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26th September 2013, 00:33
Dafuq?
http://politicalblindspot.com/saudi-princess-gets-away-with-keeping-slaves-california-judge-drops-all-charges/
Saudi Princess Gets Away With Keeping Slaves California Judge Drops All Charges
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Meshael Alayban, a Sa`udi Princess, was just set free. Her charges of human trafficking and slavery were dropped. You see, Meshael Alayban is married to the Sa`udi `Arabian prince AbdulRahman bin Nasser bin `Abdul`Aziz al Sa`ud.
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Lets just call this guy ARBNBAAS, for short. Well, ARBNBAAS is the grandson of King `Abdullah of Sa`udi `Arabia. Marrying into the Sa`udi Royal Family apparently has privileges Privileges which include keeping slaves and human trafficking.
You see, ARBNBAASs grandfather is listed as Forbes seventh most powerful people (http://www.forbes.com/profile/abdullah-bin-abdul-aziz-al-saud/). You dont really think the United States is going to arrest a member of the international Oligarchy over something like enslaving someone do you? If you did, youd have been wrong.
Meshael was arrested and accused of keeping a Kenyan slave as a prisoner in her California home. In addition to this Kenyan woman who Meshael enslaved, police say that when they searched Alaybans home, they discovered four more women from the Philippines who were being kept as slaves. She argued that this wasnt slavery since she paid them $220 a week, for 16 hour work days, 7 days a week. That breaks down to not even $2 an hour. In other words, that fits the legal definition of slavery. As well, her accuser says that Alayban would not allow her to leave the house. $1 or no $1, thats slavery.
Meshael Alayban says, however, that the slavery wasnt bad because she let them use the pool and get on Facebook. You simply cant things this crazy up. Apparently her excuses sounded pretty good to the Santa Ana judge who set her free.
Meshael is very happy now that she is free to enslave more African women. But she didnt look so happy when she was first locked up
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But this was only a bump in the road for Meshael. She was quickly freed, and can now buy more African and Filipina women to enslave.
Watch the video and SPREAD THE WORD! This CANNOT be what is allowed to stand as justice in the United States these days. If we do not take a stand against SLAVERY then what will we take a stand against?
Flying Purple People Eater
26th September 2013, 00:42
Fucking pig!
Slavery is rampant throughout the oil kingdoms. IIRC over half of Qatar's population is unpaid workers and slaves from South-East Asia, Africa and India - emirati make up a minority. This is fucking paramount example of the American double standards; fight for 'democracy' in Syria and Afghanistan against 'islamic terrorists', yet are perfectly okay with and will even excuse the filth that is the numerous ultra-islamist, neo-confed, slave-owning, decadent Arabian royalties. Now that, is a demographic where Jacobin red terror would be completely fucking justified, in my opinion.
God this makes me fucking pissed. Utter sell-outs, the lot of them.
d3crypt
26th September 2013, 00:46
I say we publicly execute all slave owners! Death to this dreadful person!
cliffhanger
26th September 2013, 00:47
I'm not going to hate on this Arab woman. She's living the dream. So she has a few slaves, as if every other rich person in America doesn't have a live-in undocumented immigrant or two. We'll just note down her name and make her clean communal apartments after the revolution.
Flying Purple People Eater
26th September 2013, 01:25
I'm not going to hate on this Arab woman. She's living the dream. So she has a few slaves, as if every other rich person in America doesn't have a live-in undocumented immigrant or two. We'll just note down her name and make her clean communal apartments after the revolution.
I hope this is a fucking joke.
How about we ship you to Qatar and have you serve as a fucking dollar-an-hour bound serf to privileged, repulsive royal filth like this? How about you slave away on the fat Sheikhs' buildings for them, before retreating back to a guarded prison on the outskirts of an emirate city where you shit where you sleep? Don't worry, retirement is slow and painful; once you're of no use, they'll just throw you off the building or put cement over you. Saves time building the walls. I mean, are you seriously apologising for this fucking bourgie slave-owning pigdog, rather than the fucking SLAVES? What kind of fucking leftist are you!?
I for one, do hate on this Sheikh defended, islamist, rich-ass sultaness, because she's a fucking monster - 'being arab' does not come into the fucking equation. If there ever comes a slave revolt in Arabia, it's dogs like this who I hope are the first to go under the fucking chopper. Fuck your apologism of the Saudi oil barons.
cliffhanger
26th September 2013, 01:38
How about we ship you to Qatar and have you serve as a fucking dollar-an-hour bound serf to privileged, repulsive royal filth like this?$1/hour is more than most people in the world earn actually. I don't think this is a big story. Par for the course, really. There's a hint of racism and sexism about the story to me, I must say.
Rafiq
26th September 2013, 01:46
$1/hour is more than most people in the world earn actually. I don't think this is a big story. Par for the course, really. There's a hint of racism and sexism about the story to me, I must say.
I suppose American workers should be content with 8 bucks an hour, after all it is much more than most people make in the world. We are talking about this within the context of a country with a history of a powerful labor movement that has set standards from which the state apparatus must be ridiculed for going under. Enough of your rampant orientalism. This women is a reactionary. The revolution is boundless in it's war against reactionaries, arab or not. Not to mention the Saudi royalty has always been despised by the lower classes in the arab world, they were, before Iran the only existing symbols of reactionary power in the middle east.
Futility Personified
26th September 2013, 01:52
Don't feed the trolls.... Really the important lesson here is bourgeois law is flexible to "market necessity" and realpolitik beyond satire. Didn't know they were so keen on slave labour in Qatar though. Abhorrent.
cliffhanger
26th September 2013, 01:55
I suppose American workers should be content with 8 bucks an hour, after all it is much more than most people make in the world.Well, let me consider your offer. Let's say that you're proposing the average person in the world (since, as socialists, we're egalitarians) would be earning $8/hour. Let's say they work 1500 hours a year, with a lot of fudging to make this easy to calculate. That'd be a global GDP/capita of about $12,000. Current global GDP per capita is about $10,000, with a resource usage intensity which is not compatible with sustainability. So technically we should probably be aiming for a smaller world GDP per capita in some senses. But let's say we could make $12,000/year feasible.
Yes, I think your offer is fair. Americans should be content with about $12,000 a year. To say otherwise is either cornucopian or to say that white people deserve more.
Popular Front of Judea
26th September 2013, 02:00
Here's the AP copy on the story. Come to your own conclusions:
http://www.theguardian.com/law/2013/sep/20/trafficking-slavery-california-saudi-princess/print
Sperm-Doll Setsuna
26th September 2013, 02:00
Well, let me consider your offer. Let's say that you're proposing the average person in the world (since, as socialists, we're egalitarians) would be earning $8/hour. Let's say they work 1500 hours a year, with a lot of fudging to make this easy to calculate. That'd be a global GDP/capita of about $12,000. Current global GDP per capita is about $10,000, with a resource usage intensity which is not compatible with sustainability. So technically we should probably be aiming for a smaller world GDP per capita in some senses. But let's say we could make $12,000/year feasible.
Yes, I think your offer is fair. Americans should be content with about $12,000 a year. To say otherwise is either cornucopian or to say that white people deserve more.
Deserve, schmerserve, bollocks the lot of it. You can argue all you like about who deserves a certain amount of currency, but it's all merely numbers that depend on contexts. Were you the one that suggested that Cubans getting paid $20 was pretty good, or was that someone else? Either way, there won't be any GDP when there's no fucking currency, which is what we aim for.
cliffhanger
26th September 2013, 02:19
Deserve, schmerserve, bollocks the lot of it. You can argue all you like about who deserves a certain amount of currency, but it's all merely numbers that depend on contexts. Were you the one that suggested that Cubans getting paid $20 was pretty good, or was that someone else? Either way, there won't be any GDP when there's no fucking currency, which is what we aim for.Well, you're right, individuals don't "deserve" certain consumption bundles, the aim is to meet human needs. In such a case, a disabled person will "deserve" to consume more resources than an able-bodied person, for example, although maybe it won't be calculated like that. The point, though, is that aggregate American levels of consumption are unfair and unsustainable. Of course, that's not to say they won't benefit from socialism, or aren't potentially revolutionary, since a quiet comfortable life at a lower level of consumption, in a fair society where everyone is guaranteed employment and necessities, is surely better than the horrible condition the average poor person in America faces. So, yes, GDP is a crude measure, but it does work as a stand-in for a broader questions.
Remus Bleys
26th September 2013, 02:30
Why was she wearing a hijab for the trial, but not in the bottom picture?
cliffhanger
26th September 2013, 02:32
Why was she wearing a hijab for the trial, but not in the bottom picture?She probably wanted to be respectful in court. The bottom picture looks like an arrest picture, so maybe she wasn't wearing hijab at home when they arrested her, or they took it off.
Rafiq
26th September 2013, 03:18
Cliffhanger is an apologist for bourgeois social relations, where a "fair society" prerequisites conditions which are only necessary for their dictatorship to be sustained. The proletariat must descend ruthlessly in capitalism upon all who deprive them anything lower than the product of their labor. Let us scorch the entire Earth and set the world to ruin before we submit ourselves to these moralists and "moderates".
tachosomoza
26th September 2013, 03:25
Yes, I think your offer is fair. Americans should be content with about $12,000 a year. To say otherwise is either cornucopian or to say that white people deserve more.
Die in a fire, class collaborationist shitbird. You can't wipe your ass with $12,000 a year.
cliffhanger
26th September 2013, 03:26
Cliffhanger is an apologist for bourgeois social relations, where a "fair society" prerequisites conditions which are only necessary for their dictatorship to be sustained. The proletariat must descend ruthlessly in capitalism upon all who deprive them anything lower than the product of their labor. Let us scorch the entire Earth and set the world to ruin before we submit ourselves to these moralists and "moderates".The point of socialism is not to create a "fair society" in itself so much as abolish class and build communism, I agree with you completely. But when given the choice between raising the standard of living for the masses of the poor, or to add even more consumption to the West (in aggregate), surely we must side against white supremacy? The idea that there is no struggle here, that a rising tide lifts all boats, is simply neoliberalism. It's Deng's slogan: "Some will get rich first!"
Rafiq
26th September 2013, 03:27
The mouthpiece of the first world bourgeoisie he is, he demands that instead of third world workers organizing and engaging in class struggle to improve their lives, as the "white people" did, he insists that American workers throw away their gains for the sake of "fairness". This benefits the international bourgeoisie, in America, and in the Third World, where they ought not worry about workers demanding more rights and so on.
cliffhanger
26th September 2013, 03:30
Die in a fire class collaborationist shitbird. If you live in a large city you can't wipe your ass with $12,000 a year.How do you think the billions of people living on much less feel? Are you going to make the average person in Africa live off $40,000 a year or something while somehow dramatically shrinking the destructive impact on the environment? My choice is with the poor workers of the world. If you have some sort of alternative solution to this problem that circles the square then I wish you luck.
Popular Front of Judea
26th September 2013, 03:30
If the Princess was indeed holding the passports then the servants were working in indentured servitude. It doesn't matter how much they were paid, what perks they had or whether they were unescorted during their shopping trips.
cliffhanger
26th September 2013, 03:33
The mouthpiece of the first world bourgeoisie he is, he demands that instead of third world workers organizing and engaging in class struggle to improve their lives, as the "white people" did, he insists that American workers throw away their gains for the sake of "fairness". This benefits the international bourgeoisie, in America, and in the Third World, where they ought not worry about workers demanding more rights and so on.
White people are not really better off because they have stronger unions or something, they are better off because of the history of imperialism, colonialism, slavery, etc. That history has to be recognized and it has to be part of our strategy to overcome capitalism. Otherwise we become apologists for imperialism. We also set a strategy for poor people to emulate the imperialism of the West if they want to become rich, which is a false strategy, because they have only themselves to exploit.
cliffhanger
26th September 2013, 03:50
Just to be clear, Americans don't "deserve" to be "poor" or something like that. The entire character of consumption would change such that Americans would be able to live comfortably in reasonable sized apartments, with communal kitchens serving good food, working at good factory jobs or whatever, and so on. But a large section of American society currently owns private houses, drives private automobiles, consumes a lot, etc. That is not sustainable or consistent with remunerating labour based on contribution, and especially not need. Unless you think that a white person working in a factory should receive a multiple of the compensation of a Chinese person working in a factory, or something like that.
Popular Front of Judea
26th September 2013, 03:54
Arguably true. So WTF does this have to do with indentured servitude?
Just to be clear, Americans don't "deserve" to be "poor" or something like that. The entire character of consumption would change such that Americans would be able to live comfortably in reasonable sized apartments, with communal kitchens serving good food, working at good factory jobs or whatever, and so on. But a large section of American society currently owns private houses, drives private automobiles, consumes a lot, etc. That is not sustainable or consistent with remunerating labour based on contribution, and especially not need. Unless you think that a white person working in a factory should receive a multiple of the compensation of a Chinese person working in a factory, or something like that.
cliffhanger
26th September 2013, 04:00
Arguably true. So WTF does this have to do with indentured servitude?Multiple people cast aspersions on my character after I pointed out that they didn't seem to understand the actual conditions of workers in most of the world. I will end the derail here if no one insults me again. Also, to be clear, this Arab woman shouldn't have oppressed her workers in a similar but somewhat more brutal way than most rich white people in America.
tachosomoza
26th September 2013, 04:04
Multiple people cast aspersions on my character after I pointed out that they didn't seem to understand the actual conditions of workers in most of the world. I will end the derail here if no one insults me again. Also, to be clear, this Arab woman shouldn't have oppressed her workers in a similar but somewhat more brutal way than most rich white people in America.
You make less sense with every post.
Rafiq
26th September 2013, 20:40
White people are not really better off because they have stronger unions or something, they are better off because of the history of imperialism, colonialism, slavery, etc. That history has to be recognized and it has to be part of our strategy to overcome capitalism. Otherwise we become apologists for imperialism. We also set a strategy for poor people to emulate the imperialism of the West if they want to become rich, which is a false strategy, because they have only themselves to exploit.
You don't understand the function of imperialism. Only the international bourgeoisie benefits from Imperialism. It's like you're espousing some bullshit, mutated form of Reaganomics where the poor benefit from the wealthy acquiring more wealth. The United Kingdom has always had a brutal history of imperialism and colonialism, but tell me, why did the lives of the proletariat only improve after they started to organize?
cliffhanger
26th September 2013, 20:45
You don't understand the function of imperialism. Only the international bourgeoisie benefits from Imperialism.The median full-time white worker in the US earns $40,000 or so a year. You're saying they earn that because they work hard and organize, while 3 billion or so people live off $2 a day or less because they haven't bothered to picket once in a while? That seems racist to me.
Sperm-Doll Setsuna
26th September 2013, 20:51
The median full-time white worker in the US earns $40,000 or so a year. You're saying they earn that because they work hard and organize, while 3 billion or so people live off $2 a day or less because they haven't bothered to picket once in a while? That seems racist to me.
Reading comprehension and understanding-level that you posses, I am sorry to say, is sub-zero (the logic of that, I will leave for you to work out). Apart from the obvious problems such as cost of living not being the same, wages cannot be compared on a global scale arbitrarily (indeed, they cannot even easily be calculated without several great leaps of faith). So, you, rather than fight the injustice of this and, free from capitalism, the world to develop well, with wealth (and I do not mean monetary such, no) for all, rather you would enforce some kind of warped arseterity to bring down the level. Great fucking idea. Idiotic.
Now stop swamping this thread with your imbecilic drivel, please. Off-topic as fuck, in addition to being impossibly daft.
cliffhanger
26th September 2013, 20:56
Now stop swamping this thread with your imbecilic drivel, please. Off-topic as fuck, in addition to being impossibly daft.Sure. Thanks for your reply.
goalkeeper
26th September 2013, 21:16
Well, let me consider your offer. Let's say that you're proposing the average person in the world (since, as socialists, we're egalitarians) would be earning $8/hour. Let's say they work 1500 hours a year, with a lot of fudging to make this easy to calculate. That'd be a global GDP/capita of about $12,000. Current global GDP per capita is about $10,000, with a resource usage intensity which is not compatible with sustainability. So technically we should probably be aiming for a smaller world GDP per capita in some senses. But let's say we could make $12,000/year feasible.
Yes, I think your offer is fair. Americans should be content with about $12,000 a year. To say otherwise is either cornucopian or to say that white people deserve more.
Maybe no one ever told you this but communism isn't just about sharing out GDP per capita and declaring the task finished. I see you are a Marxist-Leninist; even Stalinism aimed for better than that!
Remember when Sylvia Pankhurt said: "Socialism means plenty for all. We do not preach a gospel of want and scarcity, but of abundance. Our desire is not to make poor those who to-day are rich, in order to put the poor in the place where the rich now are. Our desire is not to pull down the present rulers to put other rulers in their places. We wish to abolish poverty and to provide abundance for all.We do not call for limitation of births, for penurious thrift, and self-denial. We call for a great production that will supply all, and more than all the people can consume."
Or when Rose Schneiderman spoke of both bread and roses?
Vladimir Innit Lenin
26th September 2013, 21:56
presumably cliffhanger is tying this from some hotbed of activity in rural africa....or from the apple mac his parents bought him from that store in california.
Whatever it is, cliffhanger has shown themselves to be a disgraceful, illogical, anti-human 'thing', who deserves nothing more than the contempt of anybody who has to slave away for a few thousand quid per year. Shithead. Fucking shithead.
Comrade Jacob
26th September 2013, 22:01
Vile ****! I'm sure the USA really gives a fuck don't they. "Hugo Chavez died? An evil ,torturous, dictator!"
An actual evil torturous dictatorship, "give us some oil mates".
Sorry for bringing the US into this but I just had to point out the hypocrisy yet again. Not surprising at all sadly.
erupt
26th September 2013, 23:36
What is with this fetish on here of users being as harsh as possible on world religions and nationalism, except for Islam and Arab nationalism?
Is it because nations with a majority of Arab ethnicity or of Islamic religion suffer from neo-colonialism and imperialism, especially as of late?
We should support the struggle against imperialism while still maintaining nationalism and religion (organized on the basis of a state), regardless of origin, is negative as far as liberating the oppressed classes.
To suffice, this woman's high social standing and religious outlook had to of influenced her socio-economic outlook; thus, we, as Leftists of all types, must oppose this type of behavior, regardless if the oppressed is technically a slave, indentured servant, or wage-slave, since they are still oppressed.
RadioRaheem84
27th September 2013, 04:14
If the Princess was indeed holding the passports then the servants were working in indentured servitude. It doesn't matter how much they were paid, what perks they had or whether they were unescorted during their shopping trips.
I just wonder what the defenses story was in this case. Surely, the courts are not this preposterous to let this lady off scott free. :confused:
synthesis
27th September 2013, 05:09
How do you think the billions of people living on much less feel?
Probably that they'd like to live as well as we do.
synthesis
27th September 2013, 05:18
God, it figures that the DA didn't even give a shit about this case, the absence of a shit given being such that he just dropped all the charges. When the defendant's lawyer thanks the DA for "being a man of integrity," that's when you know the defendant is ruling class.
Popular Front of Judea
27th September 2013, 05:52
God, it figures that the DA didn't even give a shit about this case, the absence of a shit given being such that he just dropped all the charges. When the defendant's lawyer thanks the DA for "being a man of integrity," that's when you know the defendant is ruling class.
I can't help but wonder if pressure from above was applied. Rather obvious that the prosecution was just going through the motions.
synthesis
27th September 2013, 06:00
I can't help but wonder if pressure from above was applied. Rather obvious that the prosecution was just going through the motions.
It's possible, although I kind of think this might be one of those cases where pressure doesn't even need to be applied - district attorneys mostly being so embedded in the system that they don't actually have to be coached on how to represent the ruling class.
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