2013 chit chat awards - awards are tonight

[RedAnarchist]

The 2013 Chit Chat Survey and Awards nominations are now open, so please send your nominations via PM to me before December 1st. The Awards Ceremony will take place at 10pm UK time on Friday, December 6th.

https://docs.google.com/document/d/1twAwGgYZR5Ebsr3_6fdoObiZGfqTzPK1WALzIKDsQyU/edit?usp=sharing

[Sentinel]

There are several new, exciting categories present, especially in the RevLeft section! Send yours in now! :)

[The Douche]

What does "most respected IRL activist on revleft" mean?

[RedAnarchist]

What does "most respected IRL activist on revleft" mean?

Someone who is an IRL activist as well as a member of RevLeft.

[Sentinel]

And is respected, a lot..

[Il Medico]

Is there a way to copy paste this into the PM box or anyway to submit this without having to manually copy all the questions?

[Sam_b]

Trotskyism is apparently not a 'broad tendency' any more.

[F9]

Trotskyism is apparently not a 'broad tendency' any more.

It was never a tendency anyway...
Burn the Trots!!!

I nominate myself EVERYWHERE beside for newbie category!!
As for the survey(if we still do it?) i eat,drink and watch OMONOIA, ONLY OMONOIA

[F9]

also... Anarcho-Platformism a main tendency as well, and no Anarcho-Communism(no its not equal to insurrectionary...)?We have around here how many platformists?None?:lol:

Anyway, just give it to the trots, the tendency doesnt exist because you took over the board...:mad:

[Trap Queen Voxxy]

I better win stuff this year assholes.

[Sentinel]

Trotskyism is apparently not a 'broad tendency' any more.

The problem is that some trotskyists will go like 'oh no, I'm not a trotskyist, I'm a marxist!' Or even, 'bolshevik-leninist'. Therefore there is the category 'non-stalinist (leninist) marxist', which is meant to be inclusive of both trotskyists and these people who reject the label.

The categories are basically meant to be as inclusive as possible, to not turn out with a survey with as many tendencies as members. Same kind of logic is used with the different anarchist tendencies, while one can be an anarcho-communist but not belong to one of the other tendencies listed, it is more complicated the other way around; it's a term that is inclusive of different schools of thought.

And in any case, a die hard 'plain' anarcho-communist can vote 'other anarchist' if none of the other options suites them. There is nothing wrong with that option Fuserg9. ;)

[The Douche]

How should we know how "respected" a member is IRL if we don't know each other IRL? For instance, we all know Psycho is heavily involved in the antifa/squat scene, but we don't really know the projects he's worked on or anything like that, so how can we know how "deserving of respect" he is or whatever?

Also, why is "activism" necessarily worthy of "respect", like, woop-dee-doo you organized an ineffectual protest, but it mobilized 20,000 people. Worthy of respect or waste of time? I dunno, the question seems flawed for this community. I wouldn't even know how to answer it, the only reason I know about the activism of some members is because of facebook...

[Decolonize The Left]

Is there a way to copy paste this into the PM box or anyway to submit this without having to manually copy all the questions?

I was able to select all in the doc and paste in the PM box...

[Sentinel]

How should we know how "respected" a member is IRL if we don't know each other IRL? For instance, we all know Psycho is heavily involved in the antifa/squat scene, but we don't really know the projects he's worked on or anything like that, so how can we know how "deserving of respect" he is or whatever?

Also, why is "activism" necessarily worthy of "respect", like, woop-dee-doo you organized an ineffectual protest, but it mobilized 20,000 people. Worthy of respect or waste of time? I dunno, the question seems flawed for this community. I wouldn't even know how to answer it, the only reason I know about the activism of some members is because of facebook...

The purpose of the question is to ask who on this board we think has the most cred as an actual activist, as opposed to an armchair, ivory tower type. If you disapprove of activism or otherwise don't want to answer this question, you are allowed to leave any such answers blank.

Overall, this is meant to be something light hearted and fun, so can't we all relax a bit..? ;)

[Sam_b]

Therefore there is the category 'non-stalinist (leninist) marxist', which is meant to be inclusive of both trotskyists and these people who reject the label.

I mean, there are 369 members of the group and it's one of the bigger tendencies on RL, more so than some of the others there. I'm not going to do the awards anyway so I don't really care, but it's still something that should be considered.

[Il Medico]

I was able to select all in the doc and paste in the PM box...
Do you have to be a remember of google docs or something to do that? I can't copy paste it, it's read only for me.

[RedAnarchist]

Sorry for the problems with copying and pasting, here are the questions in plain text -

Survey

Q1 - Age

19 and below
20-29
30-39
40-49
50-59
60 and above

Q2 - Biological Sex

Male
Female
Intersex

Q3 - Gender Identity

This is a write-in question.

Q4 - Sexual Orientation

This is a write-in question.

Q5 - Country of Birth

This is a write-in question.

Q6 - Country of Residence

This is a write-in question.

Q7 - Mother Tongue

This is a write-in question.

Q8 - Languages Spoken Fluently

This is a write-in question asking for the number of languages that you can speak fluently (ie, being able to hold at least a basic conversation in that language).

Q9 - Broad Tendency

Maoist
Marxist-Leninist
Non-Stalinist (leninist) Marxist
Non-Leninist Marxist
Anarcho-Syndicalist
Platformist Anarchist
Insurrectionary Anarchist
Other Anarchist
Other (please specify)

Q10 - Religion or Lack Of

This is a write-in question.

Q11 - Occupation

This is a write-in question.

Q12 - Do you drink alcohol?

Yes
No

Q13 - Do you smoke?

Yes
No


Q14 - Do you use any drug other than alcohol or tobacco?

Yes
No

Q15 - Preferred Food Source

Omnivore
Carnivore
Vegetarian
Vegan
Other (please specify)

Q16 - Year Joined RevLeft

There is no need to answer this question as I can see the year from your PM when you send in your answers.

2013 Chit Chat Awards

The questions are mostly the same as those given last year. As usual, if an award is in regards to an event, or in regards to a person, the event or person can only be nominated if the event took place after December 1st, 2012. Generic categories such as favourite food, drink, author etc do not fall under this rule.

Favourites Section

Favourite food
Favourite drink
Favourite non-political author
Favourite political author
Favourite music genre
Favourite music group
Favourite singer
Favourite political figure
Least favourite historical political figure
Least favourite contemporary political figure
Favourite website that isn’t RevLeft
Favourite artist (non-musical)
Favourite film genre
Favourite book genre
Tea or Coffee (Options - Tea, Coffee, Neither, Both)
American Humor or British Humour (American, British, Neither, Both)

2013 Section

International Crisis of the Year
Revolutionary Political Organisation of the Year
Non-Revolutionary Political Organisation of the Year
Most Reactionary Political Organisation of the Year
Politician of the Year
Non-Politician of the Year
Reactionary of the Year
Most Amusing Instance of the Year
Favourite Internet Meme of the Year
Website of the Year
Film of the Year
Album of the Year
Song of the Year
Book of the Year
Technological or Scientific Advancement of the Year

RevLeft Section

Most Interesting thread of 2013 (please provide a link)
Most Amusing thread of 2013 (please provide a link)
Revleft Buzzword of the 2013
Biggest Shitstorm of 2013
Biggest Troll of 2013
Rudest Member of 2013
Most Sectarian Member of 2013
Most Controversial Member of 2013
Most Annoying Member of 2013
Strangest Member of 2013
Favourite Restricted Member of 2013
Most Amusing Member of 2013
Favourite Noob of 2013
Nicest Member of 2013
Most Helpful Member of 2013
User with the Highest Theoretical Level of 2013
Most Missed Member
Most Respected IRL Activist on RevLeft
Favourite RevLet subforum
Favourite member from another tendency of 2013
Favourite unbanned member of 2013
Favourite returning old Member of 2013
Favourite non-Moderator/Admin of 2013
Favourite Moderator of 2013
Favourite Admin of 2013

Golden Che Award 2013

This is the last of the awards given out in the ceremony. There have been controversies in the past regarding winners of this award, including when a restricted member, who is now banned, won the Award a few years ago. In 2011, however, the award was given posthumously to Redstar2000 after his sad passing that year, and it could not have gone to anyone else but him.

[CyM]

Seriously, this is chit chat. Answer the damned questions to the best of your ability. When in doubt, fucking guess, this is not a scientific poll.

[Anglo-Saxon Philistine]

If I don't win the "Most Sectarian Member" award I am going to denounce each of you individually to Workers Vanguard.

[The Douche]

The purpose of the question is to ask who on this board we think has the most cred as an actual activist, as opposed to an armchair, ivory tower type. If you disapprove of activism or otherwise don't want to answer this question, you are allowed to leave any such answers blank.

Overall, this is meant to be something light hearted and fun, so can't we all relax a bit..? ;)

I don't think anybody is upset...

My question wasn't about the relevancy of activism, you're just reading stuff into my post.

[The Feral Underclass]

To be honest, I think the fact "activism" is being given so much credit says a lot about the politics of RevLeft.

[Rugged Collectivist]

Ah yes. My favorite time of the year.

[F9]

The problem is that some trotskyists will go like 'oh no, I'm not a trotskyist, I'm a marxist!' Or even, 'bolshevik-leninist'. Therefore there is the category 'non-stalinist (leninist) marxist', which is meant to be inclusive of both trotskyists and these people who reject the label.

The categories are basically meant to be as inclusive as possible, to not turn out with a survey with as many tendencies as members. Same kind of logic is used with the different anarchist tendencies, while one can be an anarcho-communist but not belong to one of the other tendencies listed, it is more complicated the other way around; it's a term that is inclusive of different schools of thought.

And in any case, a die hard 'plain' anarcho-communist can vote 'other anarchist' if none of the other options suites them. There is nothing wrong with that option Fuserg9. ;)

Yeah of course nothing wrong with that option, others as well, my main "concern" was that platformists exist as an option when really... i cant recall anyone around here fitting there. the last one i remember i think got banned :grin:

[Sentinel]

I think both TAT and Forward Union, for example, count themselves as platformists.

Neither of them thinks the other one is, though. :grin:

[Geiseric]

Wait why is Trotskyist not an option when there are not one but two stalinist options? Maoism and Marxism Leninism are actually the same thing if people didn't notice by now, and they're both not banned for some reason? There is the whole nuance of some people claiming they're not trotskyists because they're ACTUALLY plain old marxists, blah blah blah, but it seems kind of weird, like it was ignored on purpose, and trotskyists are in the same grouping as DNZites.

[Art Vandelay]

Wait why is Trotskyist not an option when there are not one but two stalinist options? Maoism and Marxism Leninism are actually the same thing if people didn't notice by now, and they're both not banned for some reason? There is the whole nuance of some people claiming they're not trotskyists because they're ACTUALLY plain old marxists, blah blah blah, but it seems kind of weird, like it was ignored on purpose, and trotskyists are in the same grouping as DNZites.

Dear god, shut up. Not just you but everyone making a big deal out of this. This is the revleft chit chat awards. Also anyone using the term 'DNZites' (:laugh:) regulates themselves to the camp of people who should never be taken seriously, ever.

[Geiseric]

Dear god, shut up. Not just you but everyone making a big deal out of this. This is the revleft chit chat awards. Also anyone using the term 'DNZites' (:laugh:) regulates themselves to the camp of people who should never be taken seriously, ever.

I was mostly kidding with the DNZite thing. But it just looked like it was on purpose, I mean Maoist and Marxist Leninist are just as broad tendencies as Trotskyist.

[Sam_b]

I wouldn't really look into it that much. Chit Chat 'awards' are just stupid yearly polls where everyone votes for their pals, there's really no point to them.

[RedAnarchist]

*bump*

[Sam_b]

How does one 'bump' something that is sticked?

[Quail]

It's been bumped back into consciousness. It came up when I clicked "new posts"

[cyu]

I'm getting the urge to vote for Sam_b for everything :)

[Sentinel]

All users with more than 1200 posts, that have posted within the last 3 months, have now received a PM asking to participate. Other members that have posted within the same timeframe have received an email.

I would have PM'd everyone but the names of PM recipients have to be added manually. In any case, there is now a good chance of a high turnout, which will make it much more funny and interesting.

Send in your replies today! :)

[RedAnarchist]

The Awards are tonight. 22 people so far have sent in nominations, but there is still time for people to send in their nominations if they wish.

[Brutus]

If I'm not favourite newbie I'll weep myself to sleep for a month.

[Art Vandelay]

If I'm not favourite newbie I'll weep myself to sleep for a month.

You joined in 2012 so technically you're not a newbie I believe.

[Panda Tse Tung]

Filled it and nailed it!

[Brutus]

You joined in 2012 so technically you're not a newbie I believe.

But I wasn't around for the last CC awards... And I joined 6 days prior to 2013! Damn... Guess I'll never be anyone's favourite newbie :(

[bcbm]

i dusted off my tux, i am ready.

[RedAnarchist]

I'm thinking next year, if I do it again, of using a survey site for the survey questions which might make it easier to collate the results, rather than using the PM system. I would have to find one that can allow for write-in answers, and I'm not sure if such a site could be used for the Awards themselves.

[The Feral Underclass]

Perhaps you could also make it shorter?


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[RedAnarchist]

Perhaps you could also make it shorter?


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There are a few questions that could be removed, both from the survey and the awards themselves, yeah.

[Sam_b]

Does anyone really care what people's favourite food is?

[Ele'ill]

Does anyone really care what people's favourite food is?

hardly anyone even cared about the chit chat awards