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argeiphontes
1st October 2013, 17:17
Just for "sociological" reasons I was curious how many RevLefters fell into each of the "usual" age groups. Maybe there were other polls about this, but things change and the people on before may not have had the same demographics.

Thirsty Crow
1st October 2013, 17:20
Twenty six as of last Sunday.

argeiphontes
1st October 2013, 17:35
Happy Birthday, then :)

Fourth Internationalist
1st October 2013, 17:59
15. Teenagers are best. :)

Sinister Intents
1st October 2013, 18:03
21 on the eleventh at 8:52 AM :)

Red_Banner
1st October 2013, 18:35
24

Goblin
1st October 2013, 19:12
19. I turn 20 on November 21st (Same b-day as Alexander Berkman i believe).

argeiphontes
1st October 2013, 19:37
15. Teenagers are best. :)

Don't trust anyone over 30 ;)

Popular Front of Judea
1st October 2013, 19:41
Don't trust anyone over 30 ;)

Nonetheless thank them for bailing you out yet again.

blake 3:17
1st October 2013, 20:24
Too old to repay, young enough to sell.

Popular Front of Judea
1st October 2013, 21:16
So far the poll results indicate that the bulk of the members here have no living memory of the Soviet Union, the Cold War -- or an assertive working class. Then again they are not aware of the fact that their man Obama's domestic policies are to the right of Richard Nixon. No point in mourning what you never had, right?

Blake's Baby
1st October 2013, 21:43
21 on the eleventh at 8:52 AM :)

Is that GMT?

Sinister Intents
1st October 2013, 21:59
Is that GMT?

What's NY and PA?

adipocere
1st October 2013, 22:19
So far the poll results indicate that the bulk of the members here have no living memory of the Soviet Union, the Cold War -- or an assertive working class. Then again they are not aware of the fact that their man Obama's domestic policies are to the right of Richard Nixon. No point in mourning what you never had, right?
^
65+ http://www.revleft.com/vb/revleft/polls/bar2-l.gifhttp://www.revleft.com/vb/revleft/polls/bar2.gifhttp://www.revleft.com/vb/revleft/polls/bar2-r.gifhttp://www.revleft.com/vb/clear.gif 1 3.03%
:lol:

Hermes
1st October 2013, 22:59
Then again they are not aware of the fact that their man Obama's domestic policies are to the right of Richard Nixon. No point in mourning what you never had, right?

When you say "they" are you talking about the working class, or the majority of members of Revleft?

(I also can't tell whether you were trying to make a value statement or not re: the majority of members not seeing the USSR/cold war and "an assertive working class")

Blake's Baby
1st October 2013, 23:06
What's NY and PA?

Dunno. About six hours behind I think. So your 8.52 would be about 14.52, or thereabouts. Might depend on whether you're on Daylight Saving as well. It's 23.07 right now (and I should go to bed I've got work tomorrow) - if that's any help.

Popular Front of Judea
2nd October 2013, 04:13
^
65+ http://www.revleft.com/vb/revleft/polls/bar2-l.gifhttp://www.revleft.com/vb/revleft/polls/bar2.gifhttp://www.revleft.com/vb/revleft/polls/bar2-r.gifhttp://www.revleft.com/vb/clear.gif 1 3.03%
:lol:

Must have been a CPUSA member ...:rolleyes:

Danielle Ni Dhighe
2nd October 2013, 05:06
I'm 43. The rest of you can get off my lawn!

Art Vandelay
2nd October 2013, 06:23
I'm 21 as of today, woop; well technically yesterday since its 12:20 where I'm from. But this thread has come up in the past and I think its usually quite clear that the majority of the members are between 16-24 type region and male and white and usually from the 1st world ha, myself included. Which is one of the many reasons why, the majority of stuff posted on revleft should be taken with a grain of salt. Although there are certainly posters, including some of our best ones, who are older then that.

d3crypt
2nd October 2013, 07:06
15...

sixdollarchampagne
2nd October 2013, 07:38
65 and counting, ya young whippersnappers (sp?)

I remember the USSR, the Warsaw Pact, being a subscriber to Soviet Life magazine, an interesting monthly, with lots of pictures, etc., and also to Granma International (from Cuba), and the terrible, terrible US war against the Vietnamese. It is my impression that when the workers' states (whether deformed or degenerated) existed, imperialism had a lot less room to maneuver than it does now that those states are either nonexistent or in a process of speedy capitalist restoration. The only constant is change, I guess, but does the change always have to be for the worse? – Bummer and a half, yo!

adipocere
2nd October 2013, 07:47
65 and counting, ya young whippersnappers (sp?)

I remember the USSR, the Warsaw Pact, being a subscriber to Soviet Life magazine, an interesting monthly, with lots of pictures, etc., and also to Granma International (from Cuba), and the terrible, terrible US war against the Vietnamese. It is my impression that when the workers' states (whether deformed or degenerated) existed, imperialism had a lot less room to maneuver than it does now that those states are either nonexistent or in a process of speedy capitalist restoration. The only constant is change, I guess, but does the change always have to be for the worse? – Bummer and a half, yo!

I get Granma International in the mail. I bet it hasn't changed. :lol:

sixdollarchampagne
2nd October 2013, 08:10
I get Granma International in the mail. I bet it hasn't changed. :lol:

I am writing this very late at night, and in my household (there are a couple of us), I am the only person awake, and probably one of the very few people awake in our building. Anyway, Stalin just winked at me from the avatar picture of cde adipocere's contribution to the discussion about Granma International, and that wink freaked me out for a few minutes, when my blood ran ice cold (I thought I was hallucinating).

To return to the subject under discussion, one concrete thing I remember from Granma International has to do with Aníbal Escalante, who was a veteran Communist, indeed a founder of the Cuban Communist Party, IIRC. One of the very first issues of Granma International I got, had some Cuban intelligence pictures taken in Escalante's yard, where he hosted informal gatherings, apparently to discuss politics (this was around 1966, give or take) until he (Escalante) got repressed by the fidelista government, and such was the level of government surveillance of the Cuban population, that Fidel's police were able to take pictures of those gatherings surreptitiously. It would be interesting to know which state, the Republic of Cuba or the DDR ("East Germany") had the higher degree of surveillance over its civilian population. None of that has anything to do with socialism IMO; I am certain Escalante was no enemy of the conquests/accomplishments of the Cuban revolution.

RedBen
2nd October 2013, 08:12
25

Quail
2nd October 2013, 08:57
I'm 23. But I have a 3 and a half year old child, so I had to grow up.

adipocere
2nd October 2013, 09:12
I am writing this very late at night, and in my household (there are a couple of us), I am the only person awake, and probably one of the very few people awake in our building. Anyway, Stalin just winked at me from the avatar picture of cde adipocere's contribution to the discussion about Granma International, and that wink freaked me out for a few minutes, when my blood ran ice cold (I thought I was hallucinating).

First of all: :laugh:


To return to the subject under discussion, one concrete thing I remember from Granma International has to do with Aníbal Escalante, who was a veteran Communist, indeed a founder of the Cuban Communist Party, IIRC. One of the very first issues of Granma International I got, had some Cuban intelligence pictures taken in Escalante's yard, where he hosted informal gatherings, apparently to discuss politics (this was around 1966, give or take) until he (Escalante) got repressed by the fidelista government, and such was the level of government surveillance of the Cuban population, that Fidel's police were able to take pictures of those gatherings surreptitiously. It would be interesting to know which state, the Republic of Cuba or the DDR ("East Germany") had the higher degree of surveillance over its civilian population. None of that has anything to do with socialism IMO; I am certain Escalante was no enemy of the conquests/accomplishments of the Cuban revolution.
I found this article (http://campello.tripod.com/castro.html) that talks about the Escalante affair. It doesn't appear that he was an enemy per se...more that he was an ally of Moscow. I would imagine Fidel's paranoia (over Escalante) reflected American hysteria over the KGB, so in that regard surveillance was probably and ironically heavier in Cuba then by Stasi in E. Germany.
Anyway, my avatar can't actually see you.

Yuppie Grinder
2nd October 2013, 09:31
I'll be 18 later this month.

Snard
2nd October 2013, 15:17
15.

helot
2nd October 2013, 15:25
I'm 23. But I have a 3 and a half year old child, so I had to grow up.

That would make you atleast 27 :p







25 here.

Sperm-Doll Setsuna
2nd October 2013, 16:12
26 since almost a month ago. Fuck everything. Never going to 'grow up'.

ÑóẊîöʼn
3rd October 2013, 10:17
The funny thing is that a couple of days ago I wasn't sure whether I was 26 or 27, like it slipped my mind.

argeiphontes
3rd October 2013, 19:09
Sometimes I have to think about being 37, I can't believe I'm so old. And there's no stopping it!

Blake's Baby
3rd October 2013, 19:37
Yeah there is. You stop being 37 when you reach 38.

I had to examine the age ranges for a while before I remembered where I came.

Alan OldStudent
3rd October 2013, 19:58
I'm in my 70s. I was born during the Roosevelt administration, am old enough to remember the Chinese revolution, the creation of India and Israel, the death of Stalin, the McCarthy hearings, the Cuban revolution, the Berkeley Free Speech movement, Brown versus the Board of Education, the execution of the Rosenbergs and Caryl Chessman, the Korean and Vietnam wars, the invasion of Santo Domingo, the assassination of the Kennedy brothers, the Watts riots, the civil rights sit-ins, Martin Luther King, Malcolm X, the mass student strike of 1970, the general strike in Paris in 1968, the invasion of Hungary, Poland, and Czechoslovakia. I've seen a lot more history than described here.

I remember when a neighbor got the first television on the block, and she had all of us come over and look at it. The screen pointed to the ceiling and there was a mirror arranged so we all could sit in folding chairs in her living room, sipping tea. There were about 30 people there to see the flickering wonder. I remember when my mother finally was able to get an electric washing machine with a mangle. I also remember when we were finally able to get an electric refrigerator. When I was younger, not many had them where we lived, and most people used ice boxes. A computer was not a machine but a job description. Computers were people who worked in banks doing sums for bank statements sent out to customers.

They finally located my original long-for birth certificate. It was in a clay jar in the desert next to some other jars that contained parts of the Dead Sea scrolls.
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It's great to see how many young folks there are out there. Although I'm old, my ideas are the ideas of tomorrow. Most of you are tomorrow. If I've learned anything in my life, it is the importance of listening to each other. None of us has the whole truth. We can often learn more from those who see things differently than from those who think just like us. We don't all think alike. To be truly broad, we need to have empathy. We need to let our empathy fuel our passion against capitalism and for the exploited.

Education, self education, and rational thinking are revolutionary acts, and empathy is subversion of the established order.

Regards,

Alan OldStudent
The unexamined life is not worth living--Socrates

Popular Front of Judea
3rd October 2013, 20:04
Just wait until you have the peak experience of being unemployed in your 40s ... :crying:


Sometimes I have to think about being 37, I can't believe I'm so old. And there's no stopping it!

Trap Queen Voxxy
4th October 2013, 04:18
I'm timeless.

slum
4th October 2013, 04:24
i'm 24 but i too often forget my age and have to subtract my d.o.b. from the date... for some reason brain doesn't think it's important information

Ceallach_the_Witch
4th October 2013, 18:47
21 and in my final year of a BA in History

Bolshevik Sickle
4th October 2013, 20:07
18 but I've been leftist (more specifically a Marxist) since I was 14. I even wrote an essay on Vlad lenin when I was a freshman. Good times.

human strike
5th October 2013, 08:27
The last time I checked, I was 22.