So I don't generally talk about drugs

[The Douche]

cause I think drug culture, and especially weed culture is dumb as fuck.

But last night I rolled my first blunt ever, at 25 years old. And it was actually pretty nice, and I am pretty proud of myself, and I just wanted to brag somewhere, and this is the only place I can do that.

[The Garbage Disposal Unit]

Congrats.

Have you ever smoked a joint through a bong?

[The Douche]

Congrats.

Have you ever smoked a joint through a bong?

So, I had to google this to make sure it wasn't a thing. And then I see all these people talking about it, what is wrong with potheads?

[The Feral Underclass]

Mazel tov!

[Quail]

Have you ever smoked a joint through a bong?
Why would you do that? :confused:

[Art Vandelay]

Why would you do that? :confused:
That's what I was thinking. Owning a bong defeats the purpose of rolling a joint in the first place, unless you don't have a bowl or something.

[Sasha]

we used to smoke joints through self made bongs, if you dont have access to a heat resistant pipe but do have access to a pvc bottle and a ballpoint its a great way to get high if your 16...

[The Garbage Disposal Unit]

Well, it let's you get a big old bong rip, with two serious advantages:

1. You don't have to constantly relight it, and suck back all sorts of butane/whatever in the process.

2. It let's you smoke more efficiently, gauge how much is left easily, and avoid the necessity of "stirring up" the bowl to get at the shit at the bottom.

*Sigh* I kind of miss being a ridiculous pothead.

[Jimmie Higgins]

cause I think drug culture, and especially weed culture is dumb as fuck.

^omg this.

To be honest, if I had the money and time I'd roll and smoke several joints a day - as it is, I smoke weed like other people drink beer. Done for the day? Ok, I'm going to smoke and read comics or watch a movie.

The only real draw back that this has had in my life is sometimes having to associate with other potheads. Weed is recreation, it won't cure this or that or help you loose weight... Stop trying to make my one fucking vice moral, potheads!

I guess it's the same with beer and wine... People take it too seriously and I think that becomes boring hella quick.

[MarxSchmarx]

^omg this.

To be honest, if I had the money and time I'd roll and smoke several joints a day - as it is, I smoke weed like other people drink beer. Done for the day? Ok, I'm going to smoke and read comics or watch a movie.

The only real draw back that this has had in my life is sometimes having to associate with other potheads. Weed is recreation, it won't cure this or that or help you loose weight... Stop trying to make my one fucking vice moral, potheads!

I guess it's the same with beer and wine... People take it too seriously and I think that becomes boring hella quick.

In my experience people who drink hard liquor and actually beer don't see it as a virtue, in fact among alcoholics the "it makes you healthier" part is restricted almost entirely to people who drink wine.

And nobody who drinks seriously thinks it helps lose weight.

[Comrade Jacob]

Drugs are bad, M'kay.

[d3crypt]

I have only smoked weed once and i didnt even get high. :( Apparently you don't get high the first time.

[The Douche]

Well, it let's you get a big old bong rip, with two serious advantages:

1. You don't have to constantly relight it, and suck back all sorts of butane/whatever in the process.

2. It let's you smoke more efficiently, gauge how much is left easily, and avoid the necessity of "stirring up" the bowl to get at the shit at the bottom.

*Sigh* I kind of miss being a ridiculous pothead.

How is it more efficient? A joint is constantly burning, so the weed is constantly being burnt up, there is smoke coming of your joint that is not going in your lungs. With a bowl/bong you light and extinguish the weed as necessary. As for stirring it or whatever, I just pack my bong hits so that I will clear it in one go.


An unrelated sort of observation, that may not ring true for others:

Why do black people, especially black people in the hood only smoke blunts/joints or occasionally bongs, but never bowls? Obviously there are plenty of exceptions to this, but it is a general trend I have noticed ever since high school. And I still notice it today. I do recall asking a friend about this once and his response was that "pipes are for crack, not weed". Which I always found to be an interesting stigma.

[Jimmie Higgins]

Why do black people, especially black people in the hood only smoke blunts/joints or occasionally bongs, but never bowls? Obviously there are plenty of exceptions to this, but it is a general trend I have noticed ever since high school. And I still notice it today. I do recall asking a friend about this once and his response was that "pipes are for crack, not weed". Which I always found to be an interesting stigma.

Yeah could just be a preference, but it also could be that it's easier and ultimately less expensive to toss on the street or out a car window if you need to.

[The Garbage Disposal Unit]

I guess people don't smoke in public as much in the states as they do here in Canada, but, yeah, generally, smoking a pipe in public is more likely to attract negative attention than smoking a joint.

[Sasha]

Also just plainly tradition I think... Dutch people smoke almost exclusively joints, and almost always in a tabacco mix...why? I assume because marijuana culture started here with hash, not weed and it just stuck.

[RedBen]

I have only smoked weed once and i didnt even get high. :( Apparently you don't get high the first time.
must have been bad shit. i don't smoke weed anymore, hoping to be employed soon. i was more of a bowl guy myself... wastes less weed. congrats op though. i don't remember my first beer, i used to steal my dad's beer as young as 3(as i'm told) when he'd nod off drunk.

[RedBen]

Why do black people, especially black people in the hood only smoke blunts/joints or occasionally bongs, but never bowls? Obviously there are plenty of exceptions to this, but it is a general trend I have noticed ever since high school. And I still notice it today. I do recall asking a friend about this once and his response was that "pipes are for crack, not weed". Which I always found to be an interesting stigma.
cause swishers/blunts are cheap, plentiful, flavored and more readily available here in the inner city than rolling papers like joints and they don't have smoke shops in the cities. nowhere to buy a bowl. they also sell loose squares (unofficially) out here. i never got id-ed for liquor until after i was 21:D

[Rusty Shackleford]

blunts vs joints vs pipes vs bongs vs vaporizers are just cultural things.



and if someone is wanting to smoke it, they will smoke it. whatever way is readily available.


also, papers are available EVERYWHERE where cigarettes and rolling tobacco are sold. most convenience stores have $1-2 packs of zig zags and stuff. some actually sell 'blunt wrap' which is just a flavored cigarillo wrap without tobacco.


im not a big stoner, i smoke very occasionally and usually just a hit or 2.

[A Revolutionary Tool]

We smoke blunts out of bongs only when it gets down to the end of it. That way you're not burning your nose/eyes/fingers trying to hit it and you still get a couple good bong rips.

I was once talking to a guy at a smoke shop about all the cool pipes and I point to one and he looks at me weird and says "dude that looks like a dick". At which point you look around and realize basically all of them do. I still smoke out of my pipe, I don't give a fuck, but some people actually have that reaction. But sometimes a pipe is just a pipe you know.

[Quail]

Yeah, pipes do look a little bit phallic. Not sure why that would bother anyone, unless they were a homophobe. The slightly immature part of me does find it somewhat amusing though.

[The Douche]

I totally understand not smoking a bowl in public, do white people do that? Who carries a bowl? That would be asking for trouble.

And around my town they sell bowls in gas stations, not just head shops, I figured that was pretty common, shit, they even sell crack pipes at the gas station here.

[Jimmie Higgins]

Yeah, pipes do look a little bit phallic. Not sure why that would bother anyone, unless they were a homophobe. The slightly immature part of me does find it somewhat amusing though.One of my roommates years ago did a little green home-entrepenuing and had a penis-pipe and made all her macho customers smoke out of it.

[Art Vandelay]

I totally understand not smoking a bowl in public, do white people do that? Who carries a bowl? That would be asking for trouble.

And around my town they sell bowls in gas stations, not just head shops, I figured that was pretty common, shit, they even sell crack pipes at the gas station here.

I can remember walking around with friends during lunch break back in HS and smoking bowls, although that was probably pretty dumb of us.

[The Feral Underclass]

This is exactly what happens when I smoke weed nowadays...

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[A Revolutionary Tool]

I totally understand not smoking a bowl in public, do white people do that? Who carries a bowl? That would be asking for trouble.

And around my town they sell bowls in gas stations, not just head shops, I figured that was pretty common, shit, they even sell crack pipes at the gas station here.

Well I've seen black people smoke bowls in public too...

[A Revolutionary Tool]

Yeah, pipes do look a little bit phallic. Not sure why that would bother anyone, unless they were a homophobe. The slightly immature part of me does find it somewhat amusing though.
Right, giving oral sex is the last thing on my mind when hitting the pipe(at least to guys), I don't ever look at it like that. The fact that someone is homophobic to the point they won't get a pipe is just silly.

[Goblin]

They only sell hash were i live. Well, at least the street dealers do. If i had some contacts i could probably score some marijuana. There is this pub i know about, it´s actually kind off infamous here in Oslo, where the owners actually sell weed. It´s really pricey though.

[Tifosi]

I watched some mates snort Coke for the first time this weekend while I ate noodles. Surreal :unsure:

[Jimmie Higgins]

I watched some mates snort Coke for the first time this weekend while I ate noodles. Surreal :unsure:I'd imagine this or hardcore lay on the floor narcotics would be the most boring drugs to watch other people do overall (maybe K too, but I haven't been around people when they did this). Weed can go either way - people can be zoned out and boring or giddy and talkative and entertaining. Drunk people can be great or terrible company and probably both at different points.

I've really enjoyed being siober around people on psychadellics though - however I think it can be really annoying if a sober person who has never tripped is around. "Is this tripping you out? What about this? What are you feeling now? Are you hallucinating? Are you tripping out now? What do you see?"

[Bostana]

I know what you mean. Teenage stoners who have no credibility make the whole legalize pot thing look bad

[The Douche]

I watched some mates snort Coke for the first time this weekend while I ate noodles. Surreal :unsure:

FUCK, being around people on coke when you're not, that shit sucks.

[The Garbage Disposal Unit]

Once, a poster from this forum did a bunch of coke and tried to pick a fight with me. We were also wasted, and, anyway, it was fine.

Most boring party drugs: benzos, for sure.

[Quail]

Are benzos really a "party" drug? :confused: When I think of crazy partying, sedatives aren't the fist thing that tends to come to mind.

[RedBen]

I watched some mates snort Coke for the first time this weekend while I ate noodles. Surreal :unsure:
i'd stay far away from that stuff, it doesn't turn out well. i used it as a teenager, i steer clear of it now.

[The Douche]

i'd stay far away from that stuff, it doesn't turn out well. i used it as a teenager, i steer clear of it now.

Yeah this is true, I don't know anybody that I ever think "wow, that person is way cooler when they have a little coke".

[synthesis]

What about, like, every comedian ever who's done stand-up?

[L.A.P.]

I smoke weed often but I've grown to really really dislike young male potheads. In my last year of high school, I've gotten over the whole "Yeah! 420 smoke weed everyday man" and keep it relatively low-key that I smoke at all. I'd rather just be friends with non-smokers and smoke a small bowl when I get home.



And around my town they sell bowls in gas stations, not just head shops, I figured that was pretty common, shit, they even sell crack pipes at the gas station here.

http://www.revleft.com/vb/showpost.php?p=2597205&postcount=152

[The Garbage Disposal Unit]

Yeah this is true, I don't know anybody that I ever think "wow, that person is way cooler when they have a little coke".

Žižek!

[Tifosi]

FUCK, being around people on coke when you're not, that shit sucks.

Well after the noodles I was drinking Buckfast and Absinthe (a really stupid mix :blushing:) so it wasn't to bad.

What was weird is I have known these people for years and when I smoked they wouldn't touch the stuff. No they are doing Coke... what?

[Ravachol]

Coke is (usually) for posh law students who wanna pretend they're having a "good time" or gym guido's with an inferiority complex. Don't be one of those people, just use speed or mdma or whatever.

[Sasha]

there is a time and a place for coke

[Bostana]

there is a time and a place for coke

And it's called college

[Sasha]

I was going to say bondage club..

[RedBen]

there is a time and a place for coke
i have seen footage of the stuff being made, nothing i ever want to introduce to my body again. the use of chemicals is insane....

[Trap Queen Voxxy]

cause swishers/blunts are cheap, plentiful, flavored and more readily available here in the inner city than rolling papers like joints and they don't have smoke shops in the cities. nowhere to buy a bowl. they also sell loose squares (unofficially) out here. i never got id-ed for liquor until after i was 21:D

This seems silly but could be true in some cities. In my city it's essentially the same way however believe it or not, it's easier to find cheap bowels at the unimarts and corner stores than it is to find stores that'll sell loosies. I can think of like 4 stores I can buy at however as to the OQ, I've often wondered this myself. I'll smoke out of anything however me personally I usually just make a quick tin foil bowel. I hate having paraphenalia because I never know what's going to happen next but I also hate joints and never really smoke blunts by myself unless I'm in the mood. Due to the fact that I generally always smoke loud it works pretty well. This is borrowed from dope I think, idk, I like smoking drugs from foil. As for coke, don't get me wrong, I love coke and somewhat disagree with others here however my drug of choice, now and forever, is dat white pony. Saddle me up for nodville anytime.

[The Douche]

This seems silly but could be true in some cities. In my city it's essentially the same way however believe it or not, it's easier to find cheap bowels at the unimarts and corner stores than it is to find stores that'll sell loosies. I can think of like 4 stores I can buy at however as to the OQ, I've often wondered this myself. I'll smoke out of anything however me personally I usually just make a quick tin foil bowel. I hate having paraphenalia because I never know what's going to happen next but I also hate joints and never really smoke blunts by myself unless I'm in the mood. Due to the fact that I generally always smoke loud it works pretty well. This is borrowed from dope I think, idk, I like smoking drugs from foil. As for coke, don't get me wrong, I love coke and somewhat disagree with others here however my drug of choice, now and forever, is dat white pony. Saddle me up for nodville anytime.

Dude, fuck smoking from foil, isn't that shit real bad for you?

[Trap Queen Voxxy]

Dude, fuck smoking from foil, isn't that shit real bad for you?

Not that I'm aware of, seems pretty elementarily kosher to me dear Waston.

[The Douche]

Not that I'm aware of, seems pretty elementarily kosher to me dear Waston.

I can't be fucked to google it or anything, but, growing up, everybody was always sketched out by any metal pieces, including the cheap metal ones from the corner store. I would imagine that you're inhaling some shit from the shitty pot metal/foil.

I still won't smoke from a metal piece. (unless, thats all there is, then fuck it, poke some holes in a beer can, I don't care)

[Trap Queen Voxxy]

I can't be fucked to google it or anything, but, growing up, everybody was always sketched out by any metal pieces, including the cheap metal ones from the corner store. I would imagine that you're inhaling some shit from the shitty pot metal/foil.

I still won't smoke from a metal piece. (unless, thats all there is, then fuck it, poke some holes in a beer can, I don't care)

That's where we differ, I prefer to smoke from metal, as it's good for virtually any drug but specifically in regards to weed tho, I hate glass and think they're over-priced and easily broken albeit sometimes really badass and or cute glass work. Wood seems worse, health wise to me as well, so there's that (I do have several wooden briar pipes tho), so idk, I'm opposite, always seemed the safest, cheapest, most convienant and durable way, bowel wise for weed.

[Brandon's Impotent Rage]

....I'm seriously craving some weed right about now.

[Leftsolidarity]

This is just my personal observation as to the cultural differences between people smoking and why black folks tend to smoke joints/blunts more often then out of pieces. Like others have said, it's cheap to grab some swishers and either the smoke shops aren't around or are fairly expensive. Also, at least in my area, it's much more of a group activity (and more likely to be outside and with random people) than it usually is with white folks so 1) you're not passing around your piece where it's likely to get broken/stolen/noticed 2) you fit a lot more weed in a blunt than anything else so everyone can throw in to the blunt and everyone can get high 3) fuck passing lighters

I'm sure other people have said the same basic thing but this has actually come up in conversation a number of times recently when I've been smoking with random folks so I thought I'd chime in.

[The Douche]

This is just my personal observation as to the cultural differences between people smoking and why black folks tend to smoke joints/blunts more often then out of pieces. Like others have said, it's cheap to grab some swishers and either the smoke shops aren't around or are fairly expensive. Also, at least in my area, it's much more of a group activity (and more likely to be outside and with random people) than it usually is with white folks so 1) you're not passing around your piece where it's likely to get broken/stolen/noticed 2) you fit a lot more weed in a blunt than anything else so everyone can throw in to the blunt and everyone can get high 3) fuck passing lighters

I'm sure other people have said the same basic thing but this has actually come up in conversation a number of times recently when I've been smoking with random folks so I thought I'd chime in.

I think the communal/outdoor aspect has a lot to do with it, and I never noticed that before, but it rings true in my experience as well.

I get so jealous when I'm out mowing the lawn and I can see/smell my neighbor smoking a blunt, I guess I should just go ask for a hit though, hahahaha.

[synthesis]

I'm sure it's fine every now and then, but you don't wanna be "that guy" who always pops up whenever someone sparks up. It can take awhile to shed the label of a "mooch." Also, it's kinda weird/funny to me that people are so intrigued by how black people smoke weed. Not saying it's racist, just amusing.

[Leftsolidarity]

I'm sure it's fine every now and then, but you don't wanna be "that guy" who always pops up whenever someone sparks up. It can take awhile to shed the label of a "mooch." Also, it's kinda weird/funny to me that people are so intrigued by how black people smoke weed. Not saying it's racist, just amusing.

I wouldn't say it's particularly how black people smoke weed but how differently other groups and cultures smoke. It's actually kind of amusing when I ride the city bus (I'm usually really high and apparently smell like weed) cuz I'm usually one of the only, if not the only, white folk on there. I almost always get a billion questions from the black folks that smoke on the bus about how I smoke and what kind of weed I smoke. I think it's kind of natural to be curious.

[synthesis]

however my drug of choice, now and forever, is dat white pony. Saddle me up for nodville anytime.

Funny, out here on the West Coast it's strictly black tar, all coming from Mexico. I don't think anyone I know has even seen it white. Do you know which countries it tends to come from where you live?

[The Douche]

I wouldn't say it's particularly how black people smoke weed but how differently other groups and cultures smoke. It's actually kind of amusing when I ride the city bus (I'm usually really high and apparently smell like weed) cuz I'm usually one of the only, if not the only, white folk on there. I almost always get a billion questions from the black folks that smoke on the bus about how I smoke and what kind of weed I smoke. I think it's kind of natural to be curious.

Yeah, I mean, its just a cultural thing. I know for sure that there are a ton of white people who fit my description of black people's weed smoking habits cause they grew up with black people, and a ton of black people with what I would see as white people's smoking habits cause they grew up in the suburbs or whatever.


Like, when I was in Oakland I was really bugged out by the way people just smoked weed everywhere, you couldn't get away with that shit where I'm from, but while I was out there, some guy walked out of a bar and asked to borrow my lighter while I was having a cigarette. I was a little discomforted to see he was using it to light a blunt in the middle of downtown. But some cops on a foot patrol just walked right on by, and the bar's doorman just asked him to move a few steps away from the door, and the guy shared his weed with me and my friend as well.



Another thing I thought of regarding the differences in weed smoking customs, is that I generally prefer to buy high grade weed, and so I don't like to "waste" it in a blunt, but whenever I end up with mids my first thought is "I wish I had a blunt". I definitely like smoking from a blunt, and I feel like I get higher, but I think thats just my nostalgia for my youth when I used to smoke them more regularly (probably a consequence of not being able to smoke at home).

[A Revolutionary Tool]

In a social setting blunts/joints are a lot better. You get a good circle going with a blunt or a couple joints and you get a ton of hits and you don't have to keep repacking the bowl or anything. Get at least 4 people together to throw down like $5 each and get two grams for a B-Legit and you're set. If its just like a few people at a friends house playing games or jamming we usually all just bring our bongs though, smoke at your own pace don't have to worry about passing or anything. Passing a bong around can get annoying.

[Leftsolidarity]

Another thing I thought of regarding the differences in weed smoking customs, is that I generally prefer to buy high grade weed, and so I don't like to "waste" it in a blunt, but whenever I end up with mids my first thought is "I wish I had a blunt". I definitely like smoking from a blunt, and I feel like I get higher, but I think thats just my nostalgia for my youth when I used to smoke them more regularly (probably a consequence of not being able to smoke at home).

I never buy high grade, I only buy shwag. I get that they are different highs (kinda) but I've always felt like dro is a waste of money for how often I smoke and I'm usually stoned off my ass anyways. I usually get a quarter of shwag and it can last me a week or so but if I used that money to buy dro itd probably only last 2-3 days at most.

I don't think that's your nostalgia, I think blunts actually do get you higher since 1) you have a lot of weed in there 2) the paper is rough on your lungs so you're gonna cough more and absorb more of it into your lungs in the process

My good buddy usually has a lovely amount of weed in which there can't be a shortage no matter how much we smoke so he always has me bring over some swishers and we just sit and smoke blunts all the time. It's awesome cuz not many other people I know roll blunts often and I don't have that kinda money.

[Art Vandelay]

I don't see how a blunt/joint could ever hit harder then a bong, its just a really inefficient way of getting high cause its always burning. Also I'm not sure how smoking shwag would save you money, when if you get some good kush you'll only need about 1/4 of the same amount to get stoned. Regardless you all need to come up to Canada, cause we got the best weed. :cool:

[Leftsolidarity]

I don't see how a blunt/joint could ever hit harder then a bong, its just a really inefficient way of getting high cause its always burning. Also I'm not sure how smoking shwag would save you money, when if you get some good kush you'll only need about 1/4 of the same amount to get stoned. Regardless you all need to come up to Canada, cause we got the best weed. :cool:

I think a bong still gets you higher than a blunt, I meant compared to a bowl or joint. I think the efficiency depends cuz yeah it's always burning so by yourself it's wasting a lot but if you're passing it, it's only the tip that is burning unlike if you're passing a bowl the whole thing might get roasted and might still be rolling while you're passing it.

I guess it would depend on the person cuz even though I smoke a lot my tolerance is still usually pretty low so I can hit a bowl of shwag a couple times and still get high. I can basically smoke shwag like other people smoke dro.

[Bea Arthur]

This seems silly but could be true in some cities. In my city it's essentially the same way however believe it or not, it's easier to find cheap bowels at the unimarts and corner stores than it is to find stores that'll sell loosies. I can think of like 4 stores I can buy at however as to the OQ, I've often wondered this myself. I'll smoke out of anything however me personally I usually just make a quick tin foil bowel. I hate having paraphenalia because I never know what's going to happen next but I also hate joints and never really smoke blunts by myself unless I'm in the mood. Due to the fact that I generally always smoke loud it works pretty well. This is borrowed from dope I think, idk, I like smoking drugs from foil. As for coke, don't get me wrong, I love coke and somewhat disagree with others here however my drug of choice, now and forever, is dat white pony. Saddle me up for nodville anytime.

You say that. Then one day you will try meth. Nothing quite like it.

[Sasha]

fascinating read: http://www.forbes.com/sites/andygreenberg/2013/08/14/meet-the-dread-pirate-roberts-the-man-behind-booming-black-market-drug-website-silk-road/

[synthesis]

I think you'd have to be pretty desperate to buy anything from the Silk Road. It's been a long time since I looked at it, but pretty much everything I saw was at least four times the price that any sane person would pay for whatever it is. Maybe supply and demand has driven the price down since then; I don't really care enough to check.

[The Douche]

I think you'd have to be pretty desperate to buy anything from the Silk Road. It's been a long time since I looked at it, but pretty much everything I saw was at least four times the price that any sane person would pay for whatever it is. Maybe supply and demand has driven the price down since then; I don't really care enough to check.

I suppose you pay for the "convenience". (i.e. if you don't know where to get it, you can always get it there)

[Leftsolidarity]

It might be irrational but I don't trust it or anything like it. I feel like no matter how good they think their security is, eventually it will be broken and busted.

[The Douche]

It might be irrational but I don't trust it or anything like it. I feel like no matter how good they think their security is, eventually it will be broken and busted.

I dunno, why's the DEA gonna get all gung-ho on me buying a quarter?


I wouldn't buy guns or fake IDs on there, but yeah...

[Art Vandelay]

I dunno, why's the DEA gonna get all gung-ho on me buying a quarter?


I wouldn't buy guns or fake IDs on there, but yeah...

Yeah in all honesty, I've never ordered pot over the internet (let alone anything else) but I don't see why they would be so concerned over people buying personal use over the net. Are they really going to put together some sort of operation to bust a guy with a quarter-half.

[Trap Queen Voxxy]

Funny, out here on the West Coast it's strictly black tar, all coming from Mexico. I don't think anyone I know has even seen it white. Do you know which countries it tends to come from where you live?

Not really, no but I know that's the difference between east and west, you guys have balloons and black tar (which I enjoyed while visiting some friends, very nice) and we have stamps and china white. It all depends out here whom you get it from but generally, the dope that's 'fire' is either either white, off white or light brown.

[synthesis]

Dude, fuck smoking from foil, isn't that shit real bad for you?

From what I understand, I believe you're confusing two different practices. I think it has to do with where the smoke is coming from. Smoking weed out of a tin can is really bad for you, but putting stuff on foil then lighting it from underneath and inhaling the smoke through a straw or pen or whatever is basically the same concept as a Volcano with weed. (Meaning, you're applying heat to the surface that the substance is on - indirectly - not to the substance itself - directly.)


Not really, no but I know that's the difference between east and west, you guys have balloons and black tar (which I enjoyed while visiting some friends, very nice) and we have stamps and china white. It all depends out here whom you get it from but generally, the dope that's 'fire' is either either white, off white or light brown.

What's the shitty stuff look like?

[Trap Queen Voxxy]

From what I understand, I believe you're confusing two different practices. I think it has to do with where the smoke is coming from. Smoking weed out of a tin can is really bad for you, but putting stuff on foil then lighting it from underneath and inhaling the smoke through a straw or pen or whatever is basically the same concept as a Volcano with weed. (Meaning, you're applying heat to the surface that the substance is on - indirectly - not to the substance itself - directly.)



What's the shitty stuff look like?

I swear to God, I once was given a b that looked legit like cat litter; grey, weak, clumpy, hella stepped on, etc. But that was the worst I've personally seen, but usually always brown, light brown or white however, you tell by taste, how it burns on foil and so on if it's been cut and how much. People be mad shisty here, you never really know.

[The Douche]

Hey, can you guys not talk about H in here, it has fucked up the lives of a lot of my friends and it is kind of upsetting to me.

[The Garbage Disposal Unit]

Yeah. Fuck death drugs.

[synthesis]

I'm fine with dropping that particular conversation, both because it's cmoney's thread and because he asked nicely, but I just want to say that there's nothing intrinsically wrong with heroin, at least when compared to other painkillers. There are legal prescription medications much, much stronger than heroin, even pure heroin. Even then, the vast majority - something like 90% - of deaths resulting from prescription painkiller use are solely a result of the ridiculous damage that extended use of acetaminophen (Tylenol) does to the liver, not because of the opiate itself.

The only problems specific to heroin are strictly a result of its illegality. For example, it is well known that heroin overdoses occur primarily because addicts will take their usual amount of what turns out to be a different batch, which they don't realize is stronger than what they're used to. And if you get started on heroin, you can't just go to your doctor and have your insurance pay for it, or even get it at a reasonable price from your pharmacy if you don't have insurance, which leads to people starting to base their whole lives around obtaining it, resulting in addicts often turning to crime and alienating friends and family. A lot of people get started simply because heroin is usually cheaper than buying prescription pills on the street.

There are a lot of functioning opiate addicts out there; one treatment facility's website stated, correctly in my opinion, that nobody is a drug addict until they start having problems obtaining their substance of choice. This is, again, largely a problem with heroin being illegal, harshly so, and unregulated. In the UK, conversely, heroin is often given to patients during palliative care instead of morphine because it's more fat soluble and, due to the lower dosage required, has fewer side effects.

That said, I also have a number of friends who have died or are now homeless because of heroin. But it's a street drug, which forces users to adapt and integrate into street culture, and that will fuck up most anyone's life.

I'm only saying this because I think a lot of people have misconceptions about the actual problems with heroin. I would say the same thing about methamphetamine - the pure and regulated form of which is currently being prescribed to children (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Methamphetamine_in_the_United_States#Legal) to treat ADHD and obesity - and I've never done meth in my life, nor have I wanted to, nor do I associate with anyone who does it. The same principal applies: all the problems associated with its illegal use are entirely a result of its illegality. North America is so far behind (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Heroin_maintenance) in its attitudes about opiate use and treatment of heroin addicts, it's unconscionable.

[Flying Purple People Eater]

I totally understand not smoking a bowl in public, do white people do that? Who carries a bowl? That would be asking for trouble.


Hello there completely irrelevant and out of the blue denomination.

Plenty of people carry bongs around - ethnicity notwithstanding. I seriously don't know where you got that from.

[Decolonize The Left]

Ah shit a weed thread and I missed the good part! Anyhow, congrats to ze douche for rolling up a blunt. Blunts are sweet. I'll throw in my two cents having smoked a lot of weed in my time.

Blunts and bongs are what real stoners use. Blunts are like mega-joints; Bongs are like mega-pipes. The more you smoke the more weed you need to get high so it makes perfect sense that real stoners gravitate to these. I have only met a select few all-day-smoking-potheads who smoke out of a piece or a joint.

Bongs/pipes are more efficient then blunts/joints but require more initial capital and more upkeep. They are also more difficult to carry and more suspicious. But they are more efficient and this is because you burn less of the actual weed and get more of the actual smoke.

I speak from experience however I mostly smoked spliffs (weed+tobacco rolled up in a joint). This was because I was poor and couldn't afford to use up that much weed when I was smoking 3+ times a day.

Oh, and fuck other drugs except acid. Done many, most suck.

[Rafiq]

I despise weed culture. Weed itself is o.k. but honestly it's not really a social drug and I find it pretty pointless. Don't get what the hype is all about in all honesty, being high off of it just makes me lazy and I don't like the kind of stupid feeling I get from it (as opposed to alchohol). It's like meh.

[PC LOAD LETTER]

It might be irrational but I don't trust it or anything like it. I feel like no matter how good they think their security is, eventually it will be broken and busted.
As long as you properly use public-key cryptography in your messages between you and the guys selling weed on SilkRoad, you'll be completely safe even if the SilkRoad server(s) is(are) found and seized. 4096-bit RSA key is pretty much "uncrackable" at the moment and RSA has been around since the 70s. The "$5 wrench" encryption cracking algorithm (http://xkcd.com/538/) only works if you / the seller can be found. Even if the seller is found somehow through like a sting operation or something (by doing something dumb like using his real return address rather than a physically-real-but-not-his-or-in-any-way-connected-to-him return address) they probably won't bother trying to find a customer buying a $70 quarter of weed, they just want the distributor.



With the way public-key cryptography works, in the event of a sting against the seller they'd be able to decrypt the messages sent to the seller, but not sent by the seller (they'd need the decryption keys of the recipients for that). And the recipients should be using drop addresses, anyways.


There's ways of using encrypted containers on a hard drive that work on the basis of plausible deniability in that they're indistinguishable from random data on the hard drive, and store all transaction-related info in that after the email is decrypted, but your seller would need to really know what they're doing instead of just-learning-how-to-use-encryption-to-sell-drugs-on-the-internet.

[The Garbage Disposal Unit]

A $70 quarter?
Fuck, the United $nakes of Amerikkka is rough.

[PC LOAD LETTER]

A $70 quarter?
Fuck, the United $nakes of Amerikkka is rough.
That's a decent (but not amazing) price down here. The average joe with shitty connects pays $100-120

[Art Vandelay]

A $70 quarter?
Fuck, the United $nakes of Amerikkka is rough.

What do you pay in Quebec?

[The Douche]

Hello there completely irrelevant and out of the blue denomination.

Plenty of people carry bongs around - ethnicity notwithstanding. I seriously don't know where you got that from.

Do you really want to be "the upset white guy"?

[Leftsolidarity]

Fuck that, I pay $20.

[PC LOAD LETTER]

Fuck that, I pay $20.
I mean, I pay $20 a quarter for mids (or $25 if they were being dicks), but I can't really find mids anymore. The $70 quarters are for supercalifragilistikexpialidanktious stuff.

[Sinister Intents]

I have only smoked weed once and i didnt even get high. :( Apparently you don't get high the first time.

I got fucked up the first time I got high! :-)

[synthesis]

I don't see how a blunt/joint could ever hit harder then a bong, its just a really inefficient way of getting high cause its always burning. Also I'm not sure how smoking shwag would save you money, when if you get some good kush you'll only need about 1/4 of the same amount to get stoned. Regardless you all need to come up to Canada, cause we got the best weed. :cool:

I missed this. I used to think that rolling up weed would obviously always be more wasteful than smoking it out of some sort of bowl, for the same reason.

But now I don't think that's the case at all. The thing about blunts and joints is that when you get to the second half, the weed inside is so coated with the resin from the first half (which would normally just go into the pipe/bong itself) that it burns so much slower and is therefore easier to extract the maximum amount of THC from the weed in the blunt, joint, whatever.

Bongs and pipes, for me, are strictly for loading single-hit bowls, so you're always getting the first hit and therefore the best, most pleasant taste. Or at least that was the case when I smoked regularly. Now, on the rare occasion that I smoke weed, I don't really put a lot of thought into it; it's all pretty much the same when you only smoke once or twice a month.