Anarchists say they started fire at Portishead police gun centre

[Dennis the 'Bloody Peasant']

Thoughts? Interesting name choice...:rolleyes:


An anarchist group has claimed it started a fire which ripped through a police firearms training centre being built in Somerset.
A passing officer spotted the blaze at the Black Rock centre in Portishead in the early hours of Tuesday.
In a post on the Bristol Indymedia website, the group, called "Angry Foxes Cell", says it "used accelerant to burn the major electrical cables".
Police said they would be making a statement later about the claims.
The group said in the post that its members targeted the construction site on Monday night, leaving it with "flames licking high".
The group said it "puts smiles on our faces to realise how easy it was" to target the building.
The statement goes on to claim that the group also slashed tyres and poured paint stripper on two vehicles in Bristol - one belonging to the security company G4S and the other to GEOAmey, a firm that transports prisoners.
The post concludes by saying the "night of action coincides with the announced start of the planned cull of wild badgers in the south-west of England".
"Through attempting to facilitate the cull and stop resistance the police shore up the interests of agricultural industry and the land-owning classes.
"We hope this will be one of many rebellions against this slaughter."
The final sentence says: "The struggle will continue until all are wild and free."

(BBC News - Full article here - http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-somerset-23861098)

[ANTIFA GATE-9]

Nice,kinda weird name:grin: but I get where it comes from.
Are they real anarchists though cause i couldn't find any previous stuff they have done(maybe they are new).do they have a website or something with more info about them?

[GiantMonkeyMan]

Nice,kinda weird name:grin: but I get where it comes from.
Are they real anarchists though cause i couldn't find any previous stuff they have done(maybe they are new).do they have a website or something with more info about them?
Generally these kind of groups change names/locations frequently to avoid reprisals of the state. I very much doubt they'd have a website.

[ANTIFA GATE-9]

Generally these kind of groups change names/locations frequently to avoid reprisals of the state. I very much doubt they'd have a website.

Ok thanks

[bcbm]

heh heh good one

[Futility Personified]

Glory to the badger's republic of the west country! But good on them.

[human strike]

Nice,kinda weird name:grin: but I get where it comes from.
Are they real anarchists though cause i couldn't find any previous stuff they have done(maybe they are new).do they have a website or something with more info about them?

Channel 4 News have helpfully collated and documented everything: http://www.channel4.com/news/informal-anarchist-federation-bristol-arson-attack-anarchist

Statement posted on Indymedia: http://bristol.indymedia.org/article/766066

Oh, and this very amusing article where cops describe their "heartbreak": http://www.thisisbristol.co.uk/Heartbreak-guts-police-gun-training-base/story-19715713-detail/story.html

[human strike]

Barclays bank firebombed in Bristol - statement and reflection by a FAI group: http://bristol.indymedia.org/article/766092

[The Garbage Disposal Unit]

Channel 4 News have helpfully collated and documented everything: http://www.channel4.com/news/informal-anarchist-federation-bristol-arson-attack-anarchist

Statement posted on Indymedia: http://bristol.indymedia.org/article/766066

Oh, and this very amusing article where cops describe their "heartbreak": http://www.thisisbristol.co.uk/Heartbreak-guts-police-gun-training-base/story-19715713-detail/story.html


"The similarly named Anarchist Federation has distanced itself from the actions, along with other left groups, calling the IAF "elitist" and denouncing their violent tactics."

Goddamn I hate this shit - same shitty response came out of Common Cause (http://www.revleft.com/vb/linchpin.ca) when the FFFC firebombed a Royal Bank of Canada in Ottawa. It's like, for fucks sake, 1) why do you need to talk to the bourgeois media about your opinion of other anarchists, and 2) playing into divide and conquer much? Fuck that shit.

[human strike]

"The similarly named Anarchist Federation has distanced itself from the actions, along with other left groups, calling the IAF "elitist" and denouncing their violent tactics."

Goddamn I hate this shit - same shitty response came out of Common Cause (http://www.revleft.com/vb/linchpin.ca) when the FFFC firebombed a Royal Bank of Canada in Ottawa. It's like, for fucks sake, 1) why do you need to talk to the bourgeois media about your opinion of other anarchists, and 2) playing into divide and conquer much? Fuck that shit.

Bristol Anarchist Federation talk to local news media quite a lot. In fairness, they may have just taken that statement from their website or something, but yeah I still agree with you on your second point.

[Ele'ill]

I like the name.

[human strike]

Ya know, I think that Channel 4 article is wrong to imply that all these acts were carried out by the same people.

[bcbm]

"The similarly named Anarchist Federation has distanced itself from the actions, along with other left groups, calling the IAF "elitist" and denouncing their violent tactics."

Goddamn I hate this shit - same shitty response came out of Common Cause (http://www.revleft.com/vb/linchpin.ca) when the FFFC firebombed a Royal Bank of Canada in Ottawa. It's like, for fucks sake, 1) why do you need to talk to the bourgeois media about your opinion of other anarchists, and 2) playing into divide and conquer much? Fuck that shit.

its good to keep note of this for future reference though. they are showing which side they are on

[Anglo-Saxon Philistine]

"The similarly named Anarchist Federation has distanced itself from the actions, along with other left groups, calling the IAF "elitist" and denouncing their violent tactics."

Goddamn I hate this shit - same shitty response came out of Common Cause (http://www.revleft.com/vb/linchpin.ca) when the FFFC firebombed a Royal Bank of Canada in Ottawa. It's like, for fucks sake, 1) why do you need to talk to the bourgeois media about your opinion of other anarchists, and 2) playing into divide and conquer much? Fuck that shit.

Well cops are workers don't you know if they don't have guns how are they supposed to protect us from the darkies I mean from criminals.

[Os Cangaceiros]

"The similarly named Anarchist Federation has distanced itself from the actions, along with other left groups, calling the IAF "elitist" and denouncing their violent tactics."

Goddamn I hate this shit - same shitty response came out of Common Cause (http://www.revleft.com/vb/linchpin.ca) when the FFFC firebombed a Royal Bank of Canada in Ottawa. It's like, for fucks sake, 1) why do you need to talk to the bourgeois media about your opinion of other anarchists, and 2) playing into divide and conquer much? Fuck that shit.

Well the last action I remember the UK Anarchist Federation condemning of the FAI's was a parcel bombing that injured a postal worker in Italy. A moronic action perfectly worthy of being denounced, in my opinion (as if powerful people open their own mail). What made it worse was that the FAI basically doubled down and, in the absence of saying that perhaps the operation could've been a bit better thought out, basically said that some anonymous postal worker deserved everything he got.

[Sasha]

"The similarly named Anarchist Federation has distanced itself from the actions, along with other left groups, calling the IAF "elitist" and denouncing their violent tactics."

Goddamn I hate this shit - same shitty response came out of Common Cause (http://www.revleft.com/vb/linchpin.ca) when the FFFC firebombed a Royal Bank of Canada in Ottawa. It's like, for fucks sake, 1) why do you need to talk to the bourgeois media about your opinion of other anarchists, and 2) playing into divide and conquer much? Fuck that shit.


Well the last action I remember the UK Anarchist Federation condemning of the FAI's was a parcel bombing that injured a postal worker in Italy. A moronic action perfectly worthy of being denounced, in my opinion (as if powerful people open their own mail). What made it worse was that the FAI basically doubled down and, in the absence of saying that perhaps the operation could've been a bit better thought out, basically said that some anonymous postal worker deserved everything he got.


i think this is actually not about the british AF but a sloppy reference about the long running/quite populair italian synthesist IAF (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Italian_Anarchist_Federation) who kind of rightly said it was a bit fucked up thing to nick their acronym.
before the greeks etc "joined" the insurecto IAF was only a shady italian outfit pulling some pretty suspect shit and as such they where denouced as a probable falseflag/state project by the long established IAF.

[Os Cangaceiros]

Looks like I was wrong about the incident that prompted the UK AF to make a statement, anyway...

http://www.afed.org.uk/blog/state/303-statement-on-the-informal-anarchist-federation-and-terrorist-tactics.html

[bcbm]

i don't think these things have any business being openly discussed outside the movement.

[Os Cangaceiros]

What things? The particular methods employed by revolutionary groups?

[Comrade Jacob]

Good for them. :thumbup1:

[bcbm]

What things? The particular methods employed by revolutionary groups?

more or less, but specifically the condemnations, etc. i don't think there is any need to do a press release condemning other groups and their actions, especially if their only relation to you is the word 'anarchist.'

[Art Vandelay]

i don't think these things have any business being openly discussed outside the movement.

This. I mean I could really care less what kind of polemics are taking place in the insurrecto world right now, but totally this. Who the fuck turns to the bourgeois media to condemn fellow revolutionaries, regardless of whether or not you disagree with them. Despicable.

[Os Cangaceiros]

more or less, but specifically the condemnations, etc. i don't think there is any need to do a press release condemning other groups and their actions, especially if their only relation to you is the word 'anarchist.'

I don't think that other revolutionary groups should be denouncing the acts to the establishment, but I definitely do think that they're open to criticism, generally speaking. When you go out in the public sphere, commit an act & then attempt to justify that act in accordance with your political beliefs, I think you automatically open yourself up to scrutiny...but with that being said I'm not sure why the UK AF thought it was necessary to publish an official statement etc

[bcbm]

I don't think that other revolutionary groups should be denouncing the acts to the establishment, but I definitely do think that they're open to criticism, generally speaking. When you go out in the public sphere, commit an act & then attempt to justify that act in accordance with your political beliefs, I think you automatically open yourself up to scrutiny...but with that being said I'm not sure why the UK AF thought it was necessary to publish an official statement etc

i am not opposed to criticism, i just don't think public statements are the place for it. like i said, keep it in the movement. if you want to generally state position against violence or adventurism or whatever, fine. but i don't see anything positive about talking shit in public. or rather, i see why they might but i think that is part of the problem.