Venezuela's Chavez Says U.S. Seeking His Overthrow

[el_profe]

http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=stor...ezuela_usa_dc_2 (http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&u=/nm/20040111/pl_nm/venezuela_usa_dc_2)

HAHAHA, this guy is insane, he said the USa wants to kill him, haha. What was even better was to see some of the reaction on the news wire seciton from some commies "oh no, if they do this, we need to protest" :blink:

I dont know if everyone missed out on this:
"Venezuelan opposition leaders say they have collected just over 3.6 million votes calling for a referendum on President Hugo Chavez"
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/americas/3258200.stm

The official count of the votes has yet to be completed and the date that they will have an official announcement on Februrary 13 to see if elections will be held. International observatns from europe (and other countries) watched the signature collecting process and even though some thugs "circulos bolivarianos"(sponsored by the gov) tried and sometimes succeded in violently disrupting the signature collecting process, 3.6 million votes where still collected when they only needed 2.4 signatures.

Of course chavez says this is fraud and all that crap, but its not, the press, observants where all there to see the millions of people in the different placess collecting signatures. Chavez is desperate to keep power but he knows he will lose. unless the one-party gov. can interfere in the counting process.

[Pete]

They've already tried and failed. He has good reason, US supports his enemies who tried to oust him with an armed coup, strike of the managers/officers/ect (which failed as the people went to work anyways), and now a referendum. The numbers given by the opposition are just as likely to be true as the 1.2mill Chavez claims to be the other sides count. It's probaly in the middle somewhere, your source is biased against him, the source I read weeks ago when this was 'breaking news' presented all the possible counts, suggesting that the real number was between 2.2 and 2.7 million, probaly on the low end. Gota love what happens with a media monopoly eh?

[Pete]

Oh ya, its not a one party government, I suggest you read up on Venezuala before making such ridiculously false claims.


seats by party - pro-government 108 (MVR 92, MAS 6, indigenous 3, other 7), opposition 57 (AD 33, COPEI 6, Justice First 5, other 13)
elections: last held 30 July 2000 (next to be held NA 2005) CIA Factbook (http://www.cia.gov/cia/publications/factbook/geos/ve.html)

[Urban Rubble]

HAHAHA, this guy is insane, he said the USa wants to kill him, haha. What was even better was to see some of the reaction on the news wire seciton from some commies "oh no, if they do this, we need to protest"

Are you really this stupid ? Do you not realize how many times we have killed leftist leaders ? Actually, fuck the leftist part, we've killed a few who weren't leftists.

We've tried to kill Castro many times.
We killed General Shneider in Chile because he wouldn't help oust Allende.
We killed Allende afterwards.
We killed Trujillo, not that he was a nice guy.

There are more, need I list them ?

[Pete]

I just read your post again, it is complete trash. Boliviarano Circles are direct democratic 'circles' sort of like the Town Councils were in small towns 19th Century America. You show him as desperate because he knows he will lose, but how many people does Venezuela have? 10 million. A third or so, at best, is directly against him. He has reinstalled by popular demonstrations after the Opposition failed to oust him in a military coup. The observationists did not support the Opposition to the best of my knowledge. They pitched something like the figure I suggested. Are you an idiot?

I suggest you learn about the situation you are talking about before making such moronic posts.

[el_profe]

Originally posted by [email protected] 15 2004, 06:21 AM
Oh ya, its not a one party government, I suggest you read up on Venezuala before making such ridiculously false claims.


seats by party - pro-government 108 (MVR 92, MAS 6, indigenous 3, other 7), opposition 57 (AD 33, COPEI 6, Justice First 5, other 13)
elections: last held 30 July 2000 (next to be held NA 2005) CIA Factbook (http://www.cia.gov/cia/publications/factbook/geos/ve.html)
No, he has almost complete power to do what he wants and he got this power through approvals thorugh congress.

[el_profe]

Originally posted by [email protected] 15 2004, 06:19 AM
They've already tried and failed. He has good reason, US supports his enemies who tried to oust him with an armed coup, strike of the managers/officers/ect (which failed as the people went to work anyways), and now a referendum. The numbers given by the opposition are just as likely to be true as the 1.2mill Chavez claims to be the other sides count. It's probaly in the middle somewhere, your source is biased against him, the source I read weeks ago when this was 'breaking news' presented all the possible counts, suggesting that the real number was between 2.2 and 2.7 million, probaly on the low end. Gota love what happens with a media monopoly eh?
You dont get a 2 month strike from millions of people if you have only the managers strking?
also those numbers where reported by everyone, so BBC is biased? i also gave a venezuelan news source on another topic, why would they lie and if they would lie, Chavez would of tried to say somehthing.

Chavez did not deny that their 3.6 million signatures, he said that some(actually he said alot of that) of those signatures where fake, and that their was fraud, anyway we will know on feburary 13.

[SonofRage]

Anyone who wants a complete picture of what is going on over there should check out these articles

http://en2.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hugo_Chavez
http://en2.wikipedia.org/wiki/Politics_of_Venezuela

[RedAnarchist]

Only a weakling kills his enemies.

America, you are weak! Allow those who do not serve you to have their own voice heard!

[Bolshevika]

The United States and CIA backed and plotted an illegal coup attempted by the Venezuelan anti-democracy fascists, sort of like an internal version of the Bay of pigs.

If I were Chavez, I would've thrown all these vermin to Miami, along with the Cuban vermin, they should get along with eachother.

I think there are a lot more than 3 million people in this country who want Bush out, however, who is giving us a chance to recall Bush? So when does the election stealer George W. Bush, whose only interest in Venezuela is oil, have a say in the politics of Venezuela?

I'd like to see the yankees invade Venezuela again, and be destroyed by the Bolivarianos. Latin America is standing up to the imperialist bully and the USA can do nothing about it since Chavez has the yankees by the balls with Venezuelan oil.

Viva Bolivar!

[Pete]

El Profe, he claims that the number of real signatures is lower so there fore the rest must be falsified some how.

He is just as much a dictator as George W. Bush. He has popular support, have you ever noticed that the proChavez demonstrations are so much bigger and not only in Caracaz? Strange eh?

You don't know what you are talking about, your drivel proves it more and more. Please educate yourself, then come back and we can talk. Until then stop making an ass of oyurself.

[Misodoctakleidist]

BBC is biased?

errrr...yes. It's owned by the british government hence the name.


i also gave a venezuelan news source on another topic, why would they lie and if they would lie

I wonder why a media company owned by a bougoire would be baised against a left wing politician, i just can't figure it out.