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Sea
10th August 2013, 02:37
It is known, for instance, that in Foundations of Leninism, Stalin writes:
It is known, for instance, that in Russia 54 per cent of all the workers were employed in enterprises employing over 500 workers each, whereas in so highly developed a country as the United States of America no more than 33 per cent of all the workers were employed in such enterprises..Is it not the case that evidence should be had to back this up? Leninism answers in the affirmative.....

Popular Front of Judea
10th August 2013, 05:25
So it is this assertion by Stalin that you demand to be fact checked? :grin:


It is known, for instance, that in Foundations of Leninism, Stalin writes:.Is it not the case that evidence should be had to back this up? Leninism answers in the affirmative.....

Sea
12th August 2013, 04:09
So it is this assertion by Stalin that you demand to be fact checked? :grin:Yeah, witty. Thanks for the contribution.

It was my understanding that this work was written before Stalin became a renegade. Additionally, it is a work meant to simply explain Lenin's contributions in brief, just as Lenin's State and Revolution is to the work of Marx and Engels.

By your judgement I trust you haven't read the work in question. Before you talk smack, please take the time to become familiar with what you're rambling about.



Also I was told that this statistic refers to workers that were employed in industry, and that in this context Stalin was accurate. I simply would like to look over the material that that line was derived from. Is that too much to ask? Some of us actually want to learn, you know. Don't just flop around with empty posts to watch your post count go up.

Popular Front of Judea
12th August 2013, 07:09
The work was published in 1932 as best as I can tell. (An American edition came out in August of 1933.) Make your own conclusions. As for as the provenance of the Russian data I leave to our resident Russian scholars.

The argument behind the assertion is doubtful if given a moments thought. Russia at the eve of the February revolution was overwhelmingly an underdeveloped peasant nation. So yes it's possible that 54% of the existing proletariat was working at enterprises of 500 workers and more. Many of them I would assume were working at arms factories and shipyards. So? Making a virtue out of backwardness I guess.

Here is the rest of the chapter so your fellow forum members can see the context of the quote: http://www.marxists.org/reference/archive/stalin/works/1924/foundations-leninism/ch05.htm


Yeah, witty. Thanks for the contribution.

It was my understanding that this work was written before Stalin became a renegade. Additionally, it is a work meant to simply explain Lenin's contributions in brief, just as Lenin's State and Revolution is to the work of Marx and Engels.

By your judgement I trust you haven't read the work in question. Before you talk smack, please take the time to become familiar with what you're rambling about.



Also I was told that this statistic refers to workers that were employed in industry, and that in this context Stalin was accurate. I simply would like to look over the material that that line was derived from. Is that too much to ask? Some of us actually want to learn, you know. Don't just flop around with empty posts to watch your post count go up.