Scabs vs Moles

[Remus Bleys]

Who are the bigger class traitors, moles (who report Union activities to the boss) or scabs (who work for little pay during a strike)?

[Comrade Jacob]

Really? :laugh: This is what you needed my help for?
Moles.

EDIT:
Oh right this is a legitimate political question, I just assumed it was something literal.

[Trap Queen Voxxy]

Obviously moles but I would be inclined to say both, really. Both should get beat.

[Quail]

Moles, but scabs are pretty bad too. Both are actively undermining industrial action.

[Red_Banner]

Scabs don't always intentionally do this.

They just look at is as "another job".

They aren't class consious and I am guessing are often drawn form the lumpenproletariat.

[Remus Bleys]

Scabs don't always intentionally do this.

They just look at is as "another job".

They aren't class consious and I am guessing are often drawn form the lumpenproletariat.
Yeah. Weren't a majority of scabs immigrants that the Union wouldn't let in?

[Popular Front of Judea]

Where's the box for collaborationist union leadership?

[Remus Bleys]

Wheres the box for collaborationist union leadership?
You know, I shoulda thought about that.

You also have the collaborationist workers, though, who hate the radical union leaders.

[Igor]

scabbing i can understand out of genuine personal need or something even though it's still sort of a dick thing to do

moles are just scum

[Snard]

I somewhat agree with Igor. I mean, there are certain people who would die for their fellow workers (whom I respect very much). Then there are people who will stand by their peers, however they will still strive for minimal self-preservation. While I understand the latter, I still think it is a breach in solidarity.

And to answer the poll question: Moles.

[Thirsty Crow]

Where's the box for collaborationist union leadership?
They aren't traitors. Every union apparatus is necessarily collaborationist. It would be hard to remain a union boss and unionized workers would have a hard time if the company were forced to close.

Moles, that's the answer to OP.

[Creative Destruction]

Moles.

Scabs are in a sympathetic position for me. It's a shitty situation, but a lot of people are forced to deal with their material conditions -- including eating and housing themselves. I think effort should be put into organizing them rather than attacking them as a matter of course. Legislation should also be drawn up to ban companies from using scabs, like in Japan.

Moles, on the other hand, are in no such hardship-induced position. They're the worst kind of opportunists.

[Super international]

Er... I have no idea what this is doing in here:glare: But I'd have to say moles.

[Comrade Samuel]

Speaking as an ununiozed worker who has never participated in a strike muchless found myself dealing with either of these types of people I'd lean toward saying moles are worse- a scab would at least deserve empathy.

[Art Vandelay]

Surprised to see scabs get such empathy here. Both are class traitors, nuff said. Jack London was spot on when he said: "No man (or woman) has a right to scab so long as there is a pool of water to drown his carcass in, or a rope long enough to hang his body with."

[The Garbage Disposal Unit]

Yeah, I'm going to say moles. I've thrown punches with scabs, but I've never had that chance with a mole. That they do their damage without having to face any consequence seems to me particularly vile. I believe that maybe scabs can be rectified - that they might be won over, since their decision is often more a question of perceived (though shortsighted!) necessity, than the mole, who has made an ethical decision to side against the class.

There is a face I see in my head when I think about these things that I one day hope to see on the street. They won't see it coming, but when it does they will know exactly why. :mad:

[synthesis]

Scabs are still workers exploited for their surplus value; they just happen to be also fucking over the rest of the working class while being exploited, primarily by decreasing the value of labor as a commodity and thereby lessening the leverage of the working class. But at least they're open about it and (in theory) accountable for it. A mole is just a professional snitch.

[boiler]

Moles are the worst between the two, they are in the same category as touts and informers.