Originally posted by Bolshevi
[email protected] 13 2004, 09:09 PM
Lucid: Of course the USA looks good compared to a third world country like Cuba. It is utterly ridiculous to compare Cuba with the USA, USA is an industrialized, global, military superpower that makes trillions of dollars in foreign trade (the prince of Saudi Arabia has almost a trillion dollars invested in the American stock market for example) and wars.
To really appreciate Cuba we should compare it to other countries in its situation. Haiti for example, which is about in the same situation as Cuba, has billions of dollars dropped into it through foreign aide, and has complete and open trade with U.S. and other western capitalist countries, is a complete disaster.
If Haitians had to chose, do you think they would live in capitalist Haiti or Cuba? What about Dominicans.
Let me tell you something, the reason many Cubans here make a lot of money almost immediatly is because of the excellent education (which human rights groups call one of the best) they receive in Cuba, for free. If it weren't for that they would be living in the projects like the other immigrants who come from capitalist countries (especially Mexico and Puerto Rico).
Yes, your right about comparing the USA and Cuba. Lets compare Cuba and taiwan or cuba and israel or cuba and hong kong, or cuba and ireland.
But we could compare the USA to the USSR. And the USSR failed.
Haiti is fcked up, I saw a report on the vodoo shit they do. THAT was fcked up, I saw it on the discovery channel. As far as calling haiti capitalist? do you know what type of policies they have? i doubt that they have a free market style economy. Just because a country is not caommunist does not mean they are capitalist. Most countries are "social-democratico" (i dont know what its called in english) anyway, its where the gov. regualtes the market. For example it takes 1 day to get all the paper work done in teh USA to open a bussines, i think in australia it also takes like half a day. But in places like brasil it takes like 3 months, or in my country like 3 weeks just to get the paper work done. and you have to pay all these stupid fees and taxes. that is not capitalism.
I make the same argumetn with mexic. and PR is better of than Cuba, I know a person that has been to both countries.
Many cubans here make alot of money?? some do yes, but not all, have you been to Miami?
Good education compared to public schools from latin america, but one thing about the schools in cuba(and you could make the argumetnt that this also happens in the USA) is that since the gov. controls education, they control what the cubans learn.
I know this cuban, who was told lies about world events and how things happened, it is very very very very very biased.
They are also told lies about the places they are going to, I know that doctors that are sent from cuba to my country are almost impressed when they see the city, they didnt expect to see all those cars and buildings and restaurants... . why do you think internet acces is so regulated in Cuba.,so cubans dont find out how life outside of cuba really is, why would many cubans leave if its so great? dont tell me "people leave mexico also" yes mexico also sucks, but we are talking about Cuba.