A Message From The Syrian Communist Party

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A Message From The Syrian Communist Party September 1, 2013

This is a message from the Syrian Communist Party (Unified) to all Communist Parties and Unions around the world.
Dear Comrades;
The Syrian Communist Party (the Unified) sends you its warmest cordial wishes, wishing that you would have a new year full of victories that serve the case of socialism all over the world;
You know that our country- Syria- has been being exposed for more than twenty months, to a war lunched against it by scores of imperialist states, besides other countries that move round them as satellites.
Their aim is to destroy the Syrian state that stands as an obstacle on the road of those trying to impose the plan of a “greater Middle East”, after breaking down the states in the region and replacing them with small entities fighting one another, to impose absolute domination on the oil and gas resources; to eliminate the Palestinian problem in a way extremely opposite to the interests of the Palestinian people.
These countries manipulated the mistakes and shortcomings of the regime one on hand, and the popular movements opposing these shortcomings. The movements were peaceful at first, later they turned into armed ones, which received support on a wide scale from the alliance that emerged consisting of U.S.A, Turkey, Qatar and Saudi Arabia. Turkey occupied the border exits with Syria, to help weapons being smuggled, the entrance of thousands of mercenaries calling themselves as Jihaddis who built camps for training supporters and allies. Billions of U.S petro dollars were spent for this purpose. The most exciting forms of psychological war were being resorted to making use of the services of about a hundred T.V stations to plant the spirits of sectarianism and ethnic strife between members of the same people, later, the so called jihaddis groups turned to destroying the Syrian economy; they declared a war against the Syrian people using economic embargo and sanctions. Armed Attacks were launched against popular and private properties. Explosive and booby trapped cars were also used.
Electricity generating stations were blown up, wire nets carrying electricity were cut down, oil wells were exploded, tankers, carrying oil were burned up. Thousands of tons of wheels were stolen and smuggled to Turkey. About one thousand factories and workshops in Aleppo were stolen. Machines belonging to these factories were sold in Turkey as accessories at the lowest prices, irrigation projects as well as animal growing centers, were attacked, roads between cities and towns all over Syria were closed; health centers, schools and universities were targeted. Scientists, doctors, officers were targeted, kidnapped and often murdered.
Thousands of soldiers as well as civilians were kidnapped. It was discovered that the armed gangs carried out massacres. The corpses of the victims were thrown down in rivers.
Some victims were beheaded. Others were mutilated. These forms of crimes belong to the middle ages.
Few days ago, murders carried out a series of crimes by means of Cars, especially in Aleppo where 85 university students from Aleppo University were killed and hundreds wounded.
Dear Comrades;
Today Syria is being directly targeted by Turkey through a direct war.
Turkey publically admits it supplies terrorists and criminals, with all the weaponry and weapons the murderers who belong to 29 countries need.
These actions are flagrant violation of the international law which prohibits any country to use its territories to attack its neighbours. We know that Turkey, alone, can never do these things without American, European and Gulf States support. Syria is resisting this aggression and inflecting heavy losses on those gangs. Consequently, criminals as well as terrorists are not able to achieve all their goals. But Syrians are paying heavy price during the resistance.
Syria never believes that the solution of the problem is a military one, rather, it has ever since the birth of the problem called for a peaceful and political solution through a comprehensive national dialogue. In the meantime, the aggressive alliance imposes preconditions for the national dialogue in a way that makes the political solution impossible.
Importantly enough, the Syrian government has declared a new peaceful initiative.
The initiatives, farther, emphasize the need for democratic reforms, a new constitution, besides a new general and national pact which is to be prepared by all forces including the opposition. The pact should insist that all military operation conducted by the Syrian army, on one hand, and the cessation of the infiltration of mercenaries’ to Syria on the other hand. Unfortunately, the initiative has been refused instantly by the armed terrorist groups and those who support it and demand that violence and terrorism continue.
Two days ago, a new development occurred and would possibly change the directions of events in Syria. Of course, what is meant is the sudden Israeli aggression against a Syrian scientific research center near the Syria and Lebanese borders, such an aggression helps unmask the real essence of Israel and its attempts to manipulate the current events in Syria to weaken the Syrian army and open new fronts.
So far the Syrian people have to paid a very heavy price, tens of thousands of innocent civilian have been killed. Today Syria is exposed to a human catastrophe.
About three millions Syrian citizens have fled their houses and become internally displaced refugees in neighbouring countries living in unbelievably miserable conditions needing food and medicine. These refugees appeal to the international public opinion to pressure the governments of U.S.A, Europe, Qatar and Saudi Arabia to put an end to the siege and economic sanctions imposed on Syria. Besides, they demand that support to armed gangs cease instantly, because it threatens not Syria alone but a great number of places in the world.
Dear comrades; Your solidarity and support to our people will be highly appreciated by our people in these days. Moreover, it will represent another proof indicating the unity and solidarity of revolutionary powers all over the world.
Damascus: 9/2/2013
The Syrian Communist Party the Unified
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[Stalinist Speaker]

the communists,socialists e.t.c of sweden are going to take out the streets to protest against obamas visit to Sweden to show that he isn´t welcome here and protest against US imperialist aggressions. i hope that there will be protest against US-aggression against syria worldwide. I wish you and the syrian people a socialist future::hammersickle:

[Comrade Sun Wukong]

The Syrian Communist Party (Bakdash) is also in agreement:


Glory to the honorable patriotic steadfastness!
Syria will not kneel!
A statement of the Syrian Communist Party

Masses of the Syrian people!
Sisters, brothers!

The Syrian Communist Party is heading towards you, in these difficult days, calling to close ranks and to make every effort to combat the brutal colonial aggression. After world imperialism and its spearhead, the American imperialism have failed to conquer Syria through the imposition of the blockade and the support of the criminal and subversive operations of the terrorist bands which have committed heinous acts including horrific massacres, many of them on sectarian and ethnic basis, and the sabotaging and destruction of economic establishments and imposing obscurantist laws strange to the composition of the Syrian people which is characterized by openness and tolerance. We believe that American imperialism is announcing its willingness to direct military aggression, she and her allies, under the pretext of acts made by her agents and supervised by its organs.

Yes, it’s clearly visible that American imperialism is basing its aggression on false charges to justify its act. This brute force accuses us of crimes that have been committed by her all over the world under the hypocritical banner “Defense of the free world and democracy”. Witness the use of the invading American forces bacterial and chemical weapons in the war against Korea in the middle of the last century, and the use of the same weapons in the war against the liberation movement of the people of Vietnam, including the powder «Orange B», which because of it, women in Vietnam still give birth to deformed children after forty years of the end of this war in which the American imperialism came out defeated and in deep shame. The U.S. military machine used enriched uranium in the war against our brotherly Iraq but that did not help in enabling the occupation and the American invaders fled from the land of proud Iraq like mice. The overall crimes committed by American imperialism and for many decades, calls for providing its leaders, including the presidents to the international war crime tribunal like the court which criminalized the rulers and leaders of Hitler’s Germany. The Nazis contemporaries of imperialist and Zionist leaders will meet the same fate, thanks to the liberation struggle of the peoples of the world.

The brave Syrian people and army, after the heroic patriotic steadfastness for more than two years, in the face of the undeclared war that was launched on it, will address valiantly and with more courage the blatant military aggression. It will do so led by the heroic examples from the makers of Hiteen to the martyrs of Maysaloon and the heroes of the Great Syrian Revolt.

The defense of Syria’s national regime, which faces head held high, all methods of aggression, refusing humiliation and submission, means defending the country and its sovereignty and independence.

In these difficult circumstances through which our country and our people, all efforts must be made to strengthen all fronts: political, military and economic. The Syrian people are not alone in battle, with it in struggle the support of all free peoples in the world.

Shame and disgrace for imperialism and its agents!
Glory to the honorable patriotic steadfastness!
Syria will not kneel!

Damascus 28/8/2013

Central Committee
Syrian Communist Party

[Per Levy]

i kinda want to know something, are these 2 partys the loyal opposition to the baath party(like the russian cp to the united russia) or is there more to them?

[khad]

i kinda want to know something, are these 2 partys the loyal opposition to the baath party(like the russian cp to the united russia) or is there more to them?
They both sit in the ruling National Progressive Front coalition. The Unified party is a smaller perestroika splinter.

The "loyal opposition" right now basically only consists of the previously-outlawed Syrian Social Nationalist Party, a far right sect.

[Comrade Sun Wukong]

i kinda want to know something, are these 2 partys the loyal opposition to the baath party(like the russian cp to the united russia) or is there more to them?

I'm sure there is a Trotskyist in a phone booth somewhere in Damascus right now, founding his own Fourth International. You should support him, lol.

[servusmoderni]

I'm very happy to see they're still alive. They probably escaped to Turkey or Jordan... ;)Good luck to them all!

[Per Levy]

I'm sure there is a Trotskyist in a phone booth somewhere in Damascus right now, founding his own Fourth International. You should support him, lol.

why would a leftcom support a trot? also do you have anything else to say except lol, lmao and so on?

@khad: thanks for the info, that makes these "communist" partys part of a bourgeois gouvernment that is very much anti-worker. good to know.

[CommieMaybe]

Great to know that Socialists around the world are in contact with each other.

[Fred]

Oy, neither statement says a word about class struggle or socialism. I am sure the Syrian comrades are brave souls, but politically, both statements suggest the parties that are issuing them are nationalistic and offer political support to Assad. Of course, Syria should be defended against imperialist intervention. But no political support is possible to either side in the Syrian conflict.

[Fred]

I'm sure there is a Trotskyist in a phone booth somewhere in Damascus right now, founding his own Fourth International. You should support him, lol.

So far the majority of the posts you've made that I've had the misfortune to read are one line snarks at various tendencies. Making absolutely vacuous comments is surely a waste of everyone's time, including your own.

[khad]

@khad: thanks for the info, that makes these "communist" partys part of a bourgeois gouvernment that is very much anti-worker. good to know.
Ironically, they're more of a workers' movement than all the sects in the west put together, as the majority of their political offices are reserved for people who are workers and peasants. If those western sects did that, they'd all collapse virtually overnight, apart from maybe the KKE.

Perhaps the issue is that the Western liberal left has nothing to offer? I mean, after all, what do you guys do besides meekly "condemn both sides" when communists are targeted for extermination by religious fundamentalists? Their HQ in Damascus was already suicide bombed, and in Aleppo, they've been rounding up and executing party members, particularly among the Kurds in the Shayk Maksoud district. Is it really at all surprising that Syrian communists are prioritizing the survival of their own party over some vague philosophical bullshit?

Oh, damn, Zizek just drooled all over his keyboard (http://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2013/sep/06/syria-pseudo-struggle-egypt), joining the chorus condemning all sides in Syria and called it a pseudo-struggle. With these scathing condemnations from intellectuals who've never had to make an existential decision in their lives, Syrian communists better commit suicide right now in shame.

[hashem]

syrian "communist" parties (all of their factions) which participate in the government are counter revolutionaries and servants of Baath regime. they have been like this for decades.

[Comrade Sun Wukong]

It's hilarious how "Left Unity" only extends to shitty European social-democratic parties, all who participate in bourgeois imperialist governments. Euro-"Marxists" love "socialist" groups like the French "New Anti-Capitalist Party" and the Greek SYRIZA. They can't get enough of them, and write countless essays about how we need exactly the same shitty imperialist social-democratic formations in Amerika.

Communists and socialists that are not European get no such solidarity, and nothing they say or do could possibly sway Euro-"Marxists" to support them.

:laugh::laugh::laugh::laugh:

[khad]

syrian "communist" parties (all of their factions) which participate in the government are counter revolutionaries and servants of Baath regime. they have been like this for decades.
You support the Afghan Maoists who got themselves tortured and hacked to pieces by their takfiri mujahideen bedmates.

Islamist popular front, guys!
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Afghanistan_Liberation_Organization

In June 1979, RGPA convened the Mujahedin Freedom Fighters Front of Afghanistan (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mujahedin_Freedom_Fighters_Front_of_Afghanistan) together with Islamist elements, as a united front (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_front) against the pro-Soviet government.[1] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Afghanistan_Liberation_Organization#cite_note-left-1)

[/URL] Dr. Faiz Ahmad himself was assassinated on November 12, 1986 along with his 6 other comrades by the [URL="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Islamic_Party_of_Afghanistan"]Hizb-e Islami (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Afghanistan_Liberation_Organization#cite_note-2) militia of Gulbuddin Hekmatyar (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gulbuddin_Hekmatyar).
Is committing suicide still considered a revolutionary act?

[Fred]

Ironically, they're more of a workers' movement than all the sects in the west put together, as the majority of their political offices are reserved for people who are workers and peasants. If those western sects did that, they'd all collapse virtually overnight, apart from maybe the KKE.

Perhaps the issue is that the Western liberal left has nothing to offer? I mean, after all, what do you guys do besides meekly "condemn both sides" when communists are targeted for extermination by religious fundamentalists? Their HQ in Damascus was already suicide bombed, and in Aleppo, they've been rounding up and executing party members, particularly among the Kurds in the Shayk Maksoud district. Is it really at all surprising that Syrian communists are prioritizing the survival of their own party over some vague philosophical bullshit?

Oh, damn, Zizek just drooled all over his keyboard (http://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2013/sep/06/syria-pseudo-struggle-egypt), joining the chorus condemning all sides in Syria and called it a pseudo-struggle. With these scathing condemnations from intellectuals who've never had to make an existential decision in their lives, Syrian communists better commit suicide right now in shame.
Wait, you can condemn the POLITICS of both sides and still defend Syria against imperialist aggression. And you can/must defend the Syrian Communists against internal and external repression. The problem with the groups entailed is that they give a political cover to the baathists -- this is not abstract and it is not without huge material consequences. The British Labor Party has more working class members than the entire far left of the entire world, I would guess. What does that prove? Your point suggests that you confuse defense, with support. These are two different things, comrade.

[Fred]

It's hilarious how "Left Unity" only extends to shitty European social-democratic parties, all who participate in bourgeois imperialist governments. Euro-"Marxists" love "socialist" groups like the French "New Anti-Capitalist Party" and the Greek SYRIZA. They can't get enough of them, and write countless essays about how we need exactly the same shitty imperialist social-democratic formations in Amerika.

Communists and socialists that are not European get no such solidarity, and nothing they say or do could possibly sway Euro-"Marxists" to support them.

:laugh::laugh::laugh::laugh:

Which is it? Is the left too sectarian or opportunist? Again, not one iota of positive program -- just sniping, undocumented criticism.

At least in this case, you might have something of a point. The biggest problem with the left is that it gives political support, all over the place to reformist and class alien entities. There have been numerous threads on "left unity" on RevLeft. It is always a question of "unity for what?" Unity around a non-revolutionary program traditionally leads to, well, not revolution.

[Sinister Cultural Marxist]

Ironically, they're more of a workers' movement than all the sects in the west put together, as the majority of their political offices are reserved for people who are workers and peasants. If those western sects did that, they'd all collapse virtually overnight, apart from maybe the KKE.

Perhaps the issue is that the Western liberal left has nothing to offer? I mean, after all, what do you guys do besides meekly "condemn both sides" when communists are targeted for extermination by religious fundamentalists? Their HQ in Damascus was already suicide bombed, and in Aleppo, they've been rounding up and executing party members, particularly among the Kurds in the Shayk Maksoud district. Is it really at all surprising that Syrian communists are prioritizing the survival of their own party over some vague philosophical bullshit?


OK so the parties are made up of workers in terms of their demographics, but this doesn't prove beyond a reasonable doubt that their politics are any good. What kind of working class opposition did these "communist parties" pose to the 40-50 years of bourgeois, nationalist and militarist authoritarianism from the Baath party and Assad family? If they are really "Communist", why all this talk about "patriotism," a sentiment of false consciousness which just holds back the realization of common class interests which cross borders? I don't doubt the fact that Salafi nuts are violently persecuting these people, but you can't really disassociate the current crisis from the past 50 years of governance and its impact on the social and material conditions of the Syrian people. Why didn't a secular, working class opposition to the Baathists develop earlier? Why are Salafists the ones dominating the critical discourse against the regime outside of the Kurdish community, and not socialists?



Oh, damn, Zizek just drooled all over his keyboard (http://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2013/sep/06/syria-pseudo-struggle-egypt), joining the chorus condemning all sides in Syria and called it a pseudo-struggle. With these scathing condemnations from intellectuals who've never had to make an existential decision in their lives, Syrian communists better commit suicide right now in shame. What do you suggest? Supporting the nationalist bourgeois Baathists who have governed Syria for 50 years and played no small part in creating this situation to begin with?

[khad]

Wait, you can condemn the POLITICS of both sides and still defend Syria against imperialist aggression. And you can/must defend the Syrian Communists against internal and external repression. The problem with the groups entailed is that they give a political cover to the baathists -- this is not abstract and it is not without huge material consequences. The British Labor Party has more working class members than the entire far left of the entire world, I would guess. What does that prove? Your point suggests that you confuse defense, with support. These are two different things, comrade.
Well, defense, let's talk about that.

See, if the international left organized a revolutionary defense of the Syrian communists, then maybe they'd have room to criticize and articulate an independent position on what needs to be done to safeguard the Syrian left. As it is, the only group to offer the Syrian communists any material assistance in the matters of defense is the Syrian government and perhaps some allied YPG militia groups.

What does the Western left offer the Syrian communists in terms of defense against the groups that want to wipe them out? What has the Western left done for the Syrian communists to warrant being taken seriously? More words? More perfectly crafted statements to preserve the moral sanctitude of liberals?

It's a bit arrogant of micro-sectarians to feel that they have the right to be the judge and jury of anything and everything in the entire world and puff up with indignation when leftists in other countries don't act according to their wishes.

[Fred]

Well, defense, let's talk about that.

See, if the international left organized a revolutionary defense of the Syrian communists, then maybe they'd have room to criticize and articulate an independent position on what needs to be done to safeguard the Syrian left. As it is, the only group to offer the Syrian communists any material assistance in the matters of defense is the Syrian government and perhaps some allied YPG militia groups.

What does the Western left offer the Syrian communists in terms of defense against the groups that want to wipe them out? What has the Western left done for the Syrian communists to warrant being taken seriously? More words? More perfectly crafted statements to preserve the moral sanctitude of liberals?

It's a bit arrogant of micro-sectarians to feel that they have the right to be the judge and jury of anything and everything in the entire world and puff up with indignation when leftists in other countries don't act according to their wishes.
Okay, it is a bit arrogant. But according to folks like Marx, Lenin, and Trotsky, program is key. And the program that allows the Communists in Syria to politically support the Assad regime is the same one that means they are more likely to impede than lead a revolution. This is a lesson from history, comrade, not arrogant claptrap. I'm not interested who is more embattled or morally superior -- I want the working class to win. Presumably, you do too.

It might be foolish to believe that Syrian leftists would pay any attention to the various left grouplets that exist outside of Syria. And one of the problems of the tiny size of the far left internationally is that it lacks, for the most part, material resources to send meaningful military aid to embattled militants. But the events in Syria will have consequences in the wider world. It is appropriate for communists to have a position on it.

[hashem]

You support the Afghan Maoists who got themselves tortured and hacked to pieces by their takfiri mujahideen bedmates.

Islamist popular front, guys!
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Afghanistan_Liberation_Organization
Is committing suicide still considered a revolutionary act?

not all of Afghan communists were in ALO. there were organizations and activists who didnt cooperated with islamists. even in the particular case of ALO, a wrong tactic is entirely different from a counter revolutionary strategy which khalq or Parcham factions pursued.

besides, i cant see how mistakes of an Afghan organization justifies counter revolutionary policy of Syrian "communist" sects.

[hashem]

Well, defense, let's talk about that.

See, if the international left organized a revolutionary defense of the Syrian communists, then maybe they'd have room to criticize and articulate an independent position on what needs to be done to safeguard the Syrian left. As it is, the only group to offer the Syrian communists any material assistance in the matters of defense is the Syrian government and perhaps some allied YPG militia groups.

What does the Western left offer the Syrian communists in terms of defense against the groups that want to wipe them out? What has the Western left done for the Syrian communists to warrant being taken seriously? More words? More perfectly crafted statements to preserve the moral sanctitude of liberals?

It's a bit arrogant of micro-sectarians to feel that they have the right to be the judge and jury of anything and everything in the entire world and puff up with indignation when leftists in other countries don't act according to their wishes.

why should the international left organize a revolutionary defense of the Syrian "communist"s? they are not representing interests of workers. if they had significant support among the huge masses of workers and toilers, they didnt needed foreign aid at all. Syrian "communist"s were supporters of the government had their chance to "criticize and articulate an independent position" before the war but they only served their counter revolutionary and criminal master. Syrian government isnt the only group which can offer "material assistance in the matters of defense" to Syrian "communist"s. foreign imperialists have better military hardware and more money and are willing to offer it to any group which follows them regardless of it being a "communist" or not. the examples of Iraqi, Iranian, Afghan, Cyprian or ... "communist"s are enough. if we disregard an independent proletarian position as the main standard of judgment about the left and follow your line of argument to the end, a logical policy for Syrian "communist"s would be serving the islamists and their masters. and that is not a weird thing. Iranian "brothers" of Syrian "communist"s are doing that for years.

Syrian "communist"s have already wiped out communism and their destruction by islamists is not more tragic than vice versa.

[Misericordia]

not all of Afghan communists were in ALO. there were organizations and activists who didnt cooperated with islamists. even in the particular case of ALO, a wrong tactic is entirely different from a counter revolutionary strategy which khalq or Parcham factions pursued.

besides, i cant see how mistakes of an Afghan organization justifies counter revolutionary policy of Syrian "communist" sects.
In a nutshell: selling out to the Mudjahideen, created by the CIA and sheltered by the reactionary capitalist government of Pakistan, and then getting slaughtered for your efforts by your new-found Jihadi allies, is a simple matter of wrong tactics?

Perhaps the underlying problem was the fact that Afghan Maoists were political prostitutes. That they sold out to the Mujahideen was only a symptom of a disease they suffered from, called opportunism.

[Fred]

why should the international left organize a revolutionary defense of the Syrian "communist"s? they are not representing interests of workers. if they had significant support among the huge masses of workers and toilers, they didnt needed foreign aid at all. Syrian "communist"s were supporters of the government had their chance to "criticize and articulate an independent position" before the war but they only served their counter revolutionary and criminal master. Syrian government isnt the only group which can offer "material assistance in the matters of defense" to Syrian "communist"s. foreign imperialists have better military hardware and more money and are willing to offer it to any group which follows them regardless of it being a "communist" or not. the examples of Iraqi, Iranian, Afghan, Cyprian or ... "communist"s are enough. if we disregard an independent proletarian position as the main standard of judgment about the left and follow your line of argument to the end, a logical policy for Syrian "communist"s would be serving the islamists and their masters. and that is not a weird thing. Iranian "brothers" of Syrian "communist"s are doing that for years.

Syrian "communist"s have already wiped out communism and their destruction by islamists is not more tragic than vice versa.
Communists defend leftists from attack, period. There is no qualification -- well your program is reformist so the state should crush you. Unless you make a convincing argument that these parties in Syria are bourgeois parties. For example, when the CPUSA was under attack by the US government after WWII, the SWP defended them -- even though the CP had a wretchedly reformist program. Why? For one thing, the bourgeoisie doesn't make a fine distinctions between the left -- so an attack on one is an attack on all. Oh, I guess that is just a reworking of the old labor militant credo: An injury to one is an injury to all.

[hashem]

Communists defend leftists from attack, period. There is no qualification -- well your program is reformist so the state should crush you. Unless you make a convincing argument that these parties in Syria are bourgeois parties. For example, when the CPUSA was under attack by the US government after WWII, the SWP defended them -- even though the CP had a wretchedly reformist program. Why? For one thing, the bourgeoisie doesn't make a fine distinctions between the left -- so an attack on one is an attack on all. Oh, I guess that is just a reworking of the old labor militant credo: An injury to one is an injury to all.

Syrian "communist" sects are not innocents who are being attacked. they have supported baath government and its crimes. they are not reformists but servants of a fascist state. current situation is a result of their policy. sure, islamists are reactionaries, but supporting a regime which has nurtured islamism within itself until it has grown into a large and armed opposition is not the way of getting rid of islamism.

[hashem]

In a nutshell: selling out to the Mudjahideen, created by the CIA and sheltered by the reactionary capitalist government of Pakistan, and then getting slaughtered for your efforts by your new-found Jihadi allies, is a simple matter of wrong tactics?

Perhaps the underlying problem was the fact that Afghan Maoists were political prostitutes. That they sold out to the Mujahideen was only a symptom of a disease they suffered from, called opportunism.

the fact that ALO was betrayed by islamists proves that they had different strategical aims. as i said before ALO didnt represented all of Afghan communists. ALO was suffering from opportunism and there were organizations and activists who criticized it and stayed independent of both USSR and islamists. besides, what makes KGB better than CIA or vice versa? if someone cooperates with CIA agents for some definite tactical purpose but is later betrayed by them, he is a prostitute but if someone unconditionally serves KGB he is not a prostitute?!

[Misericordia]

the fact that ALO was betrayed by islamists proves that they had different strategical aims. as i said before ALO didnt represented all of Afghan communists. ALO was suffering from opportunism and there were organizations and activists who criticized it and stayed independent of both USSR and islamists. besides, what makes CIA better than KGB? if someone cooperates with CIA agents for some definite tactical purpose but is later betrayed by them, he is a prostitute but if someone unconditionally serves KGB he is not a prostitute?!
Because you apparently suffer from a mental disease called Maoism I will indulge you and explain to you the differences between the CIA and the KGB, in a concise manner because I assume people with your condition("Maoism") have short attention spans.

The CIA is an organ of a reactionary capitalist imperialist power(in fact, the biggest and most influential imperialist power in human history). It overthrows democratically elected popular governments, it arms and trains death squads that torture communists, trade unionists, liberation theologists and the like to death.

The KGB was an organ of a communist state, the first one in history. It supported anti-imperialist anti-racist struggles, it supported all kinds of communist national-liberation movements in the third world, it advanced the cause of communism and the cause of the proletariat and the peasantry over the entire globe.

Is that clear enough?

[hashem]

Because you apparently suffer from a mental disease called Maoism I will indulge you and explain to you the differences between the CIA and the KGB, in a concise manner because I assume people with your condition("Maoism") have short attention spans.

The CIA is an organ of a reactionary capitalist imperialist power(in fact, the biggest and most influential imperialist power in human history). It overthrows democratically elected popular governments, it arms and trains death squads that torture communists, trade unionists, liberation theologists and the like to death.

The KGB was an organ of a communist state, the first one in history. It supported anti-imperialist anti-racist struggles, it supported all kinds of communist national-liberation movements in the third world, it advanced the cause of communism and the cause of the proletariat and the peasantry over the entire globe.

Is that clear enough?

you are apparently suffering from a disease called revisionism and distortion of history.

the debate about bourgeois and imperialist nature of USSR was done in 1960s. if you are unaware of those arguments, you can refer to newspapers and books of that time.

KGB didnt supported anti imperialist struggles. dont you know that KGB agents in Iran (Tudeh party and organizattion of Fadaian(majority)) followed the same line that which are accusing ALO for it? the difference between ALO and Iranian agents of KGB (who participated directly in suppression of true communists) is that ALO stopped cooperating with islamists after it was betrayed but Iranian agents of KGB supported islamists after their members were tortured and killed and are still doing so. USSR supported both Pahlavis and islamists in Iran, which put it on the reactionary side.

after USSR became an imperialist country, it only cared for its own interests (to be exact: its ruling class interests) and supported bourgeoisie dictatorships whenever its anti proletarian interests demanded it.

[Fred]

you are apparently suffering from a disease called revisionism and distortion of history.

the debate about bourgeois and imperialist nature of USSR was done in 1960s. if you are unaware of those arguments, you can refer to newspapers and books of that time.

KGB didnt supported anti imperialist struggles. dont you know that KGB agents in Iran (Tudeh party and organizattion of Fadaian(majority)) followed the same line that which are accusing ALO for it? the difference between ALO and Iranian agents of KGB (who participated directly in suppression of true communists) is that ALO stopped cooperating with islamists after it was betrayed but Iranian agents of KGB supported islamists after their members were tortured and killed and are still doing so. USSR supported both Pahlavis and islamists in Iran, which put it on the reactionary side.

after USSR became an imperialist country, it only cared for its own interests (to be exact: its ruling class interests) and supported bourgeoisie dictatorships whenever its anti proletarian interests demanded it.

The debate about the class nature of the USSR was done in the 1960s? Because in your idealistic Maoist splendor you declare it so? The USSR played a contradictory role in world affairs, supporting reactionary regimes in some cases, yes, but also providing strong material support to the Cuban and Vietnamese Revolutions. The USSR was also on the RIGHT side in Afghanistan -- Fighting the cutthroat reactionary mullahs while you were probably hailing them as "freedom fighters" along with the CIA.

As for Syria, if these parties are actually a wing of the Baathists, then they are not in the workers movement and should get no defense, let alone political support. But given your befuddled analysis of the USSR and your dismissal of the Tudeh as simply KGB agents, I would not take your word for it.

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As for Syria, if these parties are actually a wing of the Baathists, then they are not in the workers movement and should get no defense, let alone political support. But given your befuddled analysis of the USSR and your dismissal of the Tudeh as simply KGB agents, I would not take your word for it.

I don’t expect you to take my word for anything. You can do a quick search on internet. Syrian “communist” parties (Bakdash and Faisal factions) and other minor “socialist” sects are members of “National progressive front” which is lead by Baath party. Syria’s constitution gives some legal privileges to Baath party which makes it the ruling party (regardless of so called “election”s) and reduces other parties to curtains or servants of its dictatorship. Any party which participates or supports this system is reactionary and servant of Assad’s dictatorship.

True communists of Syria have struggled against the Baath regime for decades before the present war.

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Communists defend leftists from attack, period. There is no qualification -- well your program is reformist so the state should crush you. Unless you make a convincing argument that these parties in Syria are bourgeois parties. For example, when the CPUSA was under attack by the US government after WWII, the SWP defended them -- even though the CP had a wretchedly reformist program. Why? For one thing, the bourgeoisie doesn't make a fine distinctions between the left -- so an attack on one is an attack on all. Oh, I guess that is just a reworking of the old labor militant credo: An injury to one is an injury to all.

Well here's the thing, these parties are bourgeois. The Syrian Communist Party participates in a bourgeois government. Except they have the pretentions of being "communist". Their role for communism is counter productive, therefore we shouldn't shed a tear for their deaths. If anything we ought to laugh at them as they get what they deserve and celebrate their demise. If I might quote Trotsky since many people here hold him in high esteem:


As for us, we were never concerned with the Kantian-priestly and vegetarian-Quaker prattle about the “sacredness of human life.” We were revolutionaries in opposition, and have remained revolutionaries in power. To make the individual sacred we must destroy the social order which crucifies him. And this problem can only be solved by blood and iron.

~Leon Trotsky, Terrorism and Communism, chapter 4

If I might go farther, the problem with the Syrian revolution is not its bloodshed, it is the unfortunate problem that it happens to be carried out by the Islamists. If it was a entirely secular revolt I would support it and critique it not for its violence but for not being violent enough to the regime and its sympathizers. After all, the radicalism of the progressive bourgeois is proved by its blood lust and not by its superfluous social contracts and its long winded volumes of political economy.