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andyx1205
7th September 2013, 00:58
I am quite surprised at Zizek for this.

http://www.marxist.com/zizek-apologist-for-remormism.htm


...although he tries to cover his positions with a left rhetoric, his basic position on Greece comes straight from the Stalinist tradition of Popular Frontism, even including the old idea of forming an alliance with a so-called “progressive”, or as he puts it “patriotic”, bourgeoisie, as will become clear from the quotes we provide later in this article. (...)

Zizek merely repeats an idea that is present throughout the reformist left in Europe: that the cuts in welfare spending are not necessary even from the point of view of capitalism, but an irrational ideological fixation of the European bourgeois politicians. Instead of explaining that, given the fundamental inner contradictions of a system based on profit, the bourgeois have no other policies to offer; instead of explaining that within the confines of capitalism there is no way out, he presents the situation as one where the European bourgeois have all gone mad and are behaving “irrationally”. From this it flows that a solution within the confines of capitalism is possible.

We have to ask the question: what is it that makes the European bourgeois – and reformist – political leaders act so “irrationally”? The European political leaders are currently acting within the context of the deepest crisis in the history of capitalism. It is this crisis that determines their policies and behaviour. Zizek, who has many times referred to this crisis in other speeches and also in some of his writings, this time does not seem to pay any particular attention to the concrete material conditions, nor does he provide an analysis of the class struggle that flows from them. All we need is some “rationality”, and he sees SYRIZA and its leader Tsipras as the bearer of this logical thought.

For Marxists this is an idealistic way of seeing things. Capitalism is certainly an irrational system, from the point of view of the real needs of humanity. But so long as it exists, what pushes it forward is the quest for profit on the part of all the capitalists. That which produces profit is logical and rational for the capitalists, that which does not is illogical and irrational!

His idealist view of the crisis stems from a lack of a Marxist view of the crisis, and his support for class collaboration stems from his belief that "we will still live for some decades within capitalism," leading to the Stalinist solution of a Popular Front. I am very surprised at Zizek for holding these counter-revolutionary views.

Tim Cornelis
7th September 2013, 01:35
Bourgeoisie = Capitalist Class (noun)
Bourgeois = Capitalist (adjective)
It's not that hard people.

The author beggs the question, though, is the bourgeoisie really compelled to pursue these policies of austerity? And is the crisis really insolvable within the confines of capitalism? He does not provide answers, but merely postulates this to be true on faith. I don't know the answer either but hence I don't make definite claims regarding the cause of crises. His sentence that profit making is rational from a capitalist perspective, from there it does not follow that therefore austerity is rational as well.

A.J.
8th September 2013, 23:01
I shouldn't really reply here, as sad little sects such as the one the OP sources are beneath me. However, this one time;

It's meaningless to state 'SYRIZA' has taken a "social democratic turn" when it was a social democratic formation from the very get-go!

Moreover, how can this little sect have the temerity to critique the emergence of social-democratism in any political movement when they're whole reason for existence is performing entrism into parties of classical social democracy?

On which point, the passage quoted also criticises popular front tactics as being some sort of class-collaboration. Quite astonishing when, as stated in previous paragraph, the main purpose of this particular little sect is to enter social democratic organisations - the principal agency of class-collaboration in the labour movement!

Bizzare little sect.

Red_Banner
9th September 2013, 00:14
Syriza was just intended to be a coalition of leftist parties from the get go.

urstaat
12th September 2013, 04:42
This, I claim, is ideology at its purest.

Paul Pott
12th September 2013, 05:14
This, I claim, is ideology at its purest.

What does this mean?

Die Neue Zeit
15th September 2013, 07:15
Syriza was just intended to be a coalition of leftist parties from the get go.

And now that the coalition model has outlived its usefulness, left unity in that country isn't achieved by a coalition rife with factions and factionalism, but by a singular party with diverse tendencies.

Popular Front of Judea
15th September 2013, 08:04
And now that the coalition model has outlived its usefulness, left unity in that country isn't achieved by a coalition rife with factions and factionalism, but by a singular party with diverse tendencies.

Minor quibble: How do you have factions and factionalism in a coalition of left organizations?

Nuke Israel
16th September 2013, 22:06
This article is by the Grant-Woods tendency, which enters social-democratic parties to recruit for their tendency. They entered SYRIZA on this basis. Grant-Woods tendency complaining about reformism is ironic because they are essentially reformist in practice. For example, in the UK they are members of New Labour.

blake 3:17
19th September 2013, 06:20
Is the IMT pro-EU? I couldn't figure it out from their site other than that they're for a socialist Europe... Like duh...

This is quoting a quote of Zizek from a interview quoted in the article:
A dream for me of what SYRIZA should be, within this global redistribution, is to make life easier even for truly productive capitalists... This would be a true triumph for SYRIZA... They would say that not only did we make it easier for the workers, but if you are a good honest capitalist you should vote for us... And I am ready to come to you and be some kind of voice of ‘capitalists for SYRIZA’. That would be my dream

Thoughts?

I find Zizek a compelling thinker, if a bit nuts.

I'm very lightly involved in a movement campaign that is composed of workers and poor people making demands on capitalists and the state and the lines can get fuzzy. What if we start winning? What if some more enlightened capitalists, and it could well be ones with deeper pockets, realize its in their long term interests to meet our demands? That'd be great! Would we tell them we didn't want what we asking for after all?