Sex Offender and Police Informant Attempts to Infiltrate Activist Community

[Popular Front of Judea]

Be careful out there:

Another activist emailed a profile of Robert Childs's arc in the activist scene to The Stranger. The behavior this activist alleges has many of the classic marks of undercover police/informants—they're ostentatiously helpful and kind of clueless, they propose escalating things from normal to criminal (or from a little criminal, such as marching without a permit, to a lot criminal), they have unexplained funds and personal history, they use supposed jail time and/or loathing for police to earn cred, and so on.

Convicted Sex Offender and Police Informant Attempts to Infiltrate Seattle's Activist Community | Seattle Stranger Blog (http://slog.thestranger.com/slog/archives/2013/09/10/convicted-sex-offender-and-police-informant-attempts-to-infiltrate-seattles-activist-community)

[Chop_Sugar_Cane_Dem]

Be careful out there:


Not all of the sex offenders who are convicted are actually guilty; Just like the corrupt courts overwhelmingly target black Afrikans for murder convictions, I have a feeling that white guys are victimized by the courts in this scenario, and a lot of false convictions make it through blind Lady Justice's hands.

[Popular Front of Judea]

Not all of the sex offenders who are convicted are actually guilty; Just like the corrupt courts overwhelmingly target black Afrikans for murder convictions, I have a feeling that white guys are victimized by the courts in this scenario, and a lot of false convictions make it through blind Lady Justice's hands.

Read the article and then come back with an opinion. (This includes the links.) This isn't Facebook.

[synthesis]

Not all of the sex offenders who are convicted are actually guilty; Just like the corrupt courts overwhelmingly target black Afrikans for murder convictions, I have a feeling that white guys are victimized by the courts in this scenario, and a lot of false convictions make it through blind Lady Justice's hands.

You're joking, right?

[Jimmie Higgins]

Being a rapist is just "color" to this putrid story. As much as that makes it easier to be morally outraged by him, it also wouldn't matter if he had been convicted of selling the best fucking weed at rock bottom prices to cancer patients... or strealing from banks to give to homeless people... the snitching and informing is the main point. 18 years in jail this guy caused some akward and apparently not totally stable person he set up. Fuck this guy.

[bcbm]

the saddest thing about snitches is how incredibly poorly equipped most groups of pro-revolutionaries and activists are to deal with them.

[blake 3:17]

Pretty much all of the snitches I've dealt with had been charged with a sex crime. In one case, it was way stupid, dude had picked up a pro and got charged during a crackdown, but it flipped him.



the saddest thing about snitches is how incredibly poorly equipped most groups of pro-revolutionaries and activists are to deal with them.

Gotta be smart about it. I always assume there's a police agent in any room I do any organizing in. I (and others) have found taking that step very useful in not getting crazy paranoid. A lot of bad stuff tends to go down when snitches are in -- ratting sure, but that's not the worst usually; also provocateurs; and friggin nutty sociopaths in your group.

I lived in an anarchist house and we had a firm No Dealing rule. Using was fine, as long as people weren't being idiots, but a few of us moved out, and dealers moved in... Bad scene.

Edited to add: This is a pretty interesting story for anyone interested in this problem: http://www.motherjones.com/politics/2011/08/brandon-darby-anarchist-fbi-terrorism

[bcbm]

Gotta be smart about it. I always assume there's a police agent in any room I do any organizing in. I (and others) have found taking that step very useful in not getting crazy paranoid. A lot of bad stuff tends to go down when snitches are in -- ratting sure, but that's not the worst usually; also provocateurs; and friggin nutty sociopaths in your group.

i have known people who have been burned by just being friendly. someone doesnt seem that down or doesnt express any ideas, but is very interested in action? watch out. they'll talk a lot about wanting to do something but can't explain why. but we let them get close because we feel so isolated. be careful

[Ethics Gradient, Traitor For All Ages]

Pretty much all of the snitches I've dealt with had been charged with a sex crime. In one case, it was way stupid, dude had picked up a pro and got charged during a crackdown, but it flipped him.




Gotta be smart about it. I always assume there's a police agent in any room I do any organizing in. I (and others) have found taking that step very useful in not getting crazy paranoid. A lot of bad stuff tends to go down when snitches are in -- ratting sure, but that's not the worst usually; also provocateurs; and friggin nutty sociopaths in your group.

I lived in an anarchist house and we had a firm No Dealing rule. Using was fine, as long as people weren't being idiots, but a few of us moved out, and dealers moved in... Bad scene.

Edited to add: This is a pretty interesting story for anyone interested in this problem: http://www.motherjones.com/politics/2011/08/brandon-darby-anarchist-fbi-terrorism


I had a really similar experience, that's weird. I had lived there long enough and left to try to get my life kinda back on track. I didn't do a good job of staying in touch while I was gone and then came back a few months later to find that a dealer had moved in and literally everyone else in the house was on heroin sold by him. fucking parasites.

[blake 3:17]

i have known people who have been burned by just being friendly. someone doesnt seem that down or doesnt express any ideas, but is very interested in action? watch out. they'll talk a lot about wanting to do something but can't explain why. but we let them get close because we feel so isolated. be careful

There's been around here like that. Or ones that go to EVERYTHING and it's a bit, hmmmm....

Here's a piece on the infiltration of protest groups in Southern Ontario: http://maisonneuve.org/article/2013/03/6/unmasked/