View Full Version : The man who made Femen
Crux
4th September 2013, 10:23
Link (http://www.independent.co.uk/arts-entertainment/films/news/the-man-who-made-femen-new-film-outs-victor-svyatski-as-the-mastermind-behind-the-protest-group-and-its-breastbaring-stunts-8797042.html)
Only gradually did she become aware that Mr Svyatski was pulling the strings behind the scenes. Once I was in the inner circle, you cant not know him. He is Femen.
Initially, Mr Svyatski refused to allow Ms Green to film him but she was determined that he should feature. It was a big moral thing for me because I realised how this organisation was run. He was quite horrible with the girls. He would scream at them and call them *****es.
When the Femen founder finally spoke to Ms Green, he sought to justify his role within the organisation and acknowledged the paradox of being a patriarch running a feminist protest group. These girls are weak, he says in the film.
They dont have the strength of character. They dont even have the desire to be strong. Instead, they show submissiveness, spinelessness, lack of punctuality, and many other factors which prevent them from becoming political activists. These are qualities which it was essential to teach them.
Flying Purple People Eater
4th September 2013, 12:02
Well this is bloody disturbing.
Mr Svyatski insists to Ms Green that his influence on the group is positive. However, when he is asked directly whether he started Femen “to get girls”, he replies: “Perhaps yes, somewhere in my deep subconscious.”
One of the Femen campaigners talks of the relationship between the women and the movement’s founder as being akin to “Stockholm syndrome”, in which hostages feel sympathy for their captors.
“We are psychologically dependent on him and even if we know and understand that we could do this by ourselves without his help, it’s psychological dependence,” she says.
Some fucking "women's rights" group. And to think I was sympathetic to some of their earlier protests.
Per Levy
7th September 2013, 12:38
However, Ms Green reveals that Svyatski is not simply a supporter of Femen but its founder and minence grise. Its his movement and he hand-picked the girls. He hand-picked the prettiest girls because the prettiest girls sell more papers. The prettiest girls get on the front page... that became their image, that became the way they sold the brand, she says.
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Initially, Mr Svyatski refused to allow Ms Green to film him but she was determined that he should feature. It was a big moral thing for me because I realised how this organisation was run. He was quite horrible with the girls. He would scream at them and call them *****es.
When the Femen founder finally spoke to Ms Green, he sought to justify his role within the organisation and acknowledged the paradox of being a patriarch running a feminist protest group. These girls are weak, he says in the film.
They dont have the strength of character. They dont even have the desire to be strong. Instead, they show submissiveness, spinelessness, lack of punctuality, and many other factors which prevent them from becoming political activists. These are qualities which it was essential to teach them.
Mr Svyatski insists to Ms Green that his influence on the group is positive. However, when he is asked directly whether he started Femen to get girls, he replies: Perhaps yes, somewhere in my deep subconscious.
One of the Femen campaigners talks of the relationship between the women and the movements founder as being akin to Stockholm syndrome, in which hostages feel sympathy for their captors.
We are psychologically dependent on him and even if we know and understand that we could do this by ourselves without his help, its psychological dependence, she says.
http://www.independent.co.uk/arts-entertainment/films/news/the-man-who-made-femen-new-film-outs-victor-svyatski-as-the-mastermind-behind-the-protest-group-and-its-breastbaring-stunts-8797042.html
im sorry if this was posted allready.
Flying Purple People Eater
7th September 2013, 12:40
Indeed it was.
http://www.revleft.com/vb/man-made-femen-t183055/index.html
Maybe the threads could be merged?
Per Levy
7th September 2013, 12:44
damn it, i was looking through womens struggles and i didnt see that? bah, im lacking in finding threads. please delete this thread then.
human strike
7th September 2013, 14:11
Feminist vanguardism?
Quail
7th September 2013, 17:23
Just merged these threads.
It is pretty disturbing, although I'm not really a fan of FEMEN anyway.
Fakeblock
7th September 2013, 17:59
Apparently he was kicked out a while ago.
http://www.vice.com/en_uk/read/talking-to-femen-about-their-shadowy-leader
adipocere
7th September 2013, 18:06
Ah Femen, a grand farce of naked breasts and mock revolutionary rhetoric, young women acting like sexbots while spouting silly western talking points against 'state enemies.' Conceived through male fantasy planning, well paid, well kept, and well traveled. An ironic pimping, misogynistic.
RedBen
7th September 2013, 18:24
i am dumbfounded i never heard of this group. seems obvious now what intentions were upon some reading. as they say hindsight is 20/20.
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