Some FSA claim Saudis behind chemical attacks

[khad]

So many angles and complications to this story emerging.

http://www.mintpressnews.com/witnesses-of-gas-attack-say-saudis-supplied-rebels-with-chemical-weapons/168135/


However, from numerous interviews with doctors, Ghouta residents, rebel fighters and their families, a different picture emerges. Many believe that certain rebels received chemical weapons via the Saudi intelligence chief, Prince Bandar bin Sultan, and were responsible for carrying out the dealing gas attack.

“My son came to me two weeks ago asking what I thought the weapons were that he had been asked to carry,” said Abu Abdel-Moneim, the father of a rebel fighting to unseat Assad, who lives in Ghouta.

Abdel-Moneim said his son and 12 other rebels were killed inside of a tunnel used to store weapons provided by a Saudi militant, known as Abu Ayesha, who was leading a fighting battalion. The father described the weapons as having a “tube-like structure” while others were like a “huge gas bottle.”

Ghouta townspeople said the rebels were using mosques and private houses to sleep while storing their weapons in tunnels.

Abdel-Moneim said his son and the others died during the chemical weapons attack. That same day, the militant group Jabhat al-Nusra, which is linked to al-Qaida, announced that it would similarly attack civilians in the Assad regime’s heartland of Latakia on Syria’s western coast, in purported retaliation.

“They didn’t tell us what these arms were or how to use them,” complained a female fighter named ‘K.’ “We didn’t know they were chemical weapons. We never imagined they were chemical weapons.”

“When Saudi Prince Bandar gives such weapons to people, he must give them to those who know how to handle and use them,” she warned. She, like other Syrians, do not want to use their full names for fear of retribution.

A well-known rebel leader in Ghouta named ‘J’ agreed. “Jabhat al-Nusra militants do not cooperate with other rebels, except with fighting on the ground. They do not share secret information. They merely used some ordinary rebels to carry and operate this material,” he said.

“We were very curious about these arms. And unfortunately, some of the fighters handled the weapons improperly and set off the explosions,” ‘J’ said.

[Lenina Rosenweg]

Turkish security forces found a 2kg cylinder with sarin gas after searching the homes of Syrian militants from the Al-Qaeda linked Al-Nusra Front who were previously detained, Turkish media reports. The gas was reportedly going to be used in a bomb......

US President Barack Obama has warned any confirmed use of chemical weapons by Damascus would cross a "red line" which would prompt further action. Both Washington and London claimed there was growing evidence that such chemical agents had been used.

Less clear perhaps is whether a similar red line would apply to Syrian opposition groups such as Al-Nusra by the US and NATO allies. Author and historian Gerald Horne, for one, told RT that there are greater political dynamics at work.





http://rt.com/news/sarin-gas-turkey-al-nusra-021/

[adipocere]

So many angles and complications to this story emerging.

It doesn't count if the rebels do it and it will keep happening until it is done professionally enough to pin on Assad.

[Proteus2]

This side used chemical weapons, that side used them, they are terrorists and such and such are freedom fighters. Its just another power struggle played out over the corpses of the population with the hypocrite western saviors making the tragedy a farce. Until we rid ourselves of this US controlled international system we will not soon see the end of such horrors.

[Teacher]

http://www.mintpressnews.com/witnesses-of-gas-attack-say-saudis-supplied-rebels-with-chemical-weapons/168135/

This is not a source I am familiar with but one of the reporters listed as authors has done work for AP. They definitely seem more legitimate than WorldNetDaily and some of the other outlets claiming the rebels were behind the attack.

[adipocere]

I believe this same article was posted earlier here (http://www.revleft.com/vb/some-fsa-claim-t182967/index.html)

[Teacher]

My mistake, didn't see it

[greenforest]

That's quite the scoop.

A well known rebel leader? Of which brigade? Perhaps that would reveal his identity, but what about rebel members from named groups?

Certainly the journalists could have found rebels beside rebel leaders in which a group's name is given.

And they didn't believe the missiles contained Sarin but fired all twenty-one rockets at heavily rebel held areas? Not one rocket has yet to have been fired at a government held region? And how did the Saudis know the rebels wouldn't fire these rockets at regime held positions?

Quite a scoop.

[Sasha]

Not to mention that sarin degrades really fast, while its probable some rebels could build an Tokyo style attack chemical "bomb" (in short; leaking packages) I doubt they have the means to build rockets or shells that can deliver it without burning away on impact.
If al-Qaeda had that technology we would have seen it used in Iraq and Yemen already, the rest is to disorganised and would need a nationstate military behind them.
While I have no illusions about either turkey or saoudi-arabia they, in contrast to Syria, did raticify the chemicalwarfare treaties, the cost would be very high for them to risk an operation like this. At least the Turkish government wouldn't survive it if it came out.
If it is "staged" they bought off an Syrian army commander to go behind the regimes back.

[adipocere]

If it is "staged" they bought off an Syrian army commander to go behind the regimes back.

Why? The al-Nusra rebels captured a saudi (http://english.ahram.org.eg/NewsContent/2/8/60077/World/Region/Syria-warns-terror-groups-may-use-chemical-arms.aspx)chemical plant. The Syrian army keeps finding stashes of Saudi chemicals (http://rt.com/news/damascus-syria-chemical-weapons-082/). The rebels have done it before (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-middle-east-22424188). There are thousands of CIA and special ops running around there providing them with training and weapons. (http://articles.latimes.com/2013/jun/21/world/la-fg-wn-cia-syria-20130621) These CIA and special ops are fucking monsters that wouldn't hesitate to allow, enable, train and supply others to commit atrocities if it gave them some advantage.


If al-Qaeda had that technology we would have seen it used in Iraq and Yemen already, the rest is to disorganised and would need a nationstate military behind them.
Al-Qaeda gets that technology when it's allies think it is useful.
In Syria, more than one nationstate military is behind them - having them disorganized is the point. The US and it's allies don't want them taking power. They are being used to destabilize and weaken the Syrain government. They are tools.




(http://articles.latimes.com/2013/jun/21/world/la-fg-wn-cia-syria-20130621)

[Rafiq]

Not to mention that sarin degrades really fast, while its probable some rebels could build an Tokyo style attack chemical "bomb" (in short; leaking packages) I doubt they have the means to build rockets or shells that can deliver it without burning away on impact.
If al-Qaeda had that technology we would have seen it used in Iraq and Yemen already, the rest is to disorganised and would need a nationstate military behind them.
While I have no illusions about either turkey or saoudi-arabia they, in contrast to Syria, did raticify the chemicalwarfare treaties, the cost would be very high for them to risk an operation like this. At least the Turkish government wouldn't survive it if it came out.
If it is "staged" they bought off an Syrian army commander to go behind the regimes back.

But wouldn't you agree the rebels would have had more of an incentive to get their hands on chemical weapons with regards to the situation than they would for actual military purposes in Iraq and Yemen? Also, Al queda is not a homogeneous group, plus, militants in places like Yemen and Iraq don't have nearly the same amount of support (and therefore power) that Syrian islamists do.

[ckaihatsu]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hk35suofbYQ


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