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Demonarque
17th August 2013, 20:53
Hello guys. I'm Demonarque (Tribute to my favourite song) and I'm a former neo-nazi. I was a racist against the immigrants and non-whites, since I'm not even white (my mother is Half-black), this is just stupid. I definy myself now as a nihilist. Thank you!

Sasha
17th August 2013, 20:58
welcome i guess, if you are still very much into Peste Noire you still have a long way to go though if you dont mind me saying, maybe not neo-nazi's but certainly extreme nationalists and racists...

Skyhilist
17th August 2013, 21:07
welcome i guess, if you are still very much into Peste Noire you still have a long way to go though if you dont mind me saying, maybe not neo-nazi's but certainly extreme nationalists and racists...

Hey cut him a break, maybe he just likes the sound of black metal. I enjoy Mayhem's music but I certainly don't agree with the politics of Varg Vikernes and find his racism abhorrent.

Sasha
17th August 2013, 21:22
yeah, sorry, but as a (more or less former) skinhead i have little patience for fencesitters, maybe its better in MB but in OI there really isnt any "love the music, hate the message" if you dig a little deeper.
sure there are bands i kind of like yet abhor politically but they dont go beyond reactionary nationalist like condemned or the last resort, as soon as you cross into racism there is nothing appealing left (unless some kind of sado-masochism).

but enough about me, welcome agin, i hope you will be able to make a full switch to the good (but still dark) side. :)

Skyhilist
17th August 2013, 21:33
yeah, sorry, but as a (more or less former) skinhead i have little patience for fencesitters, maybe its better in MB but in OI there really isnt any "love the music, hate the message" if you dig a little deeper.
sure there are bands i kind of like yet abhor politically but they dont go beyond reactionary nationalist like condemned or the last resort, as soon as you cross into racism there is nothing appealing left (unless some kind of sado-masochism).

but enough about me, welcome agin, i hope you will be able to make a full switch to the good (but still dark) side. :)

I haven't really heard any Peste Noire lyrics though where they're being explicitly nationalist or anything like that. It has seemed to mainly just be in interviews and stuff, although perhaps it's just because I have a hard time understanding most of the lyrics to black metal songs (although depending on the band I might still enjoy listening to it).

Polaris
17th August 2013, 22:14
Welcome to RevLeft, I am glad you have seen the light.

Comrade Jacob
17th August 2013, 22:41
A Nihilist? Well...at least you aren't a Nazi any more.
Why are you on revleft again, are you a leftist?

RedBen
18th August 2013, 01:31
yeah, sorry, but as a (more or less former) skinhead i have little patience for fencesitters, maybe its better in MB but in OI there really isnt any "love the music, hate the message" if you dig a little deeper.
sure there are bands i kind of like yet abhor politically but they dont go beyond reactionary nationalist like condemned or the last resort, as soon as you cross into racism there is nothing appealing left (unless some kind of sado-masochism).

but enough about me, welcome agin, i hope you will be able to make a full switch to the good (but still dark) side. :)
i know minority anti racist skins who love wp music, never understood it. i know older black and mexican skins with massive wp record collections. same guys who ran the nazis out. i hate the shit myself and fence walkers piss me off too.

tachosomoza
18th August 2013, 01:40
Fence walkers need to fall on the fence and hit their gonads.

I'd watch this guy.

G4b3n
18th August 2013, 13:08
It seems to me that fascists who turn leftist just want to be involved in radical politics, they get their asses handed to them far too much in political debates as a fascist and figure "well fuck, let me try communism".

This is not always the case though, so if this does not include you then welcome!

Thirsty Crow
25th August 2013, 18:47
I enjoy Mayhem's music but I certainly don't agree with the politics of Varg Vikernes and find his racism abhorrent.
And Mayhem has something to do with Varg? Apart from sharing the same emergent scene and Euronymous being killed by the man, of course :D

TheEmancipator
25th August 2013, 19:54
Fence walkers need to fall on the fence and hit their gonads.

I'd watch this guy.

Antifascism doesn't just account to beating up fascists, but also discouraging other from adopting it.

Your internet jibes have probably pushed him closer on one side of the fence. He could be young and impressionable for all we know, and we've seen recently that some people take the internet seriously. I say we should make him feel welcome and see where his views lie on political position through his posting and general conduct, then engage in the kind of senseless labelism and abuse of the word "fascist" we have grown accustomed too.

Sasha
25th August 2013, 20:04
And Mayhem has something to do with Varg? Apart from sharing the same emergent scene and Euronymous being killed by the man, of course :D

Euh? Varg was in Mayhem and burnt churches with euronymous before he killed him.. he played on the first record..

JPSartre12
25th August 2013, 20:16
Welcome to revleft, comrade. What was it that inspired you to leave Naziism and join the far-left?

Rugged Collectivist
25th August 2013, 20:16
Nihilism? Say what you want about the tenets of national socialism, but at least it's an ethos.

(sorry, couldn't resist. Welcome to the board and congratulations. I sincerely hope you don't relapse.)

The Jay
25th August 2013, 20:34
Hi! What caused the change of heart?

Thirsty Crow
25th August 2013, 20:47
Euh? Varg was in Mayhem and burnt churches with euronymous before he killed him.. he played on the first record..
Well you got me there. It seems I tend to overemphasize what I see as important differences between the two men and bands, up to the point of forgetting actual facts :D

boiler
26th August 2013, 02:42
Hi and welcome comrade

Comrade Maddog
9th September 2013, 00:01
Welcome, I am new myself and it seems everyone on this board are very hospitable. I'm happy you've broken away from that trap, many white youths are very suseptible to that mode of thought, especially white youths who are going through a troubled time. If I may, what attracted you to nazi ideology in the first place? And second, what made you leave that ideology and embrace leftism?

RedCeltic
9th September 2013, 13:40
Getting your political ideology and beliefs from the music you listen to is stupid. As I know nothing about Nazi music I've no idea what Psycho is talking about, I really don't know, or understand that culture at all. I think there's alot of groupthink involved in racism. You're friends all sit around telling racist jokes, talk about how they hate immigrants and so forth, so you do too. Radical leftists tend to be open minded people and often I've heard them say on the internet they are the only anarchist, communist, socialist etc they know in their town, school. workplace etc... but out and out Nazis where there's one there's usually more... or some outside influence.

Comrade Sun Wukong
9th September 2013, 14:29
Hello guys. I'm Demonarque (Tribute to my favourite song) and I'm a former neo-nazi. I was a racist against the immigrants and non-whites, since I'm not even white (my mother is Half-black), this is just stupid. I definy myself now as a nihilist. Thank you!

The less "white" people are, the more there is a tendency to stress their "whiteness." This involves role-playing as a neo-Nazi at one extreme.

"Whiteness" is, of course, an Amerikan social-construction. The European settlers in Amerika were all immigrants, and most were assimilated into the National "white" identity at differing times. All of them climbed on the backs of Africans to achieve their precious "white" identity. Lots of "white" people still don't even perceive Italians as "white."

You'd be a "quadroon" in the old racist lingo. Here in Amerika, "whiteness" goes by the one drop rule, though with all the Zimmerman stuff, even that is beginning to become fuzzy. It's better to say Amerika is being transformed from "one drop" to "one drop of black." Latin America has a different, more fuzzy, standard for "whiteness." Amerika will probably be converted to that "system," as "white" people seek to make strategic alliances with light-skinned Latino compradors, and "octoroons" or whatever (the Blood of the Conqueror runs deep enough in their veins).

Decolonize The Left
9th September 2013, 15:29
The less "white" people are, the more there is a tendency to stress their "whiteness." This involves role-playing as a neo-Nazi at one extreme.

"Whiteness" is, of course, an Amerikan social-construction. The European settlers in Amerika were all immigrants, and most were assimilated into the National "white" identity at differing times. All of them climbed on the backs of Africans to achieve their precious "white" identity. Lots of "white" people still don't even perceive Italians as "white."

You'd be a "quadroon" in the old racist lingo. Here in Amerika, "whiteness" goes by the one drop rule, though with all the Zimmerman stuff, even that is beginning to become fuzzy. It's better to say Amerika is being transformed from "one drop" to "one drop of black." Latin America has a different, more fuzzy, standard for "whiteness." Amerika will probably be converted to that "system," as "white" people seek to make strategic alliances with light-skinned Latino compradors, and "octoroons" or whatever (the Blood of the Conqueror runs deep enough in their veins).

Dude what?

It already was 'one drop of black,' that what racism during slavery was premised upon after white slave masters raped enough black slaves to start making whole lots of babies which they didn't want to think of as 'white.'

Also, what's this shit about Latin America and the blood of the conqueror?

Comrade Sun Wukong
9th September 2013, 15:37
Dude what?

lmao


It already was 'one drop of black,' that what racism during slavery was premised upon after white slave masters raped enough black slaves to start making whole lots of babies which they didn't want to think of as 'white.'

lmao

So you think native people were perceived as "white"? lmao


Also, what's this shit about Latin America and the blood of the conqueror

lmao

Decolonize The Left
9th September 2013, 16:01
^ Just so you know, your posts are trolling and spam according to the rules of this forum. Unless you actually engage in discussion and stop posting one-liners followed by "lmao" you will be banned.