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Glitchcraft
26th August 2013, 02:37
I'm working on a data base of currently active groups. I want to log their calls and positions into a sortable data base. I'm only going with socialist groups, even if that description is laughable.

But if anyone has the time and inclination could you suggest what groups are missing. It keeps getting longer and I keep going "omg I forgot about them" but I’m starting to draw a blank. Who else is active in the US?

Communist Party USA (CPUSA)
Freedom Road Socialist Organisation (FRSO
Freedom Road Socialist Organisation (FRSO) the other one.
International Socialist Organisarion (ISO)
Internationalist Group (IG)
Party for Socialism & Liberation (PSL)
Progressive Labor Party (PL)
Revolutionary Communist Party (RCP)
Socialist Action
Socialist Alternative (SAlt)
Socialist Equality Party (SEP)
Socialist Labor Party (SLP)
Socialist Worker Organisation (SWO)
Socialist Workers Party (SWP)
Socialist Party USA (SP)
Spark
Spartacist League (SL)
Trotskyist League US
Workers Action (WA)
Workers Party of America (WPA)
Workers Power (WP)
World Socialist Party (US)
Workers World Party (WWP)

Os Cangaceiros
26th August 2013, 10:21
Revolutionary Communist Party (RCP)
Ray O. Light group
CPUSA-Provisional (<----crazy left-wing cult group)

The Idler
26th August 2013, 11:38
Have you got all the ones here?
http://eng.anarchopedia.org/list_of_Left-Wing_Parties_in_the_United_States_of_America
and
all those contained in the External links section?
If you ask on certain Yahoo! groups, there are those who would argue the Socialist Labor Party is still active.
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/deleonism-list/
and
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/deleonism/

Flying Purple People Eater
26th August 2013, 11:54
There's the red guard in Japan, which is more of a fascist group than leftist.

They're basically racist Japanese ultranationalists who have a hard-on for the DPRK. They've been involved in a lot of racial attacks and chemical bombings. I wouldn't even mention them except for the fact that I see a lot of parallels with them and the nutters on here who love dear leader KJU.

Edit: Whoops, sorry. I thought you meant missing in its' most literal sense.

The Idler
26th August 2013, 13:57
Plus the OP asked who is active in the US.

Flying Purple People Eater
26th August 2013, 14:08
Plus the OP asked who is active in the US.

Sorry. I suffer from a bad case of 'responds to thread titles' syndrome.

Anglo-Saxon Philistine
26th August 2013, 18:58
International Bolshevik Tendency
Solidarity (subsumed Workers' Power)
League for the Revolutionary Party
Voice of the Workers (could be dead)

Lenina Rosenweg
26th August 2013, 19:40
Revolutionary Communist Party (RCP)
Ray O. Light group
CPUSA-Provisional (<----crazy left-wing cult group)

Ray O' Light changed their name a few years ago,not sure what its been changed to.

Kasama Project is a post-Maoist regroupment project led by Mike Ely and veterans of the RCP.

Committee of Correspondence, group led by Angela Davis, kind of right split from CPUSA, I think.

There are several very recent left splits from the CPUSA, the Communist Party of Oklahoma among them. I'm not sure of the relationship of the organisations.

Socialist Appeal (US IMT)

There are at least two Hoxhaist outfits in the US, one based in NYC and the other based in Canada (?), the North American Hoxhaist Union? Ismail and Prarie Fire would know more about this.

Prarie Fire organizing Committee-I guess they are still around. Decsendant of the above ground fraction of the Weather Underground.

Not sure if one could regard the DSA as really socialist. There are a few funky extreme right Shachtmanite groups-the Social Democratic Party US, one in Pennsylvania, one in NYC.

RUG, a left split from the SP, don't know much about them.

These guys might be helpful

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/leftist_trainspotters/

There is a section for US "family trees" of the left. Not sure how accurate

http://freedomroad.org/staticfiles/familytree/megatree.html


edit: We can't forget the now defunct but very funky Maoist International Movement, MIM. The current MTW group is the Leading Light Communist Organisation, not sure how big or extant.

International Communist Current I think has some members on the US East Coast.

Not sure if its been mentioned..the Socialist Equality Party SEP, who put out the World Socialist Website.

Popular Front of Judea
26th August 2013, 20:31
So what is the definition here of "active"? Regularly paying for the PO box -- or these days the web hosting?

"For where two or three gather together as my followers, I am there among them"

Os Cangaceiros
26th August 2013, 20:40
International Communist Current I think has some members on the US East Coast.


Saying that the ICC is active in the USA is a bit of a stretch, I think.

Similarly, last I checked the ICT maintained a PO Box somewhere in Indiana, but I wouldn't call them "active" in the USA either.

Glitchcraft
26th August 2013, 21:52
So what is the definition here of "active"? Regularly paying for the PO box -- or these days the web hosting?

"For where two or three gather together as my followers, I am there among them"

Preferably it would only be groups that are more active and out there doing things. More than just a website. I haven't really established a criteria but I'm open to suggestions.
I've been trying to error on the side of including them rather than overlooking them, they can always be deleted later.

Lenina Rosenweg
26th August 2013, 22:31
Two more I just thought of

The Freedom Socialist Party, a feminist-Trotskyist group HQed in Seattle. Fairly widespread now but originated from the Seattle branch of the SWP.

Red Orchid Collective. Not sure if they're anarchist or socialist.

Also Insurgent Notes. I think they are kind of a proto-group. Loren Goldner's stuff is interesting,not sure how highly organized they are.

SonofRage
26th August 2013, 23:18
We can't forget the now defunct but very funky Maoist International Movement, MIM. The current MTW group is the Leading Light Communist Organisation, not sure how big or extant

There's also MIM(Prisons):

http://prisoncensorship.info

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Tolstoy
27th August 2013, 00:52
Freedom Socialist Party

The Idler
27th August 2013, 09:42
Sorry. I suffer from a bad case of 'responds to thread titles' syndrome.
I assumed the same thing from the title.
To the OP, will this list be a public database?

Glitchcraft
27th August 2013, 12:54
I assumed the same thing from the title.
To the OP, will this list be a public database?

Absolutely, thats the whole point. To give people quick easy access to the positions of different groups. So you can decide for your self where you stand and see where you fit in.

SonofRage
27th August 2013, 13:07
Absolutely, thats the whole point. To give people quick easy access to the positions of different groups. So you can decide for your self where you stand and see where you fit in.

Is it going to just be something you search or are you making one of those quizzes that points you to your best match?

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Glitchcraft
27th August 2013, 19:13
Is it going to just be something you search or are you making one of those quizzes that points you to your best match?

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Yeah if had the time I'd make a whole choose your own adventure series but probably just going to be graphs. I think there should be more easy to digest ways of learning about groups than reading everything they ever wrote for years to see what they actually stand for.
I mostly work on it when I get burned out on reading or can't find other productive things to do.
As I've said in other threads, In most cases I would rather someone join any group than do nothing. I think a quick reference guide would help people make their own decisions. If you see that a group makes stances you don't like you won't have to waste time finding that out a year later. The problem I'm having right now is how to deal with groups saying one thing while doing another. As well as what stances to start with. I guess I'll just go on what they say.
I am totally open to any suggestions.

SonofRage
27th August 2013, 19:33
Yeah if had the time I'd make a whole choose your own adventure series but probably just going to be graphs.

If I had the time, I would help with that piece. One day maybe. At the very least it could be a fine programming project to do on the side.


I think there should be more easy to digest ways of learning about groups than reading everything they ever wrote for years to see what they actually stand for.

Agreed.


I mostly work on it when I get burned out on reading or can't find other productive things to do.
As I've said in other threads, In most cases I would rather someone join any group than do nothing. I think a quick reference guide would help people make their own decisions. If you see that a group makes stances you don't like you won't have to waste time finding that out a year later.

Oh how I wish I could get that time back!


The problem I'm having right now is how to deal with groups saying one thing while doing another. As well as what stances to start with. I guess I'll just go on what they say.
I am totally open to any suggestions.

I would say focus on the major line issues but at the same time you want to have something about the actual work that's happening because that's going to be something that people are going to care about. I think it's tough to balance the whole idea vs actions things but I tend to think that actions speak louder than words so the contradictions should be pointed out somewhere at least.

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The Idler
27th August 2013, 19:57
I actually did this on hunch.com a few years ago and it worked pretty well, but then they changed the site to make it more like pinterest. I get the impression its now flopped completely and they are trying to appeal to business not consumers directly.

PC LOAD LETTER
28th August 2013, 04:24
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There are at least two Hoxhaist outfits in the US, one based in NYC and the other based in Canada (?), the North American Hoxhaist Union? Ismail and Prarie Fire would know more about this.


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It's the American Party of Labor (http://americanpartyoflabor.org/)

Geiseric
14th September 2013, 03:16
Socialist Organizer is the U.S. branch of the 4th International (International Center of Reconstruction)

sixdollarchampagne
14th September 2013, 08:32
"Socialist Appeal" is the magazine of the US Grantist (IMT) group. The name of that group is the Workers International League. When I was a member, before the group became completely chavistas, the WIL was quite active, and I would bet that they still are. Just not here in the Deep South, where I live. They even have a "mass" project now, the Campaign for a Mass Party of Labor, or something like that, so they deserve a place on the active list.