.]

The Naxalites don't really have a coherent and set political ideology. They're really a militant group of the most deprived peasants fighting against foreign mining companies trying to build mines over their villages that just so happen to identify with "Maoism" because, like what has already been stated, Maoism is the choice ideology for militants in Asia





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[RedHal]

hello,

seeing as the Zapatistas started as a Maosty organisation , is it possible that the Naxalites may also undergo a similar transformation to a libertarian communist org?

why? So they can get the "all important" support from romantic middle class western lefties?

[RedHal]

The Naxalites don't really have a coherent and set political ideology. They're really a militant group of the most deprived peasants fighting against foreign mining companies trying to build mines over their villages that just so happen to identify with "Maoism" because, like what has already been stated, Maoism is the choice ideology for militants in Asia





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they should follow the recruiting strategy of Trotskyist groups, focus on middle class college students

[Red_Banner]

Why not stay Maoist?

[Hrafn]

hello,

seeing as the Zapatistas started as a Maosty organisation , is it possible that the Naxalites may also undergo a similar transformation to a libertarian communist org?

Given the various historical developments we've seen, I think it's safe to say that any organisation may become one thing or another, as can any popular movement. UNITA in Angola started out as Maoist-influenced and Chinese-trained socialists, and became pro-US anti-Communists, and so on, after all.

[Ethics Gradient, Traitor For All Ages]

Unfortunately they'll probably only remain Maoist until entry into electoral politics becomes a realistic alternative, like in Nepal. Then they'll split into a million factions

[Hermes]

why? So they can get the "all important" support from romantic middle class western lefties?

this is obv. the only difference between 'maoists' and 'libertarian communists' (not to mention it being so true and all)

[Os Cangaceiros]

In regards to the EZLN, I know Marcos came from a Maoist background, but were there others in the ranks or leadership who did?

[Ethics Gradient, Traitor For All Ages]

I think he and a small group fled to the countryside after their organization was killed off by the Mexican state with the intention of starting over using peasants. I'm not sure why they changed tactics, the pesants weren't interested in becoming urban guerrillas maybe.

[Sinister Cultural Marxist]

The Naxalites don't really have a "mechanism" to change their ideology because they're not a single movement. They're a loose affiliation of various Maoist peasant groups. If one group wanted to move more towards another ideological perspective, the others would all remain the same.


why? So they can get the "all important" support from romantic middle class western lefties?

Yeah, because that's totally why the EZLN moved away from strict Maoism ... :glare: it had nothing at all to do with the fact that the traditional Maoist model was rejected by the actual peasant base of the EZLN of course.

edit - also insofar as Zapatismo is more popular among "romantic middle class western lefties" perhaps that's because the EZLN aren't known for butchering everyone in a town because there was a snitch (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lucanamarca_massacre), or putting people through "struggle sessions" for any dumb thing deemed too "bourgeois" or because they said something not nice about Mao.


no they will stay maoist. no reason for them to change, also maoism is very popular in asian.

What? There are a few Maoist movements in Asia but it is a very large and incredibly diverse place. I also would hardly call it a "popular" ideology in most Asian countries.

[Hrafn]

From Wikipedia:


As a young man, Marcos was politically radicalized by the Tlatelolco massacre (2 October 1968) of students and civilians by the Mexican federal government; consequently, he became a militant in the Maoist National Liberation Forces. In 1983, he went to the mountains of Chiapas to convince the poor, indigenous Maya population to organize and launch a proletarian revolution against the Mexican bourgeoisie and the federal government. After hearing his proposition, the Chiapanecs "just stared at him", and replied that they were not urban workers, that, from their perspective, the land was not property, but the heart of the communities