View Full Version : Scaring statistics!
M.L
12th January 2004, 21:07
The 500 biggest companies control 70% of the world market.
90% of the worlds HIV problems exists in the devoloping countries. 90% of the world resources aginst HIV is being invested for the I-countries.
20% of the worlds total population owns 86% of the worlds resources.
USA alone is the cause of 25% of the worlds carbon dioxide discharge but they only have 5% of the world population.
A cow whitin EU get around 2,5$ a day in support that is much more then over 50% of the worlds population has.
How is this possible?
ComradeRobertRiley
12th January 2004, 21:35
capitalism
M.L
12th January 2004, 22:04
straight thru.....the world must understand that this consumers society that we are living in is not gonna hold! We can't no longer balance on the edge of what our world can take.
We can't keep living in luxery and use the devoloping countries resources whitout them getting anything back for it.
ComradeRobertRiley
12th January 2004, 22:11
We are consumers.
Do we need fancy cars and leather sofa's? no
we are consumers.
We are slaves to the system.
What we own, owns us.
Do we need a big fuckin tele?
Is it essential to our survival?
We are all slaves.
We're not concerned about starvation or how many people died today.
What concerns me is celebratey magazines and whos name is on my underwear and how many channels i have for the tele.
M.L
12th January 2004, 22:30
Every discussion is about economy. Those have to stop. What diffrence does the economy do to us if we don't have a world to live on in the future?
Big political changes is of most importance if we are to do something about the environment issues.
The capitalistic companies either has to take responsibility, which won't happen, or else they have to be liquidated!
They are so greedy so they won't lower the prices for medicine to the devoloping countries for example.
Christopher
13th January 2004, 17:01
I am unsure if capitalism alone is responsible for the problems. It could easily have enabled a spiritually corrupt people to dominate but that doesn't make the concept of capitalism bad. It makes the people abusing it look deeply confused.
I am a stickler for semantics. Only because if we allow ourselves to bend or augment the meanings of words, soon, we will have a very difficult time communicating. The western world has a SPIRITUAL problem. We are living for the wrong reasons and our living is destructive to our lives and all other life.
I think that another word needs to be added to capitalism to make it conform to the actuality. I will provide some examples of how the various social systems have succumbed to distortions and what the true label might be;
What the US now practices.
Degenerative Capitalism
What Communism has become
Dominant Communism
What Socialism has become
Social isolationism
The examples are of course not absolute and are subject to error and interpretation. Underlying all of them is an attempt to offcialize a spiritual perspective. Examples;
In the US economic power is more important than anything and spirituality is what you think it is.
In communist countries the agreement take s a spiritual concept and converts it into a social agreement and forces it upon the people.
Socialist countries pragmatically incorporate that spiritual agreement and assign it to the social system.
Of the 3, socialism seems the closest to accomplishing its goal. It may be possible to practice spiritual capitalism which could provide exactly the outcome capitalists erroneously assigned to the capitalist system from history. This would require a spiritual mandate voluntarily accepted by the people in a communistic way forcing the society to democratically force its governmental system to operate socialistic ally. The advantage here would be the individual possibility of using ones own mental and physical resource to accumulate economic power. It would of course be UN AMERICAN to use the power in ANY way that damaged ANY life.
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